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Ruined Forever
« on: January 27, 2012, 06:55:32 pm »
Ruined FOREVER

So, I'm reading the DDD tweets just now and get one where they announce that Kim Kardashian will be guest starring for season 4. My automatic response was to reply:

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@DropDeadDiva @KimKardashian You've just ruined season 4 for me.

I know I'm probably jumping the gun and season 4 will be faboo, but I can't help but worry.

So, what are your favorite shows/movies/books/graphic novels that have been Ruined FOREVER and what did it?
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Quote from: Mlle Antéchrist on January 29, 2012, 10:53:28 pm
Lithp and Vene really need to have some kind of confusing sexual encounter where Vene spends the entire session lovingly insulting Lithp's technique, then cums on his face, ruffles his hair, says, "You're all right, kid!", and then punches him in the nuts.

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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 08:48:16 pm »
Naruto-Tobi "Not Madara" Uchiha sums it all up for me. He introduced an endless chain of asspulls, total retcons, deus/diabolus ex machina, & filler that the series shows no sign of recovering from.

FFXII-I was interested in that game for the first couple areas. There was backstabbing, monster hunts, & giant battles. Then it showed what it was really going to be like. I dealt with the shoddy gameplay, the Guide Damn Its, & the lazy level design well enough. It was the multi-dungeon crawls & sudden drop in story scenes that finally did it in for me.

By extension, XII basically killed whatever shred of tolerance I had left for the "Ivalice Alliance." I don't care what anyone says, they are not canon. It is insultingly obvious that these games were never planned to go together, & were haphazardly thrown together for marketing purposes.

And that's pretty much it. It takes a lot to get me to actually start hating something I used to love. Mostly, I just hate its many flaws, but accept the good of it.
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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 01:14:10 am »
Star Wars
ruined by: crappy prequels which had the potential to be so awesome
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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 01:31:23 am »
I've already bitched about it at length, but...

Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Ruined by: Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords.

While I'm on the subject:

Star Wars: The Jedi Knight series. Ruined by: Jedi Academy.

Burn Notice. Ruined By: Going on too damn long.

Mythbusters. Ruined By: Doing all the well-known myths, going on too long. (Sorry guys, I still love you!)

Simon and Garfunkel. ALMOST Ruined by: The Graduate.
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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 01:48:07 am »
Yeah, it takes a LOT to ruin something I love...in fact, I can't point to things in any series I like that make me go "RUINED FOREVER."  Mostly because I tend to judge things based on a per game/episode/book/whatever basis...but, I have some near-misses:

Ultima.  Nearly screwed by Ultima IX: Ascension.  This game is the single reason I will never have any love for Electronic Arts whatsoever.  Not only did they halt The Lost Vale, the expansion for Ultima VIII which had the potential to make it go from okay to epic, but this game was an absolute, utter travesty.  A list for every single nitpick the Ultima fanbase has been able to find in Ultima IX.  There's 506 of them in total...that's more than every other fucking game in the series put together.  It had the potential, much like its direct predecessor, to be an absolutely breathtakingly epic game...one of the first 3D RPGs with a large, open world.  So much potential...fucked by EA.  For that one blunder, EA can burn in gaming hell for the rest of eternity.

Thief.  Nearly screwed by Thief: Deadly Shadows.  Now, Thief III was a fair game in and of itself...but, it suffered a very similar problem to Ascension: excessive executive meddling.  Ion Storm, if I remember correctly, was originally going to make their own, homebrew engine specifically for this game.  But, due to executive bullshit, they had to kludge a stealth system into the Unreal engine.  Even then, it could've been an excellent game, worthy of being a descendant of the most excellent Thief II, had it not been for the seriously buggy release, initial lack of modding tools, and, worst of all...the Keeper Enforcers.  These guys had the potential to be thoroughly terrifying enemies, but, as it would turn out...they were nothing more than retarded killing machines who would spend most of their time killing innocent civilians.

I'm sure there are more, but my brain's gone to Uselessville on me, unfortunately...
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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2012, 01:53:41 am »
IMO, Neverwinter Nights 2 was a terrible game compared to its predecessor. Despite being only okay graphically, it still slows down your computer to a crawl, sometimes crashing the game completely. The game is incredibly unfinished. There are cutscenes that don't always trigger correctly, quests that are cut off, and other stupid glitches. Seriously, the game is a computer crash waiting to happen. Whenever I play the game, I have to save my game every time I try to enter another part of the map, just in case it will crash on me. And saving takes like five minutes. Seriously. I saved my game once, went to the bathroom, came back, and it was still saving.

Apparently this is because Bioware, in their great wisdom, decided to rearrange the entire fucking project team halfway through. People were reassigned to portions of the game that weren't their original work, and there was general confusion all around because some of those original workers had been laid off. Apparently they went through, like, three or four project leaders before they finished. And they were rushed a lot, leaving the game in basically its beta stage, and hoping that the fanbase would be willing to do their bug-testing for them.
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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2012, 02:28:24 am »
Scrubs season 9 ruined what was a great series.

Code Geass R2, though YMMV as some see it as hilarious.

Dragon Ball Z was ruined by going for too long and having a large piece of bubblegum destroying the universe.
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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 02:33:38 am »
Quote from: largeham on January 28, 2012, 02:28:24 am
Scrubs season 9 ruined what was a great series.

Dragon Ball Z was ruined by going for too long and having a large piece of bubblegum destroying the universe.

Thank you!

For me Scrubs ended with JD walking out the door and having his "vision" of the future at he end of season 8.

As for DBZ, what are you talking about? It obviously ended after the Cell Saga. They wouldn't dare put something as god awful as Buu and Saiyaman on. Right? Right? I hallucinated that, right?
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Quote from: Mlle Antéchrist on January 29, 2012, 10:53:28 pm
Lithp and Vene really need to have some kind of confusing sexual encounter where Vene spends the entire session lovingly insulting Lithp's technique, then cums on his face, ruffles his hair, says, "You're all right, kid!", and then punches him in the nuts.

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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2012, 02:48:34 am »
It tickles me how people act like DBZ had some kind of standard at some point.

Code Geass just took the dive way too early for me to get attracted to it. Had all of that giant mecha horseshit been just a few episodes off, I might have said it was Ruined FOREVER.
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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2012, 08:16:18 am »
Quote from: Wykked Wytch on January 28, 2012, 01:53:41 am
IMO, Neverwinter Nights 2 was a terrible game compared to its predecessor. . .Apparently this is because Bioware, in their great wisdom, decided to rearrange the entire fucking project team halfway through.

Obsidian made NWN2, not BioWare.

Dragonriders of Pern series was ruined when Todd McCaffrey started "co-authoring" them. (I'm convinced Anne had nothing to do with those books.)
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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2012, 08:53:27 am »
House MD when Amber kicked it.
Bones when they kicked off Zach.
L Word when they made Shane lose Shay.
Star Trek when they tried to milk it with the reboot.
Star Wars games anything post KOTOR 1 (including TOR. Don't even try to convince me it's a good game >.>)
Star Wars movies the prequels. And also when we decided to edit the original trilogy to try to fix the retconning done in the prequels.
Brothers in Arms when we decided to be 'edgy' and completely destroy the series in game 3 and are trying to copy Inglourious Basterds with the newest rendition.
Harry Potter after Sirius kicked it.

...I have more because I'm very picky.
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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2012, 10:47:46 am »
The Simpsons, ruined by going for way too long. (Shoulda ended after season 10!)
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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2012, 01:36:10 pm »
I love Spyro to death, and while all the Spyro games from Enter the Dragonfly onward were godawful (because Insomniac Games was no longer the developer), they'll never ruin the original series for me. Still, Enter the Dragonfly has got to be the worst game I've ever played for the PS2. It's glitchy as all hell, has downright painful loading times, poorly designed levels, crappy voice acting, and they fucking BROUGHT RIPTO BACK. What the hell??? You dumbasses really couldn't write your own storyline and create a new antagonist? And if you're gonna bring Ripto back, why don't you actually EXPLAIN his motherfucking return? You know, add some sort of decent twist to this shithole of a game? But noooooo, you've gotta bring back not only Ripto, but also Crush and Gulp, his companions that I fucking DEFEATED in the second game. They don't just resurrect, you morons. Christ. In addition, the different breaths they gave Spyro (bubble, lightning, ice) were just silly, and the reversal of the controls (square for attack and circle for charge) was like someone was just trying to piss off every fan of the series.
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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2012, 03:53:16 pm »
@ Sleepy:  I miss the original Spyro... I wish they'd re-release that.  It'd give me a reason to buy a PS3.  That and Sly Cooper.  Sexiest thief ever, baby.
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Re: Ruined Forever
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2012, 04:02:59 pm »
Quote from: Shane for Wax on January 28, 2012, 08:53:27 am
House MD when Amber kicked it.

The Huddy season 7 was largely horrible filler and making him even more nuts than he already was, but this season has been pretty cool so far.

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Bones when they kicked off Zach.


Last season and this season are doing a good job at redemption.

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Harry Potter after Sirius kicked it.

...I have more because I'm very picky.

100% agree on this one. I couldn't even read the 6th or 7th books cause she *wails* K-k-kiiiiiilled mah puppeh!

Quote from: Servo on January 28, 2012, 10:47:46 am
The Simpsons, ruined by going for way too long. (Shoulda ended after season 10!)

The show did go down hill around a decade ago. What season is this? 23?

Quote from: Lithp on January 28, 2012, 02:48:34 am
It tickles me how people act like DBZ had some kind of standard at some point.

The standards were low but they were still there. Saiyaman was a narmy narm narm of "Okay, the strongest creature in the universe is running around fighting crime, ineptly, in a bad costume. Someone hand me a bottle, I've come up with a new drinking game!" type of thing.

Buu was just...At least you could respect the villains before Buu. Halfway respect them, at least.

Also, Family Guy should have stayed canceled. American Dad is under-appreciated and has better jokes.
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Quote from: Mlle Antéchrist on January 29, 2012, 10:53:28 pm
Lithp and Vene really need to have some kind of confusing sexual encounter where Vene spends the entire session lovingly insulting Lithp's technique, then cums on his face, ruffles his hair, says, "You're all right, kid!", and then punches him in the nuts.
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