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Re: Shafia's found guilty of 1st Degree Murder
« Reply #30 on: January 31, 2012, 09:51:24 am »
I'd have paid good money to see that judge address the family with something along the lines of: "You have ended four lives because they did not want to be under your control. Because they wanted to have the same freedoms afforded to everyone else in this nation. This is the act of a coward and has brought nothing but shame and dishonor on every member of your family. This shame will continue to stain your family long after you have died and faded from memory."
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Re: Shafia's found guilty of 1st Degree Murder
« Reply #31 on: January 31, 2012, 08:51:36 pm »
I doubt the Shafia's care what the judge thinks as he is a dirty infidel. The people who's opinion they care about (other retarded fundies) probably support their actions.

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Re: Shafia's found guilty of 1st Degree Murder
« Reply #32 on: January 31, 2012, 09:32:39 pm »
They posted up another article detailing exactly how the police solved the crime... Interesting read...

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/inside-look-shafia-case-police-tell-killers-were-202627691.html

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Re: Shafia's found guilty of 1st Degree Murder
« Reply #33 on: January 31, 2012, 11:00:14 pm »
I'd have paid good money to see that judge address the family with something along the lines of: "You have ended four lives because they did not want to be under your control. Because they wanted to have the same freedoms afforded to everyone else in this nation. This is the act of a coward and has brought nothing but shame and dishonor on every member of your family. This shame will continue to stain your family long after you have died and faded from memory."

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Re: Shafia's found guilty of 1st Degree Murder
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2012, 06:34:50 am »
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/shafias-appeal-murder-convictions-161510424.html

Good luck with this, considering the RECORDINGS police took of you assholes... :eyeroll:

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Re: Shafia's found guilty of 1st Degree Murder
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2012, 02:52:18 pm »
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She told the court that when family honour is threatened, it is acceptable and expected in some cultures that a male family member could kill a relative.

NO!  BAD EXPERT!  It is never ever ever acceptable to murder anyone even for a something as vague as "bruised honor".

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Re: Shafia's found guilty of 1st Degree Murder
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2012, 04:06:39 pm »
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She told the court that when family honour is threatened, it is acceptable and expected in some cultures that a male family member could kill a relative.

NO!  BAD EXPERT!  It is never ever ever acceptable to murder anyone even for a something as vague as "bruised honor".

Ironbite-hope you rot in hell you stupid bitch.
Some cultures, maybe, but this is Canada. If you don't like our rules don't let the door hit you in the ass.

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Re: Shafia's found guilty of 1st Degree Murder
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2012, 04:16:50 pm »
I doubt the Shafia's care what the judge thinks as he is a dirty infidel. The people who's opinion they care about (other retarded fundies) probably support their actions.

I know. Bonus points if the judge is Muslim and wearing a turban.
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Re: Shafia's found guilty of 1st Degree Murder
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2012, 05:28:47 pm »
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She told the court that when family honour is threatened, it is acceptable and expected in some cultures that a male family member could kill a relative.

NO!  BAD EXPERT!  It is never ever ever acceptable to murder anyone even for a something as vague as "bruised honor".

Ironbite-hope you rot in hell you stupid bitch.

Um.  She's a witness for the prosecution.  She's made it her mission in life to fight the patriarchal societies that allow for this.  She was just explaining why people would commit honor killings, not trying to justify them.  The defense is pointing to her to say that she isn't an objective witness, and therefore her testimony should be thrown out.
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Re: Shafia's found guilty of 1st Degree Murder
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2012, 03:04:18 am »
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She told the court that when family honour is threatened, it is acceptable and expected in some cultures that a male family member could kill a relative.

NO!  BAD EXPERT!  It is never ever ever acceptable to murder anyone even for a something as vague as "bruised honor".

Ironbite-hope you rot in hell you stupid bitch.

Um.  She's a witness for the prosecution.  She's made it her mission in life to fight the patriarchal societies that allow for this.  She was just explaining why people would commit honor killings, not trying to justify them.  The defense is pointing to her to say that she isn't an objective witness, and therefore her testimony should be thrown out.

Yeah that is what expert witnesses do, in that particular culture honour killing is acceptable so that is what she told the court. If she had added that she thinks honour killing is bad then that would have been her personal opinion and that is not important to the case.

I still think that it is hypocritical that Shafia's are trying to deny the murder and even deny that honour killings happen while they use the very honour killing customs as their justification for what they did.

Either:

a) Honour killing is acceptable in their culture (but not in Canadian culture or laws) and they should go to jail for what they did. (Even if their "honour" is pure according to their culture/religion.)

b) Honour killing is not acceptable in their culture in which case they have not only broken canadian laws but also further tarnished their honour according to their culture/religion.
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