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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #165 on: February 28, 2013, 11:25:54 am »
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.

I mean seriously, out of people to call atheist... at least get it right? Try Stalin or something. Jesus Christ.
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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #166 on: February 28, 2013, 11:33:04 am »
I mean seriously, out of people to call atheist... at least get it right? Try Stalin or something. Jesus Christ.

I seriously doubt he was an atheist. ;)
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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #167 on: February 28, 2013, 11:40:53 am »
I mean seriously, out of people to call atheist... at least get it right? Try Stalin or something. Jesus Christ.

I seriously doubt he was an atheist. ;)

As far as I can tell, he was an anti-theist the way he brought his hammer down on the Orthodox churches in the Soviet Union. Though he supposedly respected/feared his mom enough to spare the Georgian Orthodox Church since she was highly religious. Though that could be said he was part of that Church, but his exact religion was something I never found in studying him.
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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #168 on: February 28, 2013, 11:51:55 am »
Material Defender, I wasn't actually trying to single out Hitler, but the majority people who voted the Nazi Party into power were Christian, and it wasn't the stormtroopers who vandalized shops and accused their owners who were suspected of having Hebrew relatives.
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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #169 on: February 28, 2013, 11:54:25 am »
Material Defender, I wasn't actually trying to single out Hitler, but the majority people who voted the Nazi Party into power were Christian, and it wasn't the stormtroopers who vandalized shops and accused their owners who were suspected of having Hebrew relatives.

Oh, I know that.
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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #170 on: February 28, 2013, 01:24:34 pm »
I mean seriously, out of people to call atheist... at least get it right? Try Stalin or something. Jesus Christ.

I seriously doubt he was an atheist. ;)

As far as I can tell, he was an anti-theist the way he brought his hammer down on the Orthodox churches in the Soviet Union. Though he supposedly respected/feared his mom enough to spare the Georgian Orthodox Church since she was highly religious. Though that could be said he was part of that Church, but his exact religion was something I never found in studying him.
He also formed alliances with Churches when it suited him, but that's all. I think he did have a very religious upbringing, so maybe that's something he hated growing up. Plus the Russian Orthodox Church was linked with the Tsarist government, so there were probably political reasons too.

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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #171 on: February 28, 2013, 01:29:12 pm »
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.
Rudolf Hess was part of the Thule Society--an anti-Semitic occultist group. I doubt Hitler dabbled in the occult. Interestingly, there was only one member of the Nazi high command who was excommunicated by the Catholic Church: Joseph Goebbels, for marrying a Protestant. I mean, gotta draw the line somewhere.

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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #172 on: February 28, 2013, 02:11:56 pm »
I mean seriously, out of people to call atheist... at least get it right? Try Stalin or something. Jesus Christ.

I seriously doubt he was an atheist. ;)

As far as I can tell, he was an anti-theist the way he brought his hammer down on the Orthodox churches in the Soviet Union. Though he supposedly respected/feared his mom enough to spare the Georgian Orthodox Church since she was highly religious. Though that could be said he was part of that Church, but his exact religion was something I never found in studying him.

I was referring to Jesus.
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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #173 on: February 28, 2013, 02:14:07 pm »
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.
Rudolf Hess was part of the Thule Society--an anti-Semitic occultist group. I doubt Hitler dabbled in the occult. Interestingly, there was only one member of the Nazi high command who was excommunicated by the Catholic Church: Joseph Goebbels, for marrying a Protestant. I mean, gotta draw the line somewhere.
I think Himmler was a bit on the occult side too, if I remember correctly.  Hitler just let them believe what they wanted as long as they didn't bother him with their weirdness.  If I remember correctly, anyway.

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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #174 on: February 28, 2013, 02:28:36 pm »
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.
Rudolf Hess was part of the Thule Society--an anti-Semitic occultist group. I doubt Hitler dabbled in the occult. Interestingly, there was only one member of the Nazi high command who was excommunicated by the Catholic Church: Joseph Goebbels, for marrying a Protestant. I mean, gotta draw the line somewhere.
I think Himmler was a bit on the occult side too, if I remember correctly.  Hitler just let them believe what they wanted as long as they didn't bother him with their weirdness.  If I remember correctly, anyway.
You're probably right about Himmler too. Actually I had the feeling something slipped my mind when I typed that.

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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #175 on: February 28, 2013, 04:36:15 pm »
I mean seriously, out of people to call atheist... at least get it right? Try Stalin or something. Jesus Christ.

I seriously doubt he was an atheist. ;)

As far as I can tell, he was an anti-theist the way he brought his hammer down on the Orthodox churches in the Soviet Union. Though he supposedly respected/feared his mom enough to spare the Georgian Orthodox Church since she was highly religious. Though that could be said he was part of that Church, but his exact religion was something I never found in studying him.

I was referring to Jesus.

Oh lol.
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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #176 on: February 28, 2013, 05:29:26 pm »
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.
Rudolf Hess was part of the Thule Society--an anti-Semitic occultist group. I doubt Hitler dabbled in the occult. Interestingly, there was only one member of the Nazi high command who was excommunicated by the Catholic Church: Joseph Goebbels, for marrying a Protestant. I mean, gotta draw the line somewhere.
I think Himmler was a bit on the occult side too, if I remember correctly.  Hitler just let them believe what they wanted as long as they didn't bother him with their weirdness.  If I remember correctly, anyway.
You're probably right about Himmler too. Actually I had the feeling something slipped my mind when I typed that.

Himmler had some strange ideas about a sort of new-religion he saw which revolved around a mish-mash of King Arthur, Wagnerian opera, Hitler's ideas about the Aryan Race and a few other weird ideas.  One of the castles that was under his command was to house the bodies of the first 12 SS members to be killed in combat.  He claimed that it was a 'soldier's religion', which is ironic when you consider he never once heard a shot fired in anger.

It speaks volumes that even Hitler thought these ideas were batshit insane.
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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #177 on: February 28, 2013, 09:23:47 pm »
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.
Rudolf Hess was part of the Thule Society--an anti-Semitic occultist group. I doubt Hitler dabbled in the occult. Interestingly, there was only one member of the Nazi high command who was excommunicated by the Catholic Church: Joseph Goebbels, for marrying a Protestant. I mean, gotta draw the line somewhere.
I think Himmler was a bit on the occult side too, if I remember correctly.  Hitler just let them believe what they wanted as long as they didn't bother him with their weirdness.  If I remember correctly, anyway.
You're probably right about Himmler too. Actually I had the feeling something slipped my mind when I typed that.

Himmler had some strange ideas about a sort of new-religion he saw which revolved around a mish-mash of King Arthur, Wagnerian opera, Hitler's ideas about the Aryan Race and a few other weird ideas.  One of the castles that was under his command was to house the bodies of the first 12 SS members to be killed in combat.  He claimed that it was a 'soldier's religion', which is ironic when you consider he never once heard a shot fired in anger.

It speaks volumes that even Hitler thought these ideas were batshit insane.

So they are super good? Hitler was super bad after all...
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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #178 on: February 28, 2013, 09:53:47 pm »
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.
Rudolf Hess was part of the Thule Society--an anti-Semitic occultist group. I doubt Hitler dabbled in the occult. Interestingly, there was only one member of the Nazi high command who was excommunicated by the Catholic Church: Joseph Goebbels, for marrying a Protestant. I mean, gotta draw the line somewhere.
I think Himmler was a bit on the occult side too, if I remember correctly.  Hitler just let them believe what they wanted as long as they didn't bother him with their weirdness.  If I remember correctly, anyway.
You're probably right about Himmler too. Actually I had the feeling something slipped my mind when I typed that.

Himmler had some strange ideas about a sort of new-religion he saw which revolved around a mish-mash of King Arthur, Wagnerian opera, Hitler's ideas about the Aryan Race and a few other weird ideas.  One of the castles that was under his command was to house the bodies of the first 12 SS members to be killed in combat.  He claimed that it was a 'soldier's religion', which is ironic when you consider he never once heard a shot fired in anger.

It speaks volumes that even Hitler thought these ideas were batshit insane.

So they are super good? Hitler was super bad after all...
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Re: The Atheist should self censor.
« Reply #179 on: March 01, 2013, 11:40:42 am »
The odd thing was, he would insult the upper classes, particularly the landed gentry and they fucking loved him for it.
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