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The Lounge / Re: Random Thoughts Thread
« Last post by RavynousHunter on Today at 08:28:47 am »
I just thought of the most epic crossover game ever.  Doom + Wolfenstein + Serious Sam + Duke Nukem.  Blazco gunning down the hordes of Hell, Doomslayer ripping Nazis in half with his bare hands, all while Duke and Sam take turns spouting one-liners and taking down every alien in their path.  Bonus points if the hypothetical maker could find a way to end up revealing to Blazco that Doomslayer is his descendant.

"Come get some, you Nazi motherfuckers!"
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A lot of this seems like nutpicking, just because some of the most extreme outliers of people who talk about Black Pride, like the ones mentioned in the NYT piece, are raving loonies who call whites abominations doesn't discredit the idea of Black Pride per se-nor does it alter the fact that in the "anglosphere", whites are socially and economically on top and generally know who their ancestors were so don't have to fall back on skin color.

Way back in the day Run DMC used to rap about being proud to be black, if they thought white people were abominations what the hell were they doing performing with Aerosmith?
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Society and History / Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Last post by SCarpelan on Today at 04:48:42 am »
Allow me to help you with that, as an NYT subscriber.

https://pastebin.com/WAC3UAXM

The link is a transcript of the article, set to expire in one week and unlisted, to ensure that I don't hurt the newspaper's income in any way.

Oh my fucking non-existent god most of that article is so awful it hurts. People are supposed to have sympathy for Murdoch for him losing one of his mansions in the California fires or treat McCain's offensive politics with silk gloves? Hate of whiteness "as a system" is implied to be offensive and racist? (The concept and system of "whiteness" is the base for separating races and modern racism, it is not referring to the white people as a race.)

https://thoughtcatalog.com/emily-goldstein/2015/05/get-rid-of-white-people/

Really? I hope that this is one of those moments where you didn't read your own links. "Emily Goldstein" calling for white genocide? The troll is so obvious that one of the first Google results for the name is an anti-semitic blog calling them out for doing harm to anti-semitic conspiracy theories.
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Society and History / Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Last post by Eiki-mun on Today at 03:41:57 am »
I couldn't read the NYtimes one because paywall,

Allow me to help you with that, as an NYT subscriber.

https://pastebin.com/WAC3UAXM

The link is a transcript of the article, set to expire in one week and unlisted, to ensure that I don't hurt the newspaper's income in any way.
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Politics and Government / Re: Sex Crime Allegations Against Roy Moore
« Last post by Askold on Today at 03:19:33 am »
It's not over until he admits defeat. He can still cause some trouble refusing to concede and ...I dunno, promoting an armed uprising to make him the senator?
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Politics and Government / Re: Sex Crime Allegations Against Roy Moore
« Last post by Eiki-mun on Today at 03:18:00 am »


Once again Garrison makes a ridiculous cartoon. I'm too tired to point out all the stupidity in it.

Just like the Titanic, Roy Moore also was declared 'unsinkable', an automatic victory for the GOP, and just like the Titanic, he sank in the end. A good cartoon.
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Society and History / Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Last post by niam2023 on Today at 02:14:02 am »
I'm going to go with rationalwiki's article on the subject.
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Society and History / Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Last post by Skybison on Today at 01:40:39 am »
Why shouldn't I assume the articles you posted weren't written by Trolls?  I couldn't read the NYtimes one because paywall, but the first one came across to me a potentially something meant as a joke, and the last one is so absurdly over the top that part of me is thinking it can't be serious.  I know there are total assholes on the far left parts of Tumblr and twitter (ie that steven universe fanart debacle) but "I want to be a victim of genocide"?  Really? 

But I'm sure you think I should assume they are serious.  That I should assume the Affinity writer genuinely wants to ban white men from voting and thought catalog girl really wants to be murdered.  So why?  Why should I assume they are serious but the guy claiming to be a nazi isn't?  What's the difference?

After all there have been examples of trolls posing as people on the far left too

http://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/06/15/endfathersday-trolls-being-trolls-or-black-propaganda-designed-to-tear-apart-feminism/
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Politics and Government / Re: What is Terrorism?
« Last post by Skybison on Today at 01:33:41 am »
I honestly don't consider Elliot Rodger to be a terrorist exactly because although he was a bigot he wasn't really trying to accomplish anything, just kill for the sake of killing.  A terrorist  is someone like Yasser Arafat or something who kill as a means to an end, rampage pseudocommandos like Paddock, Rodger kill just to kill.  Even a pseudocommando more unquestionably a terrorist like Breivik I'd argue has very little in common with the Arafats of the world, but a lot in common with the Paddocks and Lanza's. 
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Society and History / Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Last post by Lana Reverse on Today at 01:30:58 am »
It's for that same reason "Police lives matter" is racist.  Nobody ever said it isn't okay to be white.  The purpose of the campaign is to distract from actual problems by setting up a false equivalency as an excuse to start arguments and get angry.

Also I've got a question for you as well: If someone is claiming to be a Nazi online, but could just be either real or a troll, do you think assuming real is a bad thing, and if so why?

Um, about that...

http://affinitymagazine.us/2017/08/01/do-white-men-really-deserve-to-vote/

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/09/opinion/sunday/villifying-white-men.html

https://thoughtcatalog.com/emily-goldstein/2015/05/get-rid-of-white-people/

I have more if you'd like to see them. Salon alone has so many articles bashing white people, you'd think they were run by the Nation of Islam.

As for your question, it depends. If somebody calls themselves a Nazi on a website that links to their real identity, like Facebook or Twitter, then I'd say they probably are one. However, on an imageboard known for being a troll magnet, I prefer not to make assumptions. I don't think there's any real harm in assuming sincerity, but what is there to be gained from doing so?
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