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Offline rageaholic

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Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« on: April 18, 2014, 10:18:31 pm »
13 years after the fact.

The state screwed up someone and he was never in jail when he was supposed to be.  During that time, he was a model citizen and now they want to put him back in jail because of their screw up. 

The consensus in the comments seems to be that he should have community service, but not go back to jail as it would be counter productive.  I agree.  You'd have to follow some extreme black and white reasoning to justify sending him back to jail.  Though at least one commentor doesn't see it that way.

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He commited a crime and didn't serve the penalty. He could have found a cure for cancer, ended world hunger, won The Nobel Peace Prize and have been sainted by the pope but he still owes 13 years in prison.

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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2014, 10:23:47 pm »
I agree, community service would be much better.

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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2014, 08:46:03 am »
Corrected himself without a correctional facility?  I'm sure that'll make some people's heads explode violently.
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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2014, 12:04:30 pm »
Yeah, I'd say if he was a model citizen afterwards, then it's proof that he's become a better person.
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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2014, 12:13:42 pm »
Yeah, I'd say if he was a model citizen afterwards, then it's proof that he's become a better person.

DON'T MATTER! HE DONE THE CRIME, HE MUST DO THE TIME! WHARGARRBL!

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Yeah, incarcerating this guy is stupid. Hopefully a judge will look at this case and commute the sentence.
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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2014, 12:50:56 pm »
Don't worry guys, it's not as if prisons has a reputation for screwing people up, releasing people that are MORE likely to commit more crimes than when they went in...right, guys?

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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2014, 02:07:02 pm »
Don't worry guys, it's not as if prisons has a reputation for screwing people up, releasing people that are MORE likely to commit more crimes than when they went in...right, guys?

I remember reading a cracked article written by a supposed former security guard that explained how a kid who was put in there for stealing his parents' car, even though the parents just wanted him to be held overnight to scare him, was charged with Grand Theft Auto (or something like that).  He ended up learning how to REALLY steal cars from the other inmates.
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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2014, 02:38:02 pm »
Yeah, I'd say if he was a model citizen afterwards, then it's proof that he's become a better person.

DON'T MATTER! HE DONE THE CRIME, HE MUST DO THE TIME! WHARGARRBL!

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Yeah, incarcerating this guy is stupid. Hopefully a judge will look at this case and commute the sentence.

Unfortunately, there are those who actually think like that.  Black and white thinking at it's worst. 

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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2014, 03:18:30 pm »
Basically, they feel like people "owe a debt to society" if they commit a crime. It's about punishment, rather than rehabilitation. It's a sort of Pavlovian thinking, that you metaphorically give electric shocks to the guy when he does something bad and it scares him away from doing it again. When it's pointed out that our prisoners tend to be traumatized by their experiences (if they don't die or get murdered in there) and are promptly thrust back into the world with fewer rights and a tainted reputation that makes it even harder for them to live an honest life, the usual response is....nothing. They really don't have a good argument that doesn't start with "in my opinion."
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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2014, 04:13:15 pm »
^

Yeah, that's the argument I hear.  They compare it to making a car payment, but conveiniently ignore the fact that with car payments, one party pays, and the other receives.  By putting this man back in prison, someone is paying, but no one is recieving anything (not counting the prisons).  Yet another stupid analogy.

The idiot I quoted in the comments is especially infuriating because he fails to understand this concept, instead thinking within a small reward/punishment box.  No matter how wise and theoretical he tries to sound, he's still an idiot.  (reminds me of a Christian apologist).  And speaking of fundies...

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Paul Mooney, Red Foxx, Eddie Murphy or Robin Williams...

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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2014, 04:52:17 pm »
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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2014, 08:32:19 pm »
Young turks did a video on this.  I actually think Cenk made a stupid argument by comparing it to rape.  It wasn't.  More stupid comments.

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Ya go ahead support the armed robber, dumbass. In my world, two shots to the back of his head. end of story. 

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Fines and community outreach is not a good example to set for criminals. He robbed someone with a GUN, BB or not the victim thought it was a gun which is enough for me.

He needs jail time, he's committed a crime everyday of his 13 year spree, evading the police. Good thing is most people are smart individuals and know that you cannot just hide from your consequences. He was convicted to 13 years in prison and it's about time he started doing TIME.

What part of "THE FUCKING SYSTEM SCREWED UP" don't these idiots understand?  I'm so sick of people making excuses for the penal system when they so obviously fuck up.

I got to stop reading comments on this because it's making me crazy.  I don't know how any intelligent person can think this guy needs to go back to jail. 

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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2014, 09:58:58 pm »
How obvious is it that the same commenters would be supporting the guy if he wasn't black?
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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2014, 10:55:35 pm »
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Re: Man sent to jail for armed robbery...
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2014, 10:59:11 pm »
But surely, if we don't send him to prison, then we're telling criminals that all they have to do to avoid jail is to stop committing crimes and become productive members of society!

Wait...

(Also: if this wasn't an actual case, I would have thought it was a thought experiment a philosopher came up with to illustrate the difference between deontological and consequentialist ethics)
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