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Science and Technology / Re: Google facing multiple lawsuits
« Last post by ironbite on Today at 01:05:45 pm »
Amazing
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I think another factor is that human beings in general are wired to seek out short-term solutions. That's fine for hunter-gatherers, but not so much for managing a complex society.
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Science and Technology / Re: Google facing multiple lawsuits
« Last post by Lana Reverse on Today at 12:22:36 pm »
Yeah, Pichai and Wojcicki don't say anything like what Damore's rant did.

Oh really?

Quote from: Susan Wojcicki
I think the problem is, is that computer science as a whole and tech as a whole has a reputation of being a very geeky male industry. And so if you look, not within the industry, but just as an educational pipeline, you see that we only have 20 percent of women graduating with computer science degrees, and that’s a problem in and of itself, because that means we don’t have enough people graduating who have those degrees. And you say, well, why is that? I think it has to do with these perceptions that the computer industry is, a geeky, not very interesting, not social industries, and it just couldn’t be further from the truth.

Quote from: Sundar Pichai
But I'm saying the representation matters. Right, so the way you solve this is by increasing the percentage of women in the tech industry. So, we need to make the environment more welcoming, we need to make the jobs more interesting.

Sounds to me like "women are underrepresented in tech because they generally don't find it interesting. We need to find ways to appeal to them." Which is exactly what Damore recommended:

Quote from: James Damore
Below I'll go over some of the differences in distribution of traits between men and women that I outlined in the previous section and suggest ways to address them to increase women's representation in tech without resorting to discrimination.

And then he goes on to list methods to appeal to women. But if the media says he's a male chauvinist gatekeeper, then it must be true.
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I have to disagree with you there. The party leaders aren't stupid. They're a far cry from those ignorant enough to be duped into voting against their own interests. On the contrary, they're intelligent and well educated enough to make the former happen in the first place, often through some rather sophisticated psychological trickery. They know full well that they're peddling bullshit. If they honestly believed in what they were doing, then lobbyists would have no reason to spend such obscene amounts on them in the first place.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by RavynousHunter on Today at 11:33:55 am »
This is what happens when your only metric for success is popularity.  Doesn't matter if you're a proven racist, barely literate, and rapidly succumbing to the ravages of old age; if you can appeal to lots of people, you're in.
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Science and Technology / Re: Google facing multiple lawsuits
« Last post by Askold on Today at 11:29:35 am »
Yeah, Pichai and Wojcicki don't say anything like what Damore's rant did.
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Science and Technology / Re: Google facing multiple lawsuits
« Last post by SCarpelan on Today at 10:46:44 am »
Guess who didn't read their own link again?
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Science and Technology / Re: Google facing multiple lawsuits
« Last post by Lana Reverse on Today at 10:22:58 am »
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Aaand JUSTICE: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-16/google-firing-of-damore-was-legal-u-s-labor-panel-lawyer-said

Not the way he wanted it to go but definitely fair.

This article is a nothingburger. An employee who believes they were unfairly terminated can ask the NLRB for relief without having to sue (not sure on the legal specifics). Damore did that, but he already dropped the complaint and decided to sue instead. This memo is something a lawyer wrote while the complaint was still pending, and is now public. A more accurate headline would be something along the lines of "NLRB Lawyer Would've Recommended Ruling against Damore".

By the way, you might be interested to know that Pichai and Wojcicki recently said things similar to what Damore said.
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Science and Technology / Re: Google facing multiple lawsuits
« Last post by ironbite on Today at 08:36:05 am »
So anything from Lana on this particular Hill she's chosen to die on?

Ironbite-so satisfying
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Science and Technology / Re: Google facing multiple lawsuits
« Last post by Askold on Today at 05:59:12 am »
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