Chris Koster, Missouri state attorney general, wants to bring back gas chambers

[The Illusive Man]

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The (Missouri) state’s attorney general, Chris Koster, has warned that unless Missouri is allowed by the state supreme court to press ahead quickly with pending executions under its current lethal-injection protocol, its drug supplies will expire. In that case, the state might have to turn to the only other option open to it – the gas chamber.

“Unless the [supreme] court changes its current course, the legislature will soon be compelled to fund statutorily-authorised alternative methods of execution to carry out lawful judgments,” Koster said. Under Missouri law only two forms of execution are permitted: “… by means of the administration of lethal gas or by means of the administration of lethal injection”.

Uh bro, suffocation is not quick and painless. In fact it is the opposite. If you don’t believe me you can go hang yourself.

The administration of propofol (fun fact, propofol was the stuff that killed Michael Jackson) is a part of execution by lethal injection. This chemical is no longer manufactured in the United States by Hospira. The reason why is simple, when your anesthetic is associated with death repeatedly that is bad for business.

"Hospira manufactures this product because it improves or saves lives, and the company markets it solely for use as indicated on the product labeling. The drug is not indicated for capital punishment, and Hospira does not support its use in this procedure," spokesman Daniel M. Rosenberg

Propofol used to be imported from Europe and the UK. But they basically said “stop it you bloody barbarians.”

UK: "This country opposes the death penalty," "we are clear that the state should never be complicit in judiciary executions through the use of British drugs in lethal injections."

Europe via the European Commission: "The decision today contributes to the wider EU efforts to abolish the death penalty worldwide"


Guy, guyz I have the best idea! Let’s make execution “green”! Rope for neck breaking (it is reusable too!), natural lethal injection (ie poison), solar powered electric chairs, ect. Or they could take a page from Utah and go back to firing squads.

“He’s trying to prod the court into dropping its objections and setting execution dates by threatening that Missouri might have to go back to the dark ages if they don’t act soon,” - Richard Dieter of the Death Penalty Information Center

Might? Buddy that has been happening.

[SpaceProg]

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Hitler-- Dammit!

[The Right Honourable Mlle Antéchrist]

Bring back guillotines.

[ironbite]

BURNINGS!

[R. U. Sirius]

Why not hara-kiri? Gas chambers already involve the condemned being directed to breath deeply, so it already involves what is essentially a directed suicide.

[mythbuster43]

Wow, I guess Ken Cuccinelli isn't the looniest state attorney general after all.

[DiscoBerry]

Bring back guillotines.

...And die with class. 

[MadmanJohnson]

DEATH BY BLACK WIDOWS. How about execution via juggernaut?

[Meshakhad]

Can't they just use morphine?

[mellenORL]

Guillotines probably do leave the condemed's brain alive for a good nightmarish half minute till blood loss makes them go unconscious.

Why can't the same procedure used for euthanizing dogs be used on humans? Inject a cocktail of sedative and morphine, wait til they pass out, then inject sodium phenobarbitol. The morphine level needs to be very generous. That said, IMO, about 80 percent of death penalty convictions are unqualified by the crime committed, and with the kind of fuck up stats being brought to life by the woefully underfunded Innocence Project....maybe we need to wait until all those wrongful convictions are cleared up before executing anyone again.

[Witchyjoshy]

Guillotines probably do leave the condemed's brain alive for a good nightmarish half minute till blood loss makes them go unconscious.

Assuming that they don't immediately go unconscious from the shock of having 80% of their body lopped off.

[Askold]

Bring back guillotines.

I've said this before and I will say it again, as far as execution methods go guillotine is a quick and relatively painless way to go and extremely reliable. Even if it is concidered "gruesome" it really is quite humane way to execute someone.

If my opposition to executions was only about the method then I'd be supporting guillotines 100% and pro-death penalty.

...But untill they have a method of ensuring that no innocent people end up on the death row I'm still gonna say no.

[Lithp]

It's difficult to know what being decapitated is like, but I imagine you're pretty much immediately unconscious, or pretty damn close to it. The anxiety leading up to it is a much different story. Also it makes a goddamn mess.

[Cerim Treascair]

Guillotine and firing squad, that's really all we need, dammit.  Ammo's cheap and sharp blades are cheaper!

[Askold]

It's difficult to know what being decapitated is like, but I imagine you're pretty much immediately unconscious, or pretty damn close to it. The anxiety leading up to it is a much different story. Also it makes a goddamn mess.

Open heart surgery makes a mess but that is not a reason to ban it.

I think that the best methods of execution, the one's with the least pain and suffering to the "victim" are guillotine and shooting. Those are also on the top of the list for messy, "violent" and being most likely to get a mob to oppose them. While stuff like lethal injection, (unreliable, horribly wasteful and in some cases long and painful) gas chamber (slow and agonising) and hanging... Well if hanging is done properly it snaps your neck and is a quick way to go, if done wrong it's slow choking to death.

My point is that people oppose the methods that are actually quick and relatively painless while the more horrible ones are deemed acceptable, simply because they don't have blood being spilled.