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Community => Politics and Government => Topic started by: D Laurier on January 04, 2012, 10:33:26 am
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Steven Harper, Prime Minister of Canada.
Harper began his career with the infamous Reform Party when it was the freindly face of the notorious white supremacist group Heritage Front. At one point he was knowingly using nazi skinheads as security for party functions.
He was, and still is, a member of the Alliance Church. The Alliance church is an ultra rightwing fundamentalist church with a strong white supremacist following.
He was, and still is, an active member of another notorious white supremacist group, The Northern Foundation
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He helped mastermind the transformation of the Reform party into the Alliance Party, a whitewash of the scandals that had plagued the Reform Party. The Alliance Party soon showed its own bigoted roots, endorsing racial and religious lunacy of the worst sort.
Harper was utterly unelectable untill his foreign allies financed the merger/takover of the broken federal Conservative Party This merger , plus a general whitewashing by freindly corporate media, allowed Harper to present himself as just a "plain folks" conservative. Carefull control of the media has alowed Harper to appear non-threatening, and to smokescreen his past expressions of anti-Canadian contempt and hostility. The import of
American handlers, many with experience working for the Republican Party, has helped create a wall of faux respectability around a man who's own shallow personality masked an ego as big as Alberta.
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Those are some pretty big claims you're making. Care to provide a few links on the matter, particularly anything that unambiguously proves him to be a white supremacist?
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Isn't his name spelled Stephen?
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Hullo Art. You asked for supporting links.
Unfortunately I couldn't find one to a record of Harper openly declaring himself a white supremacist... but Theres a couple that illustrate his membership in and/or association with groups that do endorse white supremacist dogma.
I think it reasonable to infere that birds of a feather do indeed flock together.
http://www.nupge.ca/content/stephen-harper-s-record-denying-democracy
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/227547-Psychopathology-in-Canadian-Politics-Stephen-Harper-s-Ruthless-Drive-for-Power
You may want to read this twice
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2011/04/19/03610.html
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/be-very-afraid-stephen-harpers-inventing-a-new-canada/article2274601/?utm_medium=Feeds%3A+RSS%2FAtom&utm_source=Politics&utm_content=2274601
And a great description of what facism looks like
http://www.themodernword.com/eco/eco_blackshirt.html
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Is there a way the Canadians can vote this guy out? I know the Government is a different system/structure up there. Canadians are usually pretty inteligent & savvy people, I'm certain it'll be easier to overthrow the Fascists up than it is in the States.
The same evil is happening to Sweden, a peaceful, Progressive nation that's being overrun by far-right inhumans. However, Canada & Sweden have a chance to nip it in the bud.
I think, the problem with us Progressives is that we think they are stupid, we're too naive & we are not cautious. For too long the Regressives have always won the battles. Our best leaders assassinated. Our efforts undermined by programs like CONTELPRO, moles, agent provacateurs, spies & various varieties of "dirty tricks". WE NEED TO ANTICIPATE THESE THINGS! They don't play fair & THEY ARE VERY INTELLIGENT & VERY CUNNING! Also, who's to say that the various Low-IQ statements by Ms. Bachmann, Palin & others just part of the scheme? It's a thing called "Obtusfigating Stupidy" or simply, "Playing Dumb". I'm sure that these guys are smarter than they let on but their doofiness is an act designed to disarm us & underestimate them.
When Progressives temper their Idealism with Realism & Caution, shedding all naivite & accept the fact that the Regressives are VERY SMART & KNOW DAMN WELL WHAT THEY ARE DOING....We will begin to win!
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It's "Obfuscating Stupidity".
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Why does it seem like that the ultra right wing factions are trying to take over each nation?
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Why does it seem like that the ultra right wing factions are trying to take over each nation?
Why indeed...
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Why does it seem like that the ultra right wing factions are trying to take over each nation?
cause they are?
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Why does it seem like that the ultra right wing factions are trying to take over each nation?
That's generally what factions of any persuasion try to do.
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From George Takei, via Facebook:
Since we're on the topic of Canada today, here's a gem:
And God turned to Gabriel and said: “I shall creÂÂate a land called Canada of outÂÂstandÂÂing natÂÂural beauty, with majesÂÂtic mounÂÂtains soaring with eagles, sparkling lakes abundant with bass and trout, forests full of elk and moose, and rivers stocked with salmon. I shall make the land rich in oil so the inhabÂÂiÂÂtants prosÂÂper and call them CanaÂÂdiÂÂans, and they shall be praised as the friendliest of all peoÂÂple.â€Â
“But Lord,†asked Gabriel, “Is this not too genÂÂerÂÂous to these CanaÂÂdiÂÂans?â€Â
And God replied, “Just wait and see the neighÂÂbors I shall inflict upon them.â€Â
But seriously, I find it very hard to believe this kind of stuff is going on in Canada. I always thought they were so much more progressive than the states.
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Honestly, Harper while quite far right for my tastes, isn't even half as bad as some of your contenders for President. The only issues I have are that his Government panders too much to corporations, doesn't make the environment a priority, a bit too 'tough on crime', and runs to the defence of Israel even faster than the US.
The thing is, us Canadians don't care much about the personal beliefs of our politicians, and politicians know well enough not to say anything about their beliefs unless it toes with Party line. That's when a politician might say something a simple as 'Muslim women should not wear a hiijab while taking the oath of citizenship', there's a national debate. Whereas in the US, you have your leaders raving about the 'homosexual agenda' and the majority of you don't even bat an eye.
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But seriously, I find it very hard to believe this kind of stuff is going on in Canada. I always thought they were so much more progressive than the states.
The problem is that the U.S. has gone so far to the right that our right wingers have had to creep over just to keep from looking like a bunch of socialists.
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It's "Obfuscating Stupidity".
I know. Sorry to mispell.
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Why does it seem like that the ultra right wing factions are trying to take over each nation?
I know, it's nuts. You have the Teabaggers in the U.S., Harper in Canada, IslamoFundies in Malaysia, Far-Rights in Sweden, The Roman Catholic Church going from "Somewhat sane, mostly apolitical Vatican 2 types" to "Southern Baptist Convention with Smells & Bells".
I think the forces of religious zealotry know their time is short so they are having a last-ditch last hurrah before they die!
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Why does it seem like that the ultra right wing factions are trying to take over each nation?
I know, it's nuts. You have the Teabaggers in the U.S., Harper in Canada, IslamoFundies in Malaysia, Far-Rights in Sweden, The Roman Catholic Church going from "Somewhat sane, mostly apolitical Vatican 2 types" to "Southern Baptist Convention with Smells & Bells".
I think the forces of religious zealotry know their time is short so they are having a last-ditch last hurrah before they die!
It's a cun-speer-uh-see!
(http://images.wikia.com/kingofthehill/images/6/60/Dalegribble.jpg)
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Honestly, Harper while quite far right for my tastes, isn't even half as bad as some of your contenders for President. The only issues I have are that his Government panders too much to corporations, doesn't make the environment a priority, a bit too 'tough on crime', and runs to the defence of Israel even faster than the US.
This, although I'd add "lack of transparency", "poor relationship with the media" and "disregard for Parliamentary procedure" to the list of things I dislike.
The thing is, us Canadians don't care much about the personal beliefs of our politicians, and politicians know well enough not to say anything about their beliefs unless it toes with Party line. That's when a politician might say something a simple as 'Muslim women should not wear a hiijab while taking the oath of citizenship', there's a national debate. Whereas in the US, you have your leaders raving about the 'homosexual agenda' and the majority of you don't even bat an eye.
This is particularly true when it comes to personal religious beliefs, at least those held by mainstream candidates (i.e., not the Christian Heritage Party). Wearing ones religion on their sleeve is strongly discouraged in Canadian politics.
However, I'd say that many Canadians are somewhat concerned about opinions held by our leaders -- Harper's beliefs about gay marriage, while rarely expressed, are pretty well-known to most of us, and they're at least a little bit disconcerting. Realistically, I don't think the Tories are apt to try to tackle gay rights any time soon, but I would rather have a PM who is motivated to be proactive about this kind of thing, and Harper isn't that guy. I'm also not terribly fond of the sneakiness surrounding abortion rights, particularly that whole Planned Parenthood funding fiasco.
Edit: I think it's a bit dramatic to put Harper on par with the Tea Baggers. His policies on taxation and social programs are downright liberal compared to the crap being advocated by Tea Party candidates, even if they're right-wing for Canadian tastes.