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US border patrol: We'd rather have undocumented immigrants die
« on: January 28, 2018, 06:52:50 pm »
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/22/arrest-no-more-deaths-border-patrol-water-sabotage-migrants

A member of a group called No More Deaths has been arrested for giving food, water and clothing to undocumented immigrants.

The arrest came hours after the group posted videos of a border guard dumping out bottles of water that the group leaves out in the Arizona desert so that people attempting to cross do not die of dehydration in the attempt. No More Deaths takes no position on whether the crossing is successful or not, only that, wherever those attempting end up, in the US or back in their home country, they are still alive.

So there is now a crackdown on people trying to help undocumented immigrants in the US.

And who's next?

Priests.

Many priests will give shelter to people facing deportation, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see immigration officials raiding churches and rectories to round up those being sheltered there and arresting those giving the shelter, namely, the priests and pastors of those churches--people who are trying to live what they consider the values of their religion.
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Re: US border patrol: We'd rather have undocumented immigrants die
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2018, 07:19:20 pm »
We have fallen so far as a country in the past year.  I have no idea where we go from here.

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Re: US border patrol: We'd rather have undocumented immigrants die
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2018, 08:33:41 pm »
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Re: US border patrol: We'd rather have undocumented immigrants die
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2018, 09:50:43 pm »
Well, at least they're consistent in their utter hatred of undocumented immigrants.  Like, dude, I get that what they're doing is against the law, and asinine as the law might be, there ought to be a punishment for it...I just don't think death is quite appropriate for what amounts to hopping your neighbour's fence.
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Re: US border patrol: We'd rather have undocumented immigrants die
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2018, 10:01:59 pm »
Well, at least they're consistent in their utter hatred of undocumented immigrants.  Like, dude, I get that what they're doing is against the law, and asinine as the law might be, there ought to be a punishment for it...I just don't think death is quite appropriate for what amounts to hopping your neighbour's fence.

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Re: US border patrol: We'd rather have undocumented immigrants die
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2018, 01:22:16 am »
They're trying to combine border security with ICE - aka, Trump's wannabe SS.

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Re: US border patrol: We'd rather have undocumented immigrants die
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2018, 01:52:15 am »
Honestly, this seems like a golden opportunity for border patrol. Get one of their guys to join this group and find out exactly where these food and water drops are. Boom, you know exactly where to nab the next lot of aspiring illegals.
Many priests will give shelter to people facing deportation, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see immigration officials raiding churches and rectories to round up those being sheltered there and arresting those giving the shelter, namely, the priests and pastors of those churches--people who are trying to live what they consider the values of their religion.
I'm not sure what exactly you're expecting to happen. Are you arguing that churches should be off limits for law enforcement, or that they shouldn't be enforcing the law at all?

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Re: US border patrol: We'd rather have undocumented immigrants die
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2018, 02:27:34 am »
Many priests will give shelter to people facing deportation, but I wouldn't be at all surprised to see immigration officials raiding churches and rectories to round up those being sheltered there and arresting those giving the shelter, namely, the priests and pastors of those churches--people who are trying to live what they consider the values of their religion.
I'm not sure what exactly you're expecting to happen. Are you arguing that churches should be off limits for law enforcement, or that they shouldn't be enforcing the law at all?

Oh, neither. I was just saying who I think the next targets will be.

That, and pointing out that it's not just the crazy lefties who want to force Christian bakeries to make gay wedding cakes who are (supposedly) willing to trample all over religious freedom in favour of secular law.

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Re: US border patrol: We'd rather have undocumented immigrants die
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2018, 03:26:21 am »
We have fallen so far as a country in the past year.  I have no idea where we go from here.

Ironbite-just disgusting.
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