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Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« on: August 28, 2014, 10:44:52 pm »
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-28958365

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Four male college students at the North Carolina State University are developing a new kind of nail polish that changes colour in the presence of date-rape drugs, like GHB and Rohypnol.

The goal of their company, Undercover Colors, is "to invent technologies that empower women to protect themselves," specifically against sexual assault, they said on their Facebook Page.

"With our nail polish, any woman will be empowered to discreetly ensure her safety by simply stirring her drink with her finger," they said. "If her nail polish changes colour, she'll know that something is wrong."

Undercover Colors initially garnered praise, with hundreds of thousands of likes and shares across Facebook and Twitter.

"There are already bulky devices that can be used to test drinks for date rape drugs," writes Adam Clark Estes for Gizmodo .

"But it's not necessarily easy to carry these things around on a night out and whip them out at bars."

However, the inevitable internet backlash came from a surprising source - anti-rape advocates.

"I'm appreciative that young men like want to curb sexual assault, but anything that puts the onus on women to 'discreetly' keep from being raped misses the point," writes Jessica Valenti for the Guardian.

"We should be trying to stop rape, not just individually avoid it."

Valenti argues that promoting products like Undercover Colors is not only ineffective, but also can lead to "victim-blaming," if women don't take all the suggested precautions.
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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2014, 10:54:47 pm »
Honestly, if this nail polish is legit? That's pretty fucking clever.
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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2014, 11:39:19 pm »
There's nothing wrong with trying to prevent rape on an individual level.

Yes, society places to much pressure on women to protect themselves and not society as a whole to protect people, but that doesn't mean giving people anti-rape stuff is bad.
 

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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2014, 11:41:15 pm »
There's nothing wrong with trying to prevent rape on an individual level.

Yes, society places to much pressure on women to protect themselves and not society as a whole to protect people, but that doesn't mean giving people anti-rape stuff is bad.
Unfortunately, there are certain people who don't see the difference.

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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2014, 12:12:13 am »
Basically, this is Radfems going - "NO MEN R BAD WHY U NO DO OUR FEMINISM?"
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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2014, 12:34:40 am »
Uh.  Okay.

It's one thing to say "It's your fault for getting raped, you should have worn more clothes and screamed louder."

It's another to say "Look, there's bad people out there, here's a barbed female condom you can use, and some fingernail polish that reacts to the chemical commonly used to drug women."

The first one?  Bad and putting the onus of rape on women.

The second one? GOOD, and empowering women to fight against their would-be rapists.
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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2014, 04:00:29 am »
So if we take Miss Valenti at her word, and listen to her, clearly the best course of action is to take away all tools that women currently have to fight rape, refuse to allow them any new ones, and then hope that somehow, no man will ever rape again.

I wish I could live in a fantasy world like she clearly does.
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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2014, 07:14:15 am »
Teach men not to rape? I'm pretty sure the actual rapists are the ones who know it's bad, but do so anyway.

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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2014, 10:27:27 am »
Teach men not to rape? I'm pretty sure the actual rapists are the ones who know it's bad, but do so anyway.
Yeah, those who rape strangers probably usually do but not all rapists fall into that category. Those who rape people they know and who trust them don't even necessarily realize they are committing a rape. That's where teaching people about what constitutes a consent to having sex can help the issue.

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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2014, 11:43:05 am »
Teach men not to rape? I'm pretty sure the actual rapists are the ones who know it's bad, but do so anyway.
Yeah, those who rape strangers probably usually do but not all rapists fall into that category. Those who rape people they know and who trust them don't even necessarily realize they are committing a rape. That's where teaching people about what constitutes a consent to having sex can help the issue.
I suppose this counts as a source:http://jezebel.com/5404064/rapists-admit-repeated-crimes--as-long-as-you-dont-call-it-rape

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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2014, 11:43:40 am »
Teach men not to rape? I'm pretty sure the actual rapists are the ones who know it's bad, but do so anyway.
Yeah, those who rape strangers probably usually do but not all rapists fall into that category. Those who rape people they know and who trust them don't even necessarily realize they are committing a rape. That's where teaching people about what constitutes a consent to having sex can help the issue.

Sure, fair enough.

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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2014, 05:38:28 pm »
The doublethink is strong with this one.

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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2014, 05:43:57 pm »
The doublethink is strong with this one.

What you talkin' bout, willis?

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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2014, 05:45:14 pm »
The doublethink is strong with this one.

What you talkin' bout, willis?
I'm talking about anti-rape advocates complaining about an anti-rape tool.

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Re: Backlash Against Roofie-Detecting Nail Polish
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2014, 11:48:27 pm »
Teach men not to rape? I'm pretty sure the actual rapists are the ones who know it's bad, but do so anyway.
Yeah, those who rape strangers probably usually do but not all rapists fall into that category. Those who rape people they know and who trust them don't even necessarily realize they are committing a rape. That's where teaching people about what constitutes a consent to having sex can help the issue.
I suppose this counts as a source:http://jezebel.com/5404064/rapists-admit-repeated-crimes--as-long-as-you-dont-call-it-rape
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