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Putin Trolls United States So Hard
« on: September 12, 2013, 10:43:51 pm »
http://news.yahoo.com/washington-lawmakers-furious-after-putin-opinion-piece-in-the-new-york-times-165601848.html

I have to say, this time, I agree with Putin. I don't think that a view of exceptionalism for one group above others is a good idea.

Have to say, when its foreign policy, this Russian dude is amazingly competent. While I take issue with the Anti-Gay Bill, well, I have to applaud him for this most delicious trolling. Lets see if he can make half of Congress suffer anger induced aneurysms.
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Re: Putin Trolls United States So Hard
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2013, 01:49:22 am »
Putin is full of shit regarding various facts, his government's interests in the conflict, and his reasons for penning the article (the aura of false benevolence in the piece is palpable; my eyes practically rolled out of my skull when he started pontificating about his humble desire to preserve UN law), but regardless of his intent, he's correct about military action in Syria being short-sighted and American exceptionalism being bullshit.
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Re: Putin Trolls United States So Hard
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2013, 02:03:33 am »
While I'm not defending the US's official position on Syria, I would really like to take this letter and rewrite it as close as possible to point out Putin's numerous own violation of International law.

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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2013, 02:22:54 am »


Yeah, but they're different, so fuck 'em.

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Re: Putin Trolls United States So Hard
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2013, 02:48:27 am »
While I'm not defending the US's official position on Syria, I would really like to take this letter and rewrite it as close as possible to point out Putin's numerous own violation of International law.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/09/12/vladimir-putins-new-york-times-op-ed-annotated-and-fact-checked/

It's long, but definitely worth the read.
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Re: Putin Trolls United States So Hard
« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2013, 03:39:21 am »
Putin is playing a political game here. There is no doubt about that.

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Re: Putin Trolls United States So Hard
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2013, 04:19:11 am »
Putin isn't as competent as he appears.
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Re: Putin Trolls United States So Hard
« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2013, 06:54:16 am »
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Unless you're an LGBT individual, apparently.

Is Putin just fucking with us at this point?

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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2013, 02:37:41 pm »
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We are all different, but when we ask for the Lord’s blessings, we must not forget that God created us equal.

Unless you're an LGBT individual, apparently.

Is Putin just fucking with us at this point?

I thought it was determined he was doing just that quite some time ago.
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Re: Putin Trolls United States So Hard
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2013, 04:18:44 pm »
I love the false claim that it was the rebels who used chemical weapons. Rather hard for them to use weapons they don't have access to. Putin also overlooks that the Assad regime is being supported by Hezbollah while portraying all the rebels as terrorists.

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Re: Putin Trolls United States So Hard
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2013, 08:18:08 pm »
While I'm not defending the US's official position on Syria, I would really like to take this letter and rewrite it as close as possible to point out Putin's numerous own violation of International law.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/09/12/vladimir-putins-new-york-times-op-ed-annotated-and-fact-checked/

It's long, but definitely worth the read.
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Re: Putin Trolls United States So Hard
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2013, 11:23:22 pm »
The irony of Russia pulling this peace card considering they supported breakaway rebels in the Georgia. OR DID WE FORGET ABOUT THAT, MR. PUTIN?
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Re: Putin Trolls United States So Hard
« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2013, 11:59:27 pm »
The irony of Russia pulling this peace card considering they supported breakaway rebels in the Georgia. OR DID WE FORGET ABOUT THAT, MR. PUTIN?

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Re: Putin Trolls United States So Hard
« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2013, 12:15:48 am »
Or he just really felt the need to stick his finger in the eye of America's politicians, and going by some of the delectible reactions, he succeeded.

He may be a bigoted person, but damn if he's not good at inducing froth at the mouth rage in politicians. You know what makes me want to vomit? The spineless left wing that stands back and lets idiots like O'Reilly and Hannity spew their bullshit across the media with nary a response.

I can at least say, with all his faults and disturbing traits in mind, he is very good at making Americans look bad in the foreign policy arena.

It is fairly obvious he is not sincere about doing this for the sake of peace, and that he's probably at least mildly sociopathic, doing all of this to further his own reputation and bolster the strong Russian position in Eastern Europe and the Middle East by averting another war with the United States. Its ugly, its damn evil (I could learn a thing or two from him), but its damn smart.

Were I the Russian President, I would've included:

* "American Exceptionalism is the same mentality that led the American Government to decide it can legislate morality and dictate what is acceptable in the world at large. America doesn't like your government? They'll send in the CIA or the Army to kill your leader and make a dictator take his place. America wants your oil? They'll say Saddam Hussein has weapons of mass destruction and invade and destabilize your country. They are exceptional, they are above others, thus they can do as they please...a truly disgusting position."

* "They claim that there is a red line drawn about chemical weapons. This same America that had its little Contra Scandal, its Fast and Furious Scandal, and selling weapons to a little group in Afghanistan they decided later they didn't like. America, you have no right to draw ANY red lines."

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