Caerbannog: That I can understand and respect. I recall the facts of what happened at the elementary school, and I will say this: The perp's mom breached her responsibility. She knew her son was mentally ill, so much so that she was about to have him committed. At that moment, those guns needed to be sent elsewhere. Into a storage locker, turned over to law enforcement for safe keeping (cops can be surprisingly accommodating when the catch wind of a public safety concern), put into a safe deposit box at the bank, or even just at a friend's house where they can be well and truly locked away.
As I said in an earlier thread, in all fairness to her, not many parents expect to be shot in the head in their sleep by their own kids. That doesn't change the fact that she saw him as a genuine danger to himself and others. Guns aren't toys. Every gun owner on this forum understands that one simple truth. There is a responsibility with the gun that demands that the gun be respected, and by the same token, the safety of all those around the owner must be respected as well. I keep my guns locked up for a very good reason.
Here's the point, Caerbannog: I dare say that proper firearm education and training will save a hell of a lot more lives than any assault weapons ban or that bullet limit. Keep the registration, keep the licensing, but at least have the common courtesy to do some damned homework before you make those kind of laws so good responsible people don't get dicked over because you wanna score some brownie points with voters.
If I had to make a limit? 10, at least, and 15 would work best. Good eye, Sylvana. The M1911 only has an 8-round clip.
As for the Franklin quote, even if it is a discussion for another thread: Are we really safer or more free with the "PATRIOT" Act? Or the TSA? Or with the DHS? I say we're not. And if anything, the poor handling of those agencies make Ben Franklin's quote all the more relevant.
"Those who trade liberty for a little temporary security deserve neither and will lose both."
