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Title: Julian Assange allowed to move around, says UN: But is he really?
Post by: Eiki-mun on February 07, 2016, 07:05:34 pm
Let's start out with some nice reading material here:

http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/europe/julian-assange-ruling/index.html (http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/05/europe/julian-assange-ruling/index.html)

Quote from: Article Excerpt
(CNN)WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange declared victory Friday, expressing vindication over a U.N. panel's judgment that the Swedish and UK governments have "arbitrarily detained" him since 2010.

But does this decision mean Assange will become a free man? Or that anything about his status has changed?

Not if you ask Sweden and the United Kingdom. And Assange doesn't appear ready to test them, remaining at the Ecuadorian Embassy in London, where he first sought refuge in 2012.

Assange is wanted in Sweden on rape allegations, and the UK arrested him in 2010. He has said he's afraid that if he leaves the embassy, he could end up being extradited and facing the death penalty in the United States over allegations of revealing government secrets through his site, WikiLeaks.

Obviously there's a link to the ruling itself in the article. For those of you who can't be bothered to read it, I'll sum it up: a UN panel says Julian Assange is being arbitrarily detained by the UK and Sweden, and they gotta let him move around freely. The UK and Sweden pull an Andrew Jackson and say "okay, come and enforce it". Obviously opinion on this is going to be divided, primarily based on whether you think the rape charges Sweden currently has against Assange are legit or not. Me, personally, I don't think they are, because I know Sweden is a US ally and will probably bend over backwards to help us, and the US 99.9% likely wants this guy locked up in Guantanamo getting screws stuck into his kidneys or something. So obviously I side with the UN panel over this, but what do you guys think?
Title: Re: Julian Assange allowed to move around, says UN: But is he really?
Post by: Dakota Bob on February 08, 2016, 07:20:08 am
Too bad the UN has basically fuck all power to enforce anything. We all know Assange is gonna get shanked the second he steps outside.
Title: Re: Julian Assange allowed to move around, says UN: But is he really?
Post by: Eiki-mun on February 08, 2016, 07:47:26 am
Too bad the UN has basically fuck all power to enforce anything. We all know Assange is gonna get shanked the second he steps outside.

Honestly, I think the only reason he hasn't "mysteriously disappeared" already is because if he did, everyone in the world would know exactly who did it, and why.
Title: Re: Julian Assange allowed to move around, says UN: But is he really?
Post by: niam2023 on February 08, 2016, 04:51:30 pm
Yeah - if the United States special forces "disappeared" him in the Ecuadorian Embassy, our country's image across the world would sink so far, I do not think it would be an understatement to compare it to Hitler's Germany's image immediately after attacking Poland.
Title: Re: Julian Assange allowed to move around, says UN: But is he really?
Post by: Sigmaleph on February 08, 2016, 10:20:26 pm
Would anything be gained by disappearing him, anyway? It's not like WikiLeaks will suddenly crumble into dust if he dies.
Title: Re: Julian Assange allowed to move around, says UN: But is he really?
Post by: Sylvana on February 11, 2016, 05:14:08 am
To be honest, it would help a number of other nations quite a bit if they disappeared him. No matter who does the deed, America will be blamed for it.
Title: Re: Julian Assange allowed to move around, says UN: But is he really?
Post by: pyro on February 11, 2016, 12:50:04 pm
Would anything be gained by disappearing him, anyway? It's not like WikiLeaks will suddenly crumble into dust if he dies.

Worse, the key to that gigantic aes file they published would probably be released. That's what it's for, after all.

To be honest, it would help a number of other nations quite a bit if they disappeared him. No matter who does the deed, America will be blamed for it.

Even if he dies in a car crash, or a disease, there will be plenty of conspiracy theories floating around about how the US did it. I'd bet my life's savings on that.