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Community => The Lounge => Topic started by: Dynamic Dragon on March 25, 2013, 08:37:17 pm
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...Is right twice a day.
As you can probably guess, this thread is her so people can discuss stances and opinions you agree with taken by people you disagree with or dislike. For example, I don't like Dick Cheney, but I do like how he supports gay marriage.
Got anything else like that? Discuss it here!
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Stephen Harper.
He's the worst thing to happen to Canada in my lifetime, but he did kill the bloated parliamentary pensions--and split it off from an omnibus budget bill so that MPs could vote on it quickly, and vote yes on it instead of having to appear to oppose it as part of a larger bill (because nobody pays attention to the amendments opposition parties introduce).
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A guy in my class who is normally a homophobic pro-bullying asshole.
He was the only one who stood up for the Steubenville rape victim when we talked about it in class. He also was the only one with an understanding of rape (Being drunk does not invite sex, a woman having lots of sex partners before is not consent to everyone).
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Justice John Roberts.
He's a douche who gave us Citizens United, but he also upheld Obamacare.
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The Daily Telegraph. They're a Liberal-National Party shill, so naturally they're rarely agreeable. However, recently they tore strips out of Stephen Conroy for a general raging cuntbiscuit, so I give them very hearty props for that.
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Bush. At minimum, he had a good plan for immigration. Too bad he never got to implement it.
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During Newt Gingrich's campaign, he said it would be a good idea to put school students in charge of keeping their schools clean. Newt being Newt, everyone pretty much assumed that this was either to A) punish minorities/poor people or B) get rid of janitorial positions in public schools. However, having seen the condition many public schools are in (I want to a charter, to it was a bit different), and working a similar job, I think making everyone have to clean the colossal messes that occur in places used by hundreds, if not thousands, of people, on a daily basis might make them appreciate how much work goes into keeping such places clean. I think more people would be inclined to treat people with shitty jobs better if they knew how bad said jobs were first hand, and be more respectful of public places if they knew what went into making them look nice.
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During Newt Gingrich's campaign, he said it would be a good idea to put school students in charge of keeping their schools clean. Newt being Newt, everyone pretty much assumed that this was either to A) punish minorities/poor people or B) get rid of janitorial positions in public schools. However, having seen the condition many public schools are in (I want to a charter, to it was a bit different), and working a similar job, I think making everyone have to clean the colossal messes that occur in places used by hundreds, if not thousands, of people, on a daily basis might make them appreciate how much work goes into keeping such places clean. I think more people would be inclined to treat people with shitty jobs better if they knew how bad said jobs were first hand, and be more respectful of public places if they knew what went into making them look nice.
Hell, I think that schools would do a lot better if they tried to actually instill respect into their students instead of just trying to avoid liability/angry parents and get their kids out of there with as few rough patches as possible. It's worse because the constant fear of upsetting parents (or shilling to the wealthy ones) or being sued means that they end up aggravating the problem, teaching (ho ho) that it's perfectly fine to be a cunt as long as you can threaten a lawsuit when something doesn't go your way, or use your parents' influence to get privileges.
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I think Rush Limbaugh is one of the biggest assholes on the air. But this (http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=92170) might be an unfortunate case of Jerkass Has a Point (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/JerkassHasAPoint). The "Think of the Children" tactics are not based on any kind of reason, they're based on guilt, ie: support this or you're a monster. Even though someone could be against gun control, because they don't think it's a practical solution. I hear the same shit from people defending the TSA abuse. If you don't agree with them, you want the terrorists to win, even though the terrorists could still find ways around the TSA.
Of course, Rush unsurprisingly comes across as a douche supreme, and he may be exaggerating the extent to which the Liberals do this, but he does have a point.
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Michelle Malkin. I'm no fan of hers, but I recently read her book Unhinged, which pointed out examples of Liberals being rude, irrational, hateful, insane, violent, paranoid, bigoted, or just plain mean. While some of the examples she gives might be out of context, she does well at pointing out double standards and showing that being a jerk isn't confined to one color of the political spectrum.
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I may hate Chalton Heston, but he says he doesn't do politically correct. I concur that political correctness is stupid.
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Pat Robertson's rejection of a Young Earth view was surprising enough, but apparently David J. Stewart, a complete nutjob who's rantings litter the FSTDT mainpage, isn't a Young Earth Creationist either. (http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/Evolution%20Hoax/young_earth_view_harmful.htm)
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John Hagee. While he's a homophobe who thinks religion should have more place in the government, he also wrote a book called Final Dawn Over Jerusalem where he eloquently refutes anti-semitism. He especially points out how stupid it is for Christians to hate Jews.
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Stephen Harper again--this time, for how he handled the same-sex marriage issue way back when he first became Prime Minister.
In the previous Parliament, the Liberals introduced a bill to legalize it, but because of how it was introduced, every Cabinet Minister was forced to vote in favour of it (and a few quit Cabinet over it), and I personally don't like seeing MPs whipped when it comes to matters of conscience. Harper did attack the bill because the Bloc voted overwhelmingly in favour of it (saying that it was illegitimate because a majority of federalist MPs voted against it), and he promised that, if elected, he would bring a motion asking the House if they wanted to reopen the debate, and that none of his MPs would be whipped. (The NDP did whip its MPs for all such votes and kicked out one MP over it.)
And he did exactly that. The motion did not carry (though he voted in favour) and the issue hasn't been raised (at least not seriously--I don't follow these things that closely) in the House since.
His handling of the abortion issue, on the other hand--another debate he promised to leave closed--has involved effectively silencing his MPs who want to speak about it, and again, I dislike that sort of muzzling. (See Mark Warawa.) But the one time something close to it (a motion to form a special committee to study when life begins) came before the House, he voted against it.
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Ron Paul.
I don't agree with much of his politics but every now and then he does have smart ideas. Reading through his political positions is pretty much "no, no, yes, NOOO!, yes, maybe, no,..."
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Ron Paul.
I don't agree with much of his politics but every now and then he does have smart ideas. Reading through his political positions is pretty much "no, no, yes, NOOO!, yes, maybe, no,..."
Ron Paul is probably the poster child for this. Rand is too, to a lesser extent. He's right about the drone strike policy and the Patriot Act, but goes way off the deep end on many other issues.
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Bill O'Reilly. He may say some incredibly dumb things, but I cheered when he defended JC Penny's use of Ellen as a spokeswoman.
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Bill O'Reilly. He may say some incredibly dumb things, but I cheered when he defended JC Penny's use of Ellen as a spokeswoman.
You mean like "Tides, You can't explain it"
Ron Paul.
I don't agree with much of his politics but every now and then he does have smart ideas. Reading through his political positions is pretty much "no, no, yes, NOOO!, yes, maybe, no,..."
Ron Paul is probably the poster child for this. Rand is too, to a lesser extent. He's right about the drone strike policy and the Patriot Act, but goes way off the deep end on many other issues.
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Dan Quayle. For all the mockery he got for criticizing Murphy Brown's single mother status, he turned out to have a point.
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Dan Quayle. For all the mockery he got for criticizing Murphy Brown's single mother status, he turned out to have a point.
And what point would that be? Feminists and Hollywood ruined families?
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Dan Quayle. For all the mockery he got for criticizing Murphy Brown's single mother status, he turned out to have a point.
And what point would that be? Feminists and Hollywood ruined families?
And that "potato" is spelled with an E?
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No, that single parenthood can be harmful to a child's development.
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No, that single parenthood can be harmful to a child's development.
He had a point there.
It's too bad he was blaming a fictional character from a TV show. Also, and that this was during a speech on the LA Riots. Seriously, it sounded like a huge non sequitur at the time.
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No, that single parenthood can be harmful to a child's development.
He had a point there.
It's too bad he was blaming a fictional character from a TV show. Also, and that this was during a speech on the LA Riots. Seriously, it sounded like a huge non sequitur at the time.
Yeah, I didn't say it was all that smart in context, I just said he had a point.
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You know, I think this thread needs an antithesis thread. Like, stuff that pisses you off about people you normally agree with.
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You know, I think this thread needs an antithesis thread. Like, stuff that pisses you off about people you normally agree with.
Sounds like a good idea.
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The NRA. I'm pro gun, but I'm not a fan of the NRA. I think they represent the interests of gun manufacturers rather than gun owners. However, I do appreciate the fact that they teach gun safety.
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Israel in general. I don't support theocracies that try to do Apartheid 2: Electric Boogaloo, but at least their military isn't sexist.