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I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« on: March 31, 2013, 01:58:40 pm »
So this thread is meant to discuss how the church has lost its way.  Seriously, Jesus was a huge rebel, but the church today is all about conformity and blind loyalty.  So yeah.  Discuss!
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2013, 05:34:25 pm »
I don't know I read some where that a lot of Christians seem to follow the teachings of Paul instead of Jesus nowadays.
I'm not really an expert of what Paul taught but from what I heard it was sort of different than what Jesus taught.
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2013, 07:27:41 pm »
Many don't realize that Muslims are in the same "boat" as Jews and Christians. Not that Muslims shouldn't be treated like people if they were in a completely isolated religion.

A lot of Christians don't realize how they aren't "loving the sinner, hating the sin". Seriously, going on about how gays are serial rapist pedophiles and abominations to God is bad, but adding the "Hate the sin, love the sinner" is like the cherry on the hate sundae.
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2013, 07:37:55 pm »
Quote from: Auggziliary on March 31, 2013, 07:27:41 pm
Many don't realize that Muslims are in the same "boat" as Jews and Christians. Not that Muslims shouldn't be treated like people if they were in a completely isolated religion.

A lot of Christians don't realize how they aren't "loving the sinner, hating the sin". Seriously, going on about how gays are serial rapist pedophiles and abominations to God is bad, but adding the "Hate the sin, love the sinner" is like the cherry on the hate sundae.

Not to go off topic, but "pedophile" is one of the laziest slurs ever.  It's a zero effort way to "attack" someone.
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2013, 07:42:14 pm »
Quote from: Id82 on March 31, 2013, 05:34:25 pm
I don't know I read some where that a lot of Christians seem to follow the teachings of Paul instead of Jesus nowadays.
I'm not really an expert of what Paul taught but from what I heard it was sort of different than what Jesus taught.

I think Paul is the one that really had a hate-on for sex.  He considered any kind of sex ugly and sinful, even sex between married couples.
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2013, 08:14:33 pm »
A clear sign of someone who had never been laid and was angry at everyone who had.
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2013, 12:22:19 am »
Or a child molester trying to hid his own sins.
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2013, 02:54:18 am »
I think one of the main ways that the church has lost its way is that they worship the Bible more than God.  You can't get into Heaven unless you believe that the Bible is 100% true.  (I got to hear that at my mum's Funeral.  Yay.  But still the Pastor is a nice man, and the congregation did set me up with a LOT of food.)  But Jesus did not promise a Bible.  He promised Salvation.  He is the Way, not blindly believing a book.  A lot of this thought comes from Commandments of Men.  A blog by a Christian who is against the dominionism of modern Christianity.
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2013, 02:00:35 pm »
In regards to Christian scriptures, just give me the Four Gospels, that's all.

For those who go on about cherrypicking, like those above me said, it's stupid to worship a book.

Also, The Bible is an ANTHOLOGY of a bunch of completely different & separate books. That's what people, be they conservative, moderate or liberal,  forget.

Not all scriptures are created equal. Some scriptures are pure crapola yanked out of the butts of sociopathic bigshots who want to control people.

In the big scheme of things, however, you can't limit The Higher Power, whatever he/she/it is, to a human-made document. It's stupid.

I think that folks like Wiccans & NeoPagans have the right idea, scriptures aren't necessary, Nature is our scripture!
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2013, 02:05:44 pm »
Quote from: SpukiKitty on April 01, 2013, 02:00:35 pm
In regards to Christian scriptures, just give me the Four Gospels, that's all.

I'll just take the Jefferson Bible.
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2013, 02:09:47 pm »
Quote from: dpareja on April 01, 2013, 02:05:44 pm
Quote from: SpukiKitty on April 01, 2013, 02:00:35 pm
In regards to Christian scriptures, just give me the Four Gospels, that's all.

I'll just take the Jefferson Bible.

Heck, that's fine, too!
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2013, 06:07:55 pm »
Book of Job is always good too.
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2013, 06:09:45 pm »
Quote from: davedan on April 01, 2013, 06:07:55 pm
Book of Job is always good too.

About how God will be a complete dick just to win a bet?

Ecclesiastes is another good one, and there's always the Song of Songs.
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2013, 06:15:27 pm »
This is kinda off topic, but when I first heard the story of Moses, I got super pissed at God because he required lamb's blood for marking the doors. I mean, killing lambs is really unnecessary. I thought that if he already knew all his children he would know which ones not to kill.
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Re: I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians; they're not very Christlike.
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2013, 09:32:07 pm »
Quote from: Auggziliary on April 01, 2013, 06:15:27 pm
This is kinda off topic, but when I first heard the story of Moses, I got super pissed at God because he required lamb's blood for marking the doors. I mean, killing lambs is really unnecessary. I thought that if he already knew all his children he would know which ones not to kill.

Well the way I heard it, God, himself wasn't bringing the plague.  It was something else, that needed the lambs' blood to tell which door was which.  Cause it was kinda stupid.
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