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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #285 on: January 07, 2017, 01:34:44 am »
And the Senate just defunded Planned Parenthood. I wish I was surprised.
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« Reply #286 on: January 07, 2017, 02:11:47 am »
And the Senate just defunded Planned Parenthood. I wish I was surprised.

Holy shit. Which of Murkowski and Collins signed onto that? (If both didn't, it'd've failed on Biden's tiebreaking vote.)
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« Reply #287 on: January 07, 2017, 02:22:35 am »
I'm digging for more, but I may have spoken too soon. Stand by.
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« Reply #288 on: January 07, 2017, 02:25:59 am »
I'm digging for more, but I may have spoken too soon. Stand by.

My small amount of digging turned up that they'd passed the motion that will let them use reconciliation on the ACA repeal, which Ryan has said will also include a defunding of Planned Parenthood. The vote was apparently 51-48, with Paul voting with the Democrats (because of his concerns over how the Republicans are going about repealing the ACA).
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« Reply #289 on: January 07, 2017, 02:35:42 am »
Regardless, the fact that the Republicans are more concerned with taking health care away from the poor than doing something actually productive is both depressing and infuriating.
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« Reply #290 on: January 07, 2017, 02:42:19 am »
Regardless, the fact that the Republicans are more concerned with taking health care away from the poor than doing something actually productive is both depressing and infuriating.

Playing to their base by getting to talk about how they're voting to defund "abortion giant" Planned Parenthood is productive for them. Shoring up your base is essential to winning elections.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #291 on: January 07, 2017, 06:09:39 am »
Regardless, the fact that the Republicans are more concerned with taking health care away from the poor than doing something actually productive is both depressing and infuriating.

Playing to their base by getting to talk about how they're voting to defund "abortion giant" Planned Parenthood is productive for them. Shoring up your base is essential to winning elections.
Well in the case of Republicans it's more essential in winning primaries isn't it?

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« Reply #292 on: January 07, 2017, 12:04:47 pm »
This is the Republican congress were talking about as well. The we don't want to spend money on anything congress especially infrastructure. How he's going to get them to approve of a 8 to 12 billion dollar project is beyond me. And his jerk off fantasy of getting Mexico to pay for it? No, you know what? Build the wall using our taxes, do it so you can see how Mexico isn't going to pay for something they never wanted in the first place.

it was never about not spending money, it was about Obama. Many of the same people were in Congress during the Bush years, which took us from our greatest national surplus to our largest nation deficit (people like to conveniently ignore that the 2009 budget was Bush's, as the 2017 budget is Obama's). Obama cut that deficit by almost 2/3, but disregard that.

And the wall is so fucking stupid, it'll cost probably 20 Billion to built, it will need constant upkeep and repair (running the cost even higher), it's a giant fucking boondoggle with Mexico (who ranks third in the world in terms of buying American goods, behind Canada and the ENTIRE European FUCKING Union, thanks NAFTA!), and it's overall effect on immigration is still up for debate. In short, it's a stupid decision that could only have been made by a stupid idiot.
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« Reply #293 on: January 07, 2017, 12:43:29 pm »
And there's a huge problem with the border wall I don't think Trump's addressed yet: Texas. Treaties forbid both America and Mexico to build anything in the Rio Grande's floodplains, which means he'd have to build much of the wall on what is currently private property. Most of said private property is owned by ranchers, whose livelihoods are tied to the land they own, so it's unlikely they'd sell. He could use eminent domain to get the land, but that would be a very risky move.
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« Reply #294 on: January 07, 2017, 03:04:06 pm »
And there's a huge problem with the border wall I don't think Trump's addressed yet: Texas. Treaties forbid both America and Mexico to build anything in the Rio Grande's floodplains, which means he'd have to build much of the wall on what is currently private property. Most of said private property is owned by ranchers, whose livelihoods are tied to the land they own, so it's unlikely they'd sell. He could use eminent domain to get the land, but that would be a very risky move.

Or he just gets Texas to use eminent domain themselves, because that state's eminent domain laws are ridiculously lax. They've had no qualms doing that with the Trans-Pecos Pipeline, which provides exactly zero public good.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #295 on: January 07, 2017, 03:25:02 pm »
Thing is doing such a thing would open his own supporters eyes as to just how bad the GOP really is.

Ironbite-this is not something that'll ever come to fruition in his lifetime.

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« Reply #296 on: January 07, 2017, 04:09:30 pm »
Thing is doing such a thing would open his own supporters eyes as to just how bad the GOP really is.

Ironbite-this is not something that'll ever come to fruition in his lifetime.

Won't matter, they'll never vote for a Demoncrat, they'll just abstain.

And anyway, the Republicans are trying to gut the federal government so badly that it won't matter how long the Dems control it after this, they can never put it back together.
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« Reply #297 on: January 07, 2017, 08:56:39 pm »
Thing is doing such a thing would open his own supporters eyes as to just how bad the GOP really is.

Ha, that's funny.

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« Reply #298 on: January 08, 2017, 03:40:54 am »
Meanwhile, let's all hope the US nuclear codes are longer than 140 characters.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #299 on: January 08, 2017, 06:17:08 am »
For much of the Cold war the code to launch US nuclear missiles was just a row of zeroes because that's what the default was. The fact that no one tried to launch the nukes while joking around or because they wanted to start WW3 is proof enough that people are capable of being good.
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