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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2655 on: November 29, 2018, 10:40:53 am »
No matter what happens, no matter what my last words may end up being, I want everyone to claim that they were:
"If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine."
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2656 on: November 29, 2018, 11:21:29 am »
No he is not.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2657 on: November 29, 2018, 07:31:00 pm »
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=2&vote=00250

The US Senate has moved to discharge a joint resolution to direct the President to withdraw US forces from participation in Saudi Arabia's hostilities in Yemen absent approval by Congress.

The motion passed 63-37 as fourteen Republican Senators joined 47 Democratic and 2 Independent Senators to pass it. Those fourteen were Sens. Alexander (TN), Cassidy (LA), Collins (ME), Corker (TN), Daines (MT), Flake (AZ), Graham (SC), Lee (UT), Moran (KS), Murkowski (AK), Paul (KY), Portman (OH), Toomey (PA), and Young (IN).
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2658 on: November 29, 2018, 07:53:50 pm »
Oh bless Collins black heart.  She's trying to save her seat.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2659 on: November 29, 2018, 08:02:09 pm »
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46390368

Trump is not having a good week.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2660 on: November 29, 2018, 08:28:54 pm »
Trump is in the middle of the "Hitler Rants" stage of his Presidency.

Everything is crumbling around him and he's left ranting angrily at advisers and presumably we'll eventually get a Trump flavored Downfall movie. (Trumpfall?)
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2661 on: November 30, 2018, 12:22:36 am »
Oh bless Collins black heart.  She's trying to save her seat.

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Honestly the one that surprised me is Graham. Guy's a consistent warmonger.

EDIT: Though I think he's also something of an institutionalist, so his objection may be that Congress hasn't voted to authorize the action, not that the US is complicit in war crimes (again).
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2662 on: December 02, 2018, 01:57:48 am »
Two Psychologists did a study finding that Trump fans are very insecure in the the size of their penises.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2018/11/29/how-donald-trump-appeals-to-men-secretly-insecure-about-their-manhood/?utm_term=.bd2b9e26f531

Well okay it's more that male Trump fans are much more likely google search for things connected to being insecure in ones masculinity like “erectile dysfunction,” “hair loss,” “how to get girls,” “penis enlargement,” “penis size,” “steroids,” “testosterone” and “Viagra”  even when you adjust for age.  And that men who are insecure in their manhood are loudly supporting Trump to feel better about themselves.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2663 on: December 02, 2018, 02:13:43 am »
Back in Roman times, when everyone preferred small trouser snakes, I like to imagine the most loud and incompetent emperors were cheered on by men who're insecure about their gargantuan pork swords.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2664 on: December 03, 2018, 11:12:54 pm »
Oh bless Collins black heart.  She's trying to save her seat.

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She can try to save her seat all she damned well wants to.  We all know that in the lead up to the next election, whoever her opponent is is going to plaster Maine with ads about all the times she voted for whatever McConnell told her to, with promises that he'd give her something she wanted.  Which he never would.

You can whine all you want, Collins, but voting for Barto is going to cost you your seat.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2665 on: December 04, 2018, 03:29:06 pm »
That Kavanaugh speech basically sealed her fate in 2020.  Especially with how the Maine election played out.

Ironbite-might as well resign now so the GOP can try and wedge someone else in there.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2666 on: December 04, 2018, 04:55:23 pm »
That Kavanaugh speech basically sealed her fate in 2020.  Especially with how the Maine election played out.

Ironbite-might as well resign now so the GOP can try and wedge someone else in there.

As I've seen noted, Collins (like Manchin) has shown a remarkable ability to defy gravity. The last time she faced an unfavourable environment, after all, was 2008, where Obama won Maine by more than 17 points over McCain, but Collins won by almost 23 points--a 40-point swing. (Under more favourable conditions in 2014, she won by 37, while Obama won by a little over 15 points two years prior.)

She might also have been gambling on a closer Senate (51-49 or 50-50) than actually resulted, which would have given her a lot more influence than she has in a 53-47 Senate. As it is, she (and Lisa Murkowski) are effectively marginalized, as are other GOP Senators who have shown flashes of principle on various issues. (Think John Kennedy on net neutrality, or Rand Paul and Mike Lee on certain foreign policy matters.)

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see her make an independent run in 2020, figuring that she can't be re-elected as a Republican (even if she can win the primary) and that she couldn't win a Democratic primary if she jumped parties entirely. At least then she'd have a chance of picking up enough second-preference votes in a three-way race (assuming Maine's system is ruled constitutional, since Rep. Poliquin is challenging it in court after he lost on second preferences despite leading on first preferences).
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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2667 on: December 04, 2018, 05:15:06 pm »
I honestly doubt even an independent run in the future is gonna save her.  There's already a PAC dedicated to ousting her.

Ironbite-it'll be interesting to see what crops up in 2020 assuming we get elections then.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2668 on: December 04, 2018, 06:01:20 pm »
First of all, why wouldn't we get elections?

But I too think it'll be interesting in another 6 months when candidates start announcing. I'm curious to see who shows up for the Dems. I don't see much leadership or direction from that side, other than block Trump.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #2669 on: December 04, 2018, 06:23:13 pm »
First of all, why wouldn't we get elections?

Trump already said that he wants to cancel the result of the Arizona election because Rep. Sinema beat Rep. McSally.

But I too think it'll be interesting in another 6 months when candidates start announcing. I'm curious to see who shows up for the Dems. I don't see much leadership or direction from that side, other than block Trump.

For now that's about all they can do--and then only on legislation.
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It doesn't concern you, Sister, that kind of absolutist view of the universe? Right and wrong determined solely by a single all-knowing, all powerful being whose judgment cannot be questioned and in whose name the most horrendous acts can be sanctioned without appeal?

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Being required by someone else’s religious beliefs to behave contrary to one’s sexual identity is degrading and disrespectful.