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Title: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Skybison on October 08, 2017, 05:03:19 pm
So a Sovereign Citizen was arrested for trying to sell meth to a cop, and is now looking at five years in prison for drug and weapons charges.  In court he tried the usual bullshit of claiming minor changes of the spelling of his name makes him immune to the law, but added a new twist: he denied that he was person, instead saying he was legally "some sort of agricultural product" and thus not subject to US law.

http://loweringthebar.net/2017/10/judge-rejects-ag-product-claim.html

The Judge rejected this argument.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: niam2023 on October 08, 2017, 05:53:58 pm
...something tells me in addition to selling a product, he was also using it.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Art Vandelay on October 08, 2017, 11:13:12 pm
he denied that he was person, instead saying he was legally "some sort of agricultural product"
Yeah, that only works if you're black.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Askold on October 09, 2017, 01:22:15 am
he denied that he was person, instead saying he was legally "some sort of agricultural product"
Yeah, that only works if you're black.

"Agricultural TOOL." If you're going to make a horrible joke, at least make it correctly.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Art Vandelay on October 09, 2017, 02:13:23 am
he denied that he was person, instead saying he was legally "some sort of agricultural product"
Yeah, that only works if you're black.

"Agricultural TOOL." If you're going to make a horrible joke, at least make it correctly.

Strictly speaking, they're both. At least second generation onwards.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Lana Reverse on October 09, 2017, 10:50:48 am
It never fails. Every time I think Sovereign Citizens can't get any crazier, somebody lowers the bar.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: ironbite on October 09, 2017, 03:44:44 pm
*faceclaws*

Ironbite-I can't even....*sips pumpkin spice latte*
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 09, 2017, 04:18:04 pm
Huh, didn't know Ironbite was a basic bitch.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: davedan on October 09, 2017, 06:07:32 pm
I still haven't figured out what the fuck is pumpkin spice? Why do Americans put it in the brown dogwater they call coffee?
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: dpareja on October 09, 2017, 06:10:31 pm
I still haven't figured out what the fuck is pumpkin spice? Why do Americans put it in the brown dogwater they call coffee?

It's something coffee-drinkers over here use to hide the fact that their coffee is brown dogwater.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 09, 2017, 06:42:20 pm
It doesn't even do anything good for the coffee.  I've heard varying reports that its taste ranges anywhere from vaguely pumpkin flavoured garbage to dish soap.

Also, don't you upside-down crackers have pumpkin pie, or have the drop bears, oppressive climate, and baby-eating dingos fried your brains?
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: dpareja on October 09, 2017, 06:51:59 pm
Unless you really like pie crust for some reason, try pumpkin pudding.

It's basically the filling of pumpkin pie without the crust.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: davedan on October 09, 2017, 08:24:25 pm
I have seen pumpkin pie but it's not something we do much of. We prefer our pies with meat (or fruit at Christmas but we still call them mince pies). We have roast pumpkin, and pumpkin soup and even pumpkin gnochhi if you are lucky. We still don't have pumpkin spice
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 09, 2017, 09:48:03 pm
Pumpkin spice makes pumpkin pie, cracker; its a critical ingredient, like eggs for cake or saffron for paella.  Also, you upside-down Aussies are crazy, but with all the killer widlife and bogans and whatnot, I'm not surprised.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: davedan on October 09, 2017, 09:50:20 pm
Don't you make pumpkin pie with fucking pumpkin. While the wildlife might be dangerous at least we get a decent coffee to wake ourselves up to run away from it.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: dpareja on October 10, 2017, 12:07:32 am
Don't you make pumpkin pie with fucking pumpkin. While the wildlife might be dangerous at least we get a decent coffee to wake ourselves up to run away from it.

'Muricans don't need no damn good coffee, all we need our ARE GUNZ to shoot at stuff, man!
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Skybison on October 10, 2017, 12:15:43 am
I can't stand Pumpkin Pie because my family always made it with butternut squash instead, and trust me it tastes way better.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Art Vandelay on October 10, 2017, 12:24:18 am
I would just like to chime in to say that pumpkin flavoured coffee sounds absolutely rancid. I can't imagine how that ever caught on.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 10, 2017, 10:14:12 am
Pumpkin and pumpkin spice, you pleb.  Also, what's this about coffee?  With the wonder that is the internet, I'm surprised you're even trying to pull a fast one with that; you can order the good shit in bulk, if you wanted to, and have it sent most anywhere on the planet, because going to shops is for chumps.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Art Vandelay on October 10, 2017, 10:28:56 am
Pumpkin and pumpkin spice, you pleb.
Are you saying that my assumption that pumpkin spice is called pumpkin spice because it at least somewhat tastes like pumpkin is incorrect?
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 10, 2017, 11:15:34 am
It does, but it is also for enhancing the natural flavour of pumpkin.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Art Vandelay on October 10, 2017, 11:19:37 am
Well then, I feel like my point on pumpkin flavoured coffee still stands.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 10, 2017, 11:21:25 am
Oh, it absolutely does; pumpkin spice lattes are garbage and an abomination unto coffee.  That was never up for debate.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: davedan on October 10, 2017, 06:05:19 pm
Pumpkin and pumpkin spice, you pleb.  Also, what's this about coffee?  With the wonder that is the internet, I'm surprised you're even trying to pull a fast one with that; you can order the good shit in bulk, if you wanted to, and have it sent most anywhere on the planet, because going to shops is for chumps.

The thing about coffee though isn't just the quality of the beans. It's what you do with them after. Don't get me wrong good beans are necessary for good coffee but not sufficient. The US could have the best beans in the world but if you're going to run them through a drip filter why fucking bother. A well made coffee, strong but not bitter with a beautiful crema on the top is a thing of beauty and a joy forever. Even if the cafe has a good machine, it's not a fucking nespresso you still need to know how to drive that puppy.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Svata on October 10, 2017, 06:12:29 pm
Presented without comment. A Coffee Adventure. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVMKpvTJyEA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVMKpvTJyEA)
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 10, 2017, 06:48:14 pm
Pumpkin and pumpkin spice, you pleb.  Also, what's this about coffee?  With the wonder that is the internet, I'm surprised you're even trying to pull a fast one with that; you can order the good shit in bulk, if you wanted to, and have it sent most anywhere on the planet, because going to shops is for chumps.

The thing about coffee though isn't just the quality of the beans. It's what you do with them after. Don't get me wrong good beans are necessary for good coffee but not sufficient. The US could have the best beans in the world but if you're going to run them through a drip filter why fucking bother. A well made coffee, strong but not bitter with a beautiful crema on the top is a thing of beauty and a joy forever. Even if the cafe has a good machine, it's not a fucking nespresso you still need to know how to drive that puppy.

...Because I totally can't order a French press for less than $20 (https://www.amazon.com/Bodum-BRAZIL-Coffee-Maker-French/dp/B000KEM4TQ/ref=sr_1_8?s=kitchen&ie=UTF8&qid=1507675355&sr=1-8&keywords=french+press), or a Japanese coffee siphon for around $40 (https://www.amazon.com/Coffee-Master-5-Cup-Syphon-Vacuum/dp/B00R0YDIAS/ref=sr_1_4?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1507675454&sr=1-4&keywords=japanese+coffee+siphon).

Though, I'll give ya that coffee shop coffee is always drip-made...and is usually crap.  Of course, anyone that thinks that Starbucks coffee is representative of how coffee should be is a knobend that shouldn't be left around the sweet, black gold that is the most loving form of caffeine outside the pure, anhydrous compound, itself.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: davedan on October 10, 2017, 07:02:19 pm
The fact that you think a plunger coffee is a good substitute for proper coffee is indicative of the crap state of coffee in your country.

If you don't have access to proper coffee the next best thing is not a plunger but is this: (http://www.kitchenstuffplus.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/650x/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/5/3/53712_1_laila_moka_aluminum_stovetop_espresso_maker_ver1_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Sigmaleph on October 10, 2017, 09:16:39 pm
coffee is just a circuitous way to deliver caffeine
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: davedan on October 10, 2017, 09:35:27 pm
If that were true no-doze would be more popular than coffee. also don't make me come and slap you
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 10, 2017, 09:54:31 pm
If its good enough for Gordon fucking Ramsay, its good enough for me.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: davedan on October 10, 2017, 10:17:02 pm
Gordon Ramsay can lick the sweat off my balls
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Art Vandelay on October 10, 2017, 10:56:53 pm
Then he'll tell you that your balls a raw, the presentation is hideous and there's not an ounce of seasoning anywhere. Come on, it's embarrassing you fucking donkey.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: Svata on October 10, 2017, 11:38:26 pm
The fact that you think a plunger coffee is a good substitute for proper coffee is indicative of the crap state of coffee in your country.

If you don't have access to proper coffee the next best thing is not a plunger but is this:


Fine. I'll bite. What's "proper coffee"?
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: davedan on October 10, 2017, 11:40:49 pm
Then he'll tell you that your balls a raw, the presentation is hideous and there's not an ounce of seasoning anywhere. Come on, it's embarrassing you fucking donkey.

While they are raw - they are well, perhaps over seasoned.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: RavynousHunter on October 11, 2017, 09:32:28 am
Of course, there's a better than even chance that he'd smash them in his rage.  I'd be careful, the man's built like a brick shithouse.
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: ironbite on October 11, 2017, 05:25:37 pm
Then you just gotta lock him in a cage,
maybe sob in a rage
The Tell Tale Heart Beats soft in it's grave
While this jerk just beats off on a page!
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: davedan on October 11, 2017, 06:23:06 pm
Ravy - but that's not my fetish

Ibbles - are you ok? Is that a paean to those brave souls who still jerk off to porno mags and not the internet?
Title: Re: Sovereign Citizen aren't people according to Sovereign Citizen
Post by: ironbite on October 11, 2017, 06:26:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56R3hU-fWZY