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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1455 on: August 06, 2017, 09:37:06 pm »
Trump does not deserve a free pass for any of his horrible policies.

Neither does Obama.

Nor Bush Jr.

Nor Clinton.

Nor Bush Sr.

Nor Reagan...

But to blame Obama for Trump's major transgressions because of Obama's less serious transgressions is intellectually dishonest. What you say sounds good on paper, but it just provides defense for Assange's indefensible defense of Trump (but of course, Assange is just being kind to Trump...again).
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1456 on: August 07, 2017, 07:00:54 pm »
Trump does not deserve a free pass for any of his horrible policies.

Neither does Obama.

Nor Bush Jr.

Nor Clinton.

Nor Bush Sr.

Nor Reagan...

But to blame Obama for Trump's major transgressions because of Obama's less serious transgressions is intellectually dishonest. What you say sounds good on paper, but it just provides defense for Assange's indefensible defense of Trump (but of course, Assange is just being kind to Trump...again).

I'm not blaming Obama for Trump's transgressions. Trump's transgressions are on Trump and Trump alone. But I will say that Obama transgressed (for instance, suspending habeas corpus), and point out when Trump's transgressions are continuations or escalations of Obama's (for instance, the drone war). Trump could have insisted on a repeal of the 2013 NDAA (at least to the extent that it suspended habeas corpus), and stopped the drone war. But he hasn't done the former and has escalated the latter. It would be dishonest not to point out that what Trump is doing is not new policy, and further not to point out that it's not Bush-era policy that was suspended during the Obama years and reinstated by Trump, but rather policy followed during the Obama years (possibly continued from the Bush years, possibly new) and carried over into the Trump administration.

By contrast, Obama had repealed a rule preventing the US from giving funds to programs that discuss abortion in other countries; Trump reinstated it. That's on Trump and only Trump. Obama did the right thing, Trump did the wrong thing. (Granted, this has been the standard for decades: the ban is in place during Republican administrations and lifted during Democratic administrations, but Trump could have broken that precedent by refusing to reinstate the ban. That he didn't is a black mark against him.)

Meanwhile, Ken Starr warned Bob Mueller not to go on a fishing expedition.


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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1457 on: August 07, 2017, 07:04:01 pm »
I saw the Ken Starr thing here:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFvWPC4lUSA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFvWPC4lUSA</a>

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1458 on: August 08, 2017, 04:34:34 pm »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8w7uEYcUcRw

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1459 on: August 08, 2017, 06:01:56 pm »
Oh fuck! <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwVC9S9o5jc" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwVC9S9o5jc</a>

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1460 on: August 08, 2017, 06:05:07 pm »
Thank god we've got a State Department just bursting at the seams with people who are experienced with diplomacy and tact and can probably score huge points by defusing this situation.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1461 on: August 08, 2017, 06:12:39 pm »
I'm looking around the world at the countries that have nukes and their political leadership.

And as near as I can tell, the only stable, sane one is France (I'd include the UK except that the Tories have to navigate a minority government working with the DUP, and who knows if May will last as Conservative leader, or whether there'll be an election that might see Corbyn end up as PM, or...).

We're fucked.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1462 on: August 08, 2017, 06:20:52 pm »
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1463 on: August 08, 2017, 09:02:36 pm »
So Kim Jung Un is threatening to attack Guam. He can't be that stupid right?  They have a large army but with cold war technology they would be decimated. If they attack first I doubt China is going to aid them. Our idiot and chief can't keep his fucking mouth shut either. Can't we just put those two fat heads in a boxing ring together?

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1464 on: August 08, 2017, 09:11:46 pm »
So Kim Jung Un is threatening to attack Guam. He can't be that stupid right?  They have a large army but with cold war technology they would be decimated. If they attack first I doubt China is going to aid them. Our idiot and chief can't keep his fucking mouth shut either. Can't we just put those two fat heads in a boxing ring together?

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1465 on: August 08, 2017, 11:54:46 pm »
Guam.

He's threatening Guam.

I doubt most Americans even know what Guam is, or somehow think he's threatening their guacamole.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1466 on: August 09, 2017, 12:19:34 am »
So Kim Jung Un is threatening to attack Guam. He can't be that stupid right?  They have a large army but with cold war technology they would be decimated.
I'd say the US military will destroy far more than just 1/10th of their North Korean counterpart if given half a chance.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1467 on: August 09, 2017, 05:42:14 am »
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1468 on: August 09, 2017, 06:11:48 am »
Don't forget, all of the black supporters proven to be bots? The pictures were brightened from the placeit photos they were taken from to make them appear lighter-skinned.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #1469 on: August 09, 2017, 04:55:31 pm »
Guam.

He's threatening Guam.

I doubt most Americans even know what Guam is, or somehow think he's threatening their guacamole.

As a regular on the main page, I always think of notorious Fundie pedophile David J. Stewart whenever Guam comes up--he's basically in exile there.  Thanks a lot, DJ Stupid, for making me think of you instead of Guam's people.
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