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Redneck revolt
« on: July 16, 2017, 02:07:49 am »
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/guns-are-fine-racism-is-not-armed-redneck-lefties-are-waging-a-different-kind-of-war-on-fascism/



Rednecks with guns, yes but these guys are mainly leftists and oppose racism.

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“People need to be able to defend themselves. [We] live in a country in the world where people of color and LGBTQ people are routinely victimized and systematically victimized by the people who claim to be there for their defense,” a Pittsburgh, PA Redneck Revolt organizer named Shaun told Shadowproof. We provide free basic firearms training to pretty much everyone who needs it. We focus on trying to provide [self-defense training] when asked for [by] communities of color and LGBTQ folks.”

Interesting. I was kinda expecting news like this as guns are so common in USA that it was unlikely that only Right-wingers have them.

It's also interesting to see if NRA turns on these guys and GOP suddenly starts to promote gun control as a way to disarm leftists and minorities...
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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #1 on: July 16, 2017, 02:56:25 am »
It seems I was incorrect about rednecks.

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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2017, 03:06:21 am »
So, kind of a white black panthers?

Yeah, there was a punk rock subculture a while ago calling themselves "rednecks" which is different to the racist kind with some links to the psychobillies. I think some of the Redneck Revolt guys have also been involved in anti racist skinhead movements like RASH and SHARP.
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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2017, 03:23:42 am »
Considering that I've seen a left wing Youtuber calling himself "The Liberal Red Neck" using his platform to argue for left wing causes with a deep south accent and enjoying trucks and hunting, this doesn't surprise me all that much.
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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2017, 03:46:51 am »
Some of the pictures of the old Young Patriot Party on the Redneck Revolt website are pretty incredible.




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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2017, 04:12:40 am »
California used to have an open carry law, thanks to NRA lobbying.

Then the Black Panthers started openly carrying guns.

The NRA was instrumental in repealing California's open carry law.
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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2017, 10:02:09 am »
Well shit, something worthwhile came out of the redneck subculture, after all.  I am legitimately surprised, and pleasantly so.
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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2017, 02:38:00 pm »
Yeah, I've read about this group a while ago. Ideologically, they are pretty much average anarchists who just happen to live in rural communities instead of cities. The main difference between an anarchist in here, for example, and these guys is the influence of the American gun culture. While I disagree on their stance on guns in principle, I understand where they are coming from since in the American context the way the legal system is applied in practice is very much imbalanced against the lower classes and minorities. I understand the fear that a potential tighter gun regulation would end up transferring more power away from the poor communities specially when you take into account the the anarchists' general distrust of the system.

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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2017, 03:36:53 am »
That's some windowlicking shit right there.

I mean superficially it makes sense, pro-gun people are usually pretty well acquainted with the concept of armed revolt against the government.  But then you add in "pro-worker" and "anti-capitalist", basically buzzwords for communist activists.

Protip chaps, you don't get to be pro-gun in a communist state.  You get disarmed, then if you complain you get disappeared.  If the state is supposedly a workers collective, advocating the violent overthrow of it makes you an enemy of the people kinda by definition.  Who cares if the party stops representing the people and instead starts repressing them?  It's too fucking late by that point...

I know your education system is fucked over there, but have you seriously broken your teaching of 20th century history that badly?


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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2017, 04:47:49 am »
I mean superficially it makes sense, pro-gun people are usually pretty well acquainted with the concept of armed revolt against the government.  But then you add in "pro-worker" and "anti-capitalist", basically buzzwords for communist activists.
Actually, it tends to mean socialist nowadays. This isn't the 1970's, after all.

Come to think of it, I haven't even heard of any communist activists in decades. It's my hope that even the stupidest lefties have figured out that in practice it's just the flavour of propaganda you get in an otherwise bog standard dictatorship. Unlikely, I know. Betting against human stupidity in any area is generally a bad move, but I feel like a bit of optimism is nice every now and again.

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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2017, 05:23:08 am »
Come to think of it, I haven't even heard of any communist activists in decades.

There are still a few diehards clinging on.  They tend to show up at rallies, but I don't think I've seen more than two or three at a time.

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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2017, 05:35:36 am »
They've also largely blended with the anarchists these days.
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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2017, 06:46:53 am »
@lord gibbon:

Did you mean with idiots?

There are those of us who realize that anarchocommunism is every bit as stupid and dangerous as anarchocapitalism.
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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2017, 07:36:52 am »
There are communists i n Finland at least. Not many and they have several political parties because tbey can't stand each other. The fall of USSR caused a lot of ideological splits.

Nowadays leftists are mainly in the "Nordic democracy seems awesome let's go back to that" and generally they are not in support of a communist state.
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Re: Redneck revolt
« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2017, 09:39:49 am »
Like, I have my misgivings about democracy and some...what some might call strange ideas about the role of government, but even I realize that the answer isn't to either put a stranglehold on everything (totalitarianism) or just outright abolish law and order (anarchy).  There's a fucking medium and it can be found, it just needs time.
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