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How to prove your gay to get out of the Turkish draft
« on: March 27, 2012, 09:12:48 pm »
Apparently being clean shaven makes you gay in Turkey. 

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While gay men are prohibited from military service of any kind, the process for determining and then "diagnosing" them as gay is an incredibly difficult humiliating and demeaning one. It can take over a year before a pink slip is issued, and once they are, men are often bullied and can lose their jobs. And the alternative—hiding one's sexuality and joining anyway—isn't really an alternative at all.

According to this BBC article, here are some of the ways you must prove you are gay to the Turkish army before you are allowed to take that psychosexual disorder elsewhere:

Answer questions regarding your preference on football, wearing women's clothing, and/or perfume.
Maintain a smooth face devoid of facial hair at all times. You must look gay.
Provide a picture of yourself dressed as a woman.
Or. Provide a picture of yourself kissing another man.
Provide explicit sexual photographs in which you are the "passive partner" (see: a bottom).

http://gawker.com/5896853/are-you-a-gay-man-here-are-the-horrifying-ways-the-turkish-army-will-ask-you-to-prove-it

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Re: How to prove your gay to get out of the Turkish draft
« Reply #1 on: March 27, 2012, 09:20:08 pm »
I see it there are two issues.  One is having a DADT policy and theother is mandatory conscription.  The thing is they want to make sure you're not gay to get out of service. 

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Re: How to prove your gay to get out of the Turkish draft
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2012, 05:29:37 am »
Apparently you're not gay if you top.

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Re: How to prove your gay to get out of the Turkish draft
« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2012, 06:50:15 am »
The article doesn't mention the reason for this strictness: proclaiming to be gay is/was a popular method of actually straight draft dodgers/avoiders, so the army started to ask for proofs.

If draft and barring homosexuals wasn't wrong to being with, and if it wasn't so humiliating, it'd be funny. Apparently the Turkish army now has one of the biggest collections of amateur gay porn ever. IIRC there is even a small business niche for gay men to play the partner in such proof videos.
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Re: How to prove your gay to get out of the Turkish draft
« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2012, 08:20:56 am »
The article doesn't mention the reason for this strictness: proclaiming to be gay is/was a popular method of actually straight draft dodgers/avoiders, so the army started to ask for proofs.

If draft and barring homosexuals wasn't wrong to being with, and if it wasn't so humiliating, it'd be funny. Apparently the Turkish army now has one of the biggest collections of amateur gay porn ever. IIRC there is even a small business niche for gay men to play the partner in such proof videos.
Kind of like how American police have the largest collection of child porn in the world.

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Re: How to prove your gay to get out of the Turkish draft
« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2012, 01:23:34 pm »
Am I the only one who begins thinking about the movie/play Hair?
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Re: How to prove your gay to get out of the Turkish draft
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2012, 10:36:53 pm »
Reminds me of some Communist place in Southeast Asia that had people killed because they wore glasses that implied they were smart.
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Re: How to prove your gay to get out of the Turkish draft
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2012, 10:39:09 pm »
Reminds me of some Communist place in Southeast Asia that had people killed because they wore glasses that implied they were smart.
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Re: How to prove your gay to get out of the Turkish draft
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2012, 11:29:54 pm »
KZN02: You mean the Khmer Rouge and Cambodia (aka the Pol Pot show). The irony of it was that the Vietnamese military had to step in to put an end to the slaughter.

(Incidentally, look up someone named Aki Ra on Badass of the Week. It makes for a good read)

That said, while Turkey is supposed to be a secular government, things like this still can happen.


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Re: How to prove your gay to get out of the Turkish draft
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2012, 02:57:55 am »
KZN02: You mean the Khmer Rouge and Cambodia (aka the Pol Pot show). The irony of it was that the Vietnamese military had to step in to put an end to the slaughter.

(Incidentally, look up someone named Aki Ra on Badass of the Week. It makes for a good read)

That said, while Turkey is supposed to be a secular government, things like this still can happen.
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Re: How to prove your gay to get out of the Turkish draft
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2012, 04:11:34 am »
KZN02: You mean the Khmer Rouge and Cambodia (aka the Pol Pot show). The irony of it was that the Vietnamese military had to step in to put an end to the slaughter.

(Incidentally, look up someone named Aki Ra on Badass of the Week. It makes for a good read)

That said, while Turkey is supposed to be a secular government, things like this still can happen.

Sadly the Chinese invaded them *Vietnam* for that, cause Pol Pot was a Mao groupie,and we ourselves aided....Pol Pot, cause we where still pissed off at Vietnam.

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Re: How to prove your gay to get out of the Turkish draft
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2012, 09:50:31 am »
KZN02: You mean the Khmer Rouge and Cambodia (aka the Pol Pot show). The irony of it was that the Vietnamese military had to step in to put an end to the slaughter.

(Incidentally, look up someone named Aki Ra on Badass of the Week. It makes for a good read)

That said, while Turkey is supposed to be a secular government, things like this still can happen.

Sadly the Chinese invaded them *Vietnam* for that, cause Pol Pot was a Mao groupie,and we ourselves aided....Pol Pot, cause we where still pissed off at Vietnam.

*Sigh*
The whole Khmer Rouge was a clusterfuck of unspeakable levels to be fair Vietnam was also