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Yep, because apparently if you ban gay men and women from marrying, they'll all have sex with the opposite and make tons of white babies!  ::)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05/02/wife-of-nc-gop-senator-says-banning-same-sex-marriage-about-protecting-white-race/

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Jodie Brunstetter is the wife of Republican Senator Peter Brunstetter, the man who authored Amendment 1 in North Carolina, which if approved by the people, would ban same-sex marriage via the state Constitution. On Tuesday during early voting at the Forsyth County Government Center in downtown Winston-Salem, Chad Nance, a freelance journalist, reports that Jodie Brunstetter allegedly told a group of opponents of the Amendment that banning same-sex marriage is about protecting the Caucasian race and making sure that white people reproduce to keep the balance of power tipped in their favor.

An African-American poll worker known only as ‘Michael’ first reported the incident to Nance and others also came forward to tell what they heard. According to Nance, “During the conversation, Ms. Brunstetter said her husband was the architect of Amendment 1, and one of the reasons he wrote it was to protect the Caucasian race. She said Caucasians or whites created this country. We wrote the Constitution. This is about protecting the Constitution. There already is a law on the books against same-sex marriage, but this protects the Constitution from activist judges.”

Funny how they complain about activist judges when it suits them. But on another note, it kinda reveal a lot about the nature of LGBT discourse in mainstream media and politics. Just like NOM's race baiting, these anti-gay people seem to ignore the fact that LGBT people of color exists. They really think gay = white. Personally, I'd like to see more queer people of color being represented in the fight for gay rights.
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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2012, 04:53:15 pm »
I nominate this news story for the Insane Troll Logic award.
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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2012, 05:30:16 pm »
There's a really big hole in the "state needs to encourage reproduction" argument. Namely, that banning gay marriage will NOT get gays to marry people of the opposite sex and have babies. Otherwise, THEY WOULD BE DOING SO NOW! Instead, if they cannot marry the person they love, they simply live as an unmarried couple.
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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2012, 05:38:24 pm »
.....why should the state be encouraging people to reproduce?  I mean...we're already in a population overload, why do we need more babies?

Ironbite-the state needs to get the fuck out of the bedroom.

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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2012, 05:49:40 pm »
.....why should the state be encouraging people to reproduce?  I mean...we're already in a population overload, why do we need more babies?

I could understand doing this in a country where population is declining.  Of course, banning gay marriage is not actually going to increase fertility rates, there are better policies for doing that.  I don't mean banning contraception or abortion, but rather through things like tax incentives, better insurance coverage for prenatal/neonatal/pediatric medicine, etc.

But again, that has little to do with what OP is describing.
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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2012, 05:59:04 pm »
Hmm, well, a state wanting to encourage reproduction of their preferred race. This does sound familiar.
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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2012, 06:15:50 pm »
Gee, SSM opponents, I thought you said that gay couples marrying wasn't like interracial marriage at all!
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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2012, 06:27:10 pm »

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05/02/wife-of-nc-gop-senator-says-banning-same-sex-marriage-about-protecting-white-race/

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Jodie Brunstetter allegedly told a group of opponents of the Amendment that banning same-sex marriage is about protecting the Caucasian race and making sure that white people reproduce to keep the balance of power tipped in their favor.
 

'Oops did I say that out loud?' Hey, this is the first logical (albeit racist) anti-gay marriage argument I've heard.

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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2012, 07:34:13 pm »
Yep, because apparently if you ban gay men and women from marrying, they'll all have sex with the opposite and make tons of white babies!  ::)

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/05/02/wife-of-nc-gop-senator-says-banning-same-sex-marriage-about-protecting-white-race/

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Jodie Brunstetter is the wife of Republican Senator Peter Brunstetter, the man who authored Amendment 1 in North Carolina, which if approved by the people, would ban same-sex marriage via the state Constitution. On Tuesday during early voting at the Forsyth County Government Center in downtown Winston-Salem, Chad Nance, a freelance journalist, reports that Jodie Brunstetter allegedly told a group of opponents of the Amendment that banning same-sex marriage is about protecting the Caucasian race and making sure that white people reproduce to keep the balance of power tipped in their favor.

An African-American poll worker known only as ‘Michael’ first reported the incident to Nance and others also came forward to tell what they heard. According to Nance, “During the conversation, Ms. Brunstetter said her husband was the architect of Amendment 1, and one of the reasons he wrote it was to protect the Caucasian race. She said Caucasians or whites created this country. We wrote the Constitution. This is about protecting the Constitution. There already is a law on the books against same-sex marriage, but this protects the Constitution from activist judges.”

Funny how they complain about activist judges when it suits them. But on another note, it kinda reveal a lot about the nature of LGBT discourse in mainstream media and politics. Just like NOM's race baiting, these anti-gay people seem to ignore the fact that LGBT people of color exists. They really think gay = white. Personally, I'd like to see more queer people of color being represented in the fight for gay rights.

Assuming this is for real (yes even equality minded liberals can do the "pious lie" thing and this still looks like a he said/she said thing).. I have to wonder how it would go along with this from NOM..

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The strategic goal of this project is to drive a wedge between gays and blacks—two key Democratic constituencies. Find, equip, energize and connect African American spokespeople for marriage; develop a media campaign around their objections to gay marriage as a civil right; provoke the gay marriage base into responding by denouncing these spokesmen and women as bigots. No politician wants to take up and push an issue that splits the base of the party. Fanning the hostility raised in the wake of Prop 8 is key to raising the costs of pushing gay marriage to its advocates and persuading the movement’s allies that advocates are unacceptably overreaching on this issue.

http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/03/27/452547/inside-noms-strategy-race-wedging-black-and-latino-voters-against-marriage-equality/
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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2012, 03:59:21 am »
Just like NOM's race baiting, these anti-gay people seem to ignore the fact that LGBT people of color exists. They really think gay = white. Personally, I'd like to see more queer people of color being represented in the fight for gay rights.

I am not too sure about America's demographics on this, but in many non white cultures being gay is vilified to such an extent that gay people of colour either are in Narnia or possibly dead. In South Africa where gay marriage is legal, many blacks are afraid to come out because of how their family will completely disown them and their community would probably attack them and possibly even rape them, and probably kill them. Racial cultures deal with homosexuality differently, and while I am sure its nowhere near as bad in America as it is here in Africa, culture still plays a large role. A lot of the non white cultures are a lot closer knit than white cultures and the rejection by family and friends would be more devastating for them.

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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2012, 10:32:09 am »
This is very simple: If we outlaw homosexuality, then all homosexuals become straight because they can no longer be gay. This is just like we got rid of all murders, robberies, drugs, digital piracy and bagpipes by making laws against them.


Seriously though, this is not only racist but also really REALLY stupid.
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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2012, 10:57:11 am »
I suppose they could also argue that if gay marriage is legalized, straight people will start turning gay.

It's ultimately tied to the ridiculous fundie view that homosexuality is a choice and everyone is potentially susceptible to becoming gay.

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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2012, 12:21:21 pm »
I thought the answer to saving the white race would be to ban miscegenation like those racist "realists" say.

Besides, it's not like same sex couples can't reproduce. Every heard of IVF?
I'd be more sympathetic if people here didn't act like they knew what they were saying when they were saying something very much wrong.

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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2012, 04:46:15 pm »
Just like NOM's race baiting, these anti-gay people seem to ignore the fact that LGBT people of color exists. They really think gay = white. Personally, I'd like to see more queer people of color being represented in the fight for gay rights.

I am not too sure about America's demographics on this, but in many non white cultures being gay is vilified to such an extent that gay people of colour either are in Narnia or possibly dead. In South Africa where gay marriage is legal, many blacks are afraid to come out because of how their family will completely disown them and their community would probably attack them and possibly even rape them, and probably kill them. Racial cultures deal with homosexuality differently, and while I am sure its nowhere near as bad in America as it is here in Africa, culture still plays a large role. A lot of the non white cultures are a lot closer knit than white cultures and the rejection by family and friends would be more devastating for them.

The thing about that is that some of those non-White culture had homophobia ingrained into their culture by Western colonists. The Pacific Islanders comes to mind; early studies shows that they were much more opened to fluid sexuality than Westerners at the time, but when the missionaries gained power, it reversed.

That aside, the differing narratives that you mentioned (and the fact that there are racial privileges in the LGBT community) is why it's important for queer people of color voices to be heard and to be represented in the LGBT community. Their struggles can be taken into account when discussing LGBT politics. It would also prevent blatant race baiting like what NOM did.
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Re: Gay marriage opponents: "It's about protecting the White race"
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