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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #780 on: August 01, 2013, 11:06:10 am »
appropriating a sacred Native American ritual and completely bastardizing it in the process to make money.

Yep. And on top of perpetuating stereotypes and using religion as a means to cash in, many of these plastic shaman have seriously injured or killed people while attempting to perform cheap knockoffs of Native rituals (sweat lodges, vision quests, etc.)

Also, I can completely understand why Natives are hurt and offended when people turn sacred regalia (warbonnets, etc.) into a fashion trend (which I wouldn't call racist so much as tacky and kind of insensitive) or dress up as caricatures of them for Halloween (which *is* racist).

That being said, purchasing things like dream catchers and moccasins isn't offensive.

I always laugh when someone talks about Native American shamans.  Shamanism originated from Northern Asia, not the Americas.  There aren't even many religions in the Americas that are shamanistic.

But don't you know? All tribal cultures are identical and interchangeable!

In seriousness, though, "plastic shaman" is just a generic term used for anyone who misrepresents indigenous traditions for their own personal gain, not just idiots who claim to be "Native American shamans".
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #781 on: August 01, 2013, 02:04:19 pm »
I always thought shaman was a generic term used for any priest-like figure in indigenous traditions.

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« Reply #782 on: August 01, 2013, 02:35:59 pm »


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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #783 on: August 01, 2013, 02:40:11 pm »
Regarding shamen, OMFGWTFBBQ HOW SEXIST!!!!! IT SHOULD BE SHAPEOPLE!!!!!!!!! Okay, SJW mode off.






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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #784 on: August 01, 2013, 06:26:31 pm »




Yes, I'm horrible for giving my female character a male name. Even tho it's part of the point of her character to be confused for male sometimes based on how she grew up.

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« Reply #785 on: August 01, 2013, 06:33:43 pm »
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #786 on: August 01, 2013, 06:34:35 pm »
I guess Evan can be kind of a gender neutral name. Kinda like Riley.

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« Reply #787 on: August 01, 2013, 06:37:26 pm »
Unisex names, how do they work?
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #788 on: August 01, 2013, 06:42:23 pm »
Unisex names, how do they work?
Via confusion and not working. Evan is rarely used for girls, Kelly is rarely used for boys, and people who still use them that way are to be suspected of trolling their children.
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« Reply #789 on: August 01, 2013, 06:44:35 pm »
There are still some names that are definitely unisex though, like Sydney, Terry, and Ariel.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #790 on: August 01, 2013, 06:45:46 pm »
There are still some names that are definitely unisex though, like Sydney, Terry, and Ariel.
I'd agree for the first two, and say no to the third. Imagine a boy in elementary school with the same name as The Little Mermaid. He will either grow up to kill himself or others.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #791 on: August 01, 2013, 06:49:13 pm »
There are still some names that are definitely unisex though, like Sydney, Terry, and Ariel.
I'd agree for the first two, and say no to the third. Imagine a boy in elementary school with the same name as The Little Mermaid. He will either grow up to kill himself or others.

I had a boy with the name Ariel as my babysitter for a while and he went off to a good college.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #792 on: August 01, 2013, 06:55:13 pm »
There are still some names that are definitely unisex though, like Sydney, Terry, and Ariel.
I'd agree for the first two, and say no to the third. Imagine a boy in elementary school with the same name as The Little Mermaid. He will either grow up to kill himself or others.

I had a boy with the name Ariel as my babysitter for a while and he went off to a good college.
It was an exaggerating joke. Still, I wouldn't give that name to a boy because it's like poking a lion and a bear repeatedly at the same time while ass-naked and expecting to not get injured. There's a chance, if you are lucky, but damn, there's a better likelihood of getting bullied non-stop for most of your childhood.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #793 on: August 01, 2013, 09:07:04 pm »
Where I live, Ariel is an exclusively male name.
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Re: Worst of Social Justice
« Reply #794 on: August 01, 2013, 09:08:56 pm »
I think the use of Ariel for boys is a very cultural thing. Much like Michel.
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