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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by Id82 on Today at 11:18:12 am »
It doesn't look like his tax policy is going to go through that easily either. Especially after they find out that it's going to cost trillions of dollars to make it work.
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Religion and Philosophy / Re: Swiss islamists flee to Turkey
« Last post by Eiki-mun on Today at 10:31:24 am »
***didn't know how to translate that. Basically a conservative that cares about traditional values and virtues. Well, don't they all? :)

In America, no, not all. We tend to divide our conservatives into two camps: "fiscal conservatives", i.e. the ones that want lower taxes and trust the free market to take care of everything, and "social conservatives", i.e. those who want the evil gays and wimminz to stay in their place, which I believe is "in hiding" and "in the kitchen" respectively. There's obviously a lot of overlap, and most social conservatives are fiscal conservatives and vice versa, but they are different. You'd be talking about social conservatives here.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by ironbite on Today at 09:59:44 am »
The Orange Piss Pot will not have any meaningful legislation passed in his first 100 days.  House is going to delay the vote of FuckYouCare due to not having the votes to pass it.

Ironbite-wonder what he'll brag about on Saturday.
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Religion and Philosophy / Re: Swiss islamists flee to Turkey
« Last post by SomeApe on Today at 09:40:43 am »
Denying platform for Islamic fundamentalists? Well done.
Yup! At least one had some control over it, now they go to Erdogan's New Fundie Paradise where they can do whatever they want.

It's true that the social climate has a lot of islamophobia and unfortunately it makes it easy for them to play the victim here. Complaining about conservative values is obviously and hilariously hypocritical coming from religious fundies. This shit poisons the social climate even further: using progressive language in their propaganda discredits it and confuses the message it tries to convey separating the echo chambers from each other more.
Oh, no, they didn't complain about conservative values! They complained that their own conservative values are used as a reason to suspect them of terrorism.
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Religion and Philosophy / Re: Swiss islamists flee to Turkey
« Last post by SCarpelan on Today at 09:10:52 am »
Denying platform for Islamic fundamentalists? Well done.

It's true that the social climate has a lot of islamophobia and unfortunately it makes it easy for them to play the victim here. Complaining about conservative values is obviously and hilariously hypocritical coming from religious fundies. This shit poisons the social climate even further: using progressive language in their propaganda discredits it and confuses the message it tries to convey separating the echo chambers from each other more.
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Religion and Philosophy / Swiss islamists flee to Turkey
« Last post by SomeApe on Today at 08:46:53 am »
Source: Neue Z├╝rcher Zeitung
28.04.2017 10:54

https://www.nzz.ch/schweiz/islamische-fundamentalisten-izrs-weicht-fuer-konferenz-nach-istanbul-aus-ld.1289313

Translation by me.
Also footnotes and [stuff in these brackets]

Swiss islamists flee to Erdogan

Because of an alleged, through "islamophobia poisoned social climate",  the self proclaimed  Islamischer Zentralrat der Schweiz* holds its "peace conference" abroad - in Turkey.

The controversial Islamische Zentralrat der Schweiz (IZRS)* wanted to hold its "peace conference" in the World Trade Center in Zurich nord on the 6th and 7th of may. The organisation estimated approximately thousand guests, invited were numberous speakers, including controversial figures out of the islamistic milieu. But the Pensionskasse** of Kanton Zurich which owns the desired meeting place intervened and forbid the renting. The IZRS raged and spoke of "breach of contract", which they will counter - but now the organisation has decided on an alternative scenario.

According to a press conference which was convened at short notice in Zurich on friday forenoon, the IZRS adjourns the conference on the next but one weekend to Istanbul. All speakers had confirmed that they would speak in the turkish metropolis as well. "Not a turkish audience will be adressed, but furthermore the muslim and non-muslim public in Switzerland and middle europe." writes the IZRS on its website. For that reason, the whole programm will be streamed on the internet and simultaneously translated to German, they say.

Value-conservatives*** and inner security.

Head of IZRS, Nicolas Blancho, says the reason for the sidestep to Turkey is that there are "justified doubts that there exists any significant social will to put through the constitutional basic rights, independent of race, provenance or religion." He speaks of a "poisoned climate" and sees a tendency towards restricting basic rights especially when dealing with muslims. Value-conservative*** opinions would be enough, he claims, to be suspected of "endangering the inner security".

Blancho points at the decision of the Bundesgericht [federal court] in october 2015. The judges in Lausanne reproved the authorities in Freiburg because they forbid the IZRS holding its annual conference in 2014 at the congress center in Freiburg, thus violating the association's right to assemble.

Relieved by the development is Zurich's security director, Mario Fehr (SP [social democratic party]). "I don't really care where congresses of islamists happen", he says to Radio 1. "The best would probably be if they didn't happen at all. But if they do, then please not in Zurich, but somewhere on this world. Best in Saudi Arabia - but if they go to Turkey, that's ok too."

*"Islamic Central Council of Switzerland"
**pension fund
***didn't know how to translate that. Basically a conservative that cares about traditional values and virtues. Well, don't they all? :)

Please let me know if anything is unclear in the translation.

Edit: Corrected two minor errors
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Society and History / Re: /r/altright has been banned
« Last post by Askold on Today at 08:41:09 am »
Another setback for Nazis. They lost r/pussypass.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AgainstHateSubreddits/comments/6811gg/looks_like_the_top_mod_of_rpussypass_came_back/


Pussypass was originally "merely" filled with misogyny and news stories about women getting light sentences for crimes compared to guys who commit similar crimes. At some point it was taken over by nazis and was one of the more infamous neo-nazi/alt-right reddits. Until just a while ago when apparently the original owner came back to Reddit, saw all the nazis and kicked them out.

We shall wait and see if regular he-man-woman-haters now return to the subreddit.

Nazis on the other hand are complaining and asking around if anyone with a subreddit with lots of subscribers would let them take over. (Why can't they make a subreddit for themselves? Because there aren't that many of them so they prefer to take over existing groups so that their numbers seem highger...)

EDIT: Alternative theory is that this was done by Reddit employees and they are shutting the subreddit due to the massive amount of complaints from the death threats and racism and hate speech it had/caused.
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Politics and Government / Re: Best Political Cartoons
« Last post by chad sexington on Today at 05:31:37 am »
Time for Garrison cartoon - interestingly this is the first time he has portrayed Trump looking at all weak. Bad signs:



Any idea what AB, CZ, and MP on the caps are referring to?
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by dpareja on Today at 03:55:49 am »
BTW if you heard about Trump starting a mini-trade war with Canada over softwood lumber, here's an old video explaining what the issue is

Softwood lumber's been a sticking point between Canada and the US for decades.

But Joe Clark solved it a while back. He invented a potion that makes softwood turn hard.
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Forum Games / Re: Great name for a metal band- the Forum Game.
« Last post by Leopeler on Today at 03:42:01 am »
Can the content you need to explain to me can be added?
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