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Re: Modern pop music really does all sound the same
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2012, 04:20:41 am »
Because that's where the money is. I'm sure a long time ago pop music had quality, artists were talented and innovative (maybe), but then as it became popular record companies churned out shit in the hope of making a quick buck.
Lol, that's complete horse shit. Music of any genre and any era, be it 60's pop, 90's alternative rock, dubstep or R&B is flooded with absolute shit. For every genuinely talented musician, there's hundreds of others who make the musical equivalent of shovelware. It's just that as time goes on, people still remember the good stuff while the shit fades into obscurity (and more importantly, it stops being published in any form). It makes anything that happened over 10-20 years ago seem like a golden age by today's standards when it really was not.

I guarantee you that in the 2030's, people will be saying today's music is so much better than whatever it is they'll have.

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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2012, 05:21:40 am »
I would say your and my points are not mutually exclusive.

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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2012, 05:34:42 am »
I was referring specifically to your claim that "a long time ago pop music had quality".

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Re: Modern pop music really does all sound the same
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2012, 05:41:58 am »
It happens all too often that A) shitty music becomes popular for a while, then falls off the charts and is seen as dated and lame just a few years later, while B) truly interesting, innovative music fails to become popular (or is relegated to cult status) only to be rediscovered years or even decades later, when a new generation of kids hear it and think "holy shit, this is awesome, why didn't these guys get bigger?"
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2012, 06:04:31 am »
I was referring specifically to your claim that "a long time ago pop music had quality".

I did say maybe. Then again this isn't something I've put too much thought into, my two cents are probably worthless.

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Re: Modern pop music really does all sound the same
« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2012, 06:11:46 am »
1. Re: dubstep - it originally started in London as an outgrowth of UK garage, 2-step and other obscure breakbeat subgenres that never reached America. Through a game of Chinese whispers, Americans now know as "stuff that sounds like Skrillex". Frankly, this is a tragedy, as Skrillex is an utter hack with one particularly obnoxious trick, and this:

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...is almost not true in his case. In any event, I invite anyone here to Youtube the following: Skream, Distance, Kode9, Burial, 2562, Scuba. I'm not saying that you have to like the aforementioned, but at least the Skrillex disaster will have been averted.
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2. I can't help but feel these days that, in any aspect of society that involves wide-scale choice, where it's media, entertainment or (especially) elections, we're starting to get something of a short-circuit society. Because market research has become ever-more sophisticated, it now comes down to the most minute variations in order to grab the last possible vote/viewer from a given demographic, like the Isaac Asimov (?) story about an election where research pulls up one completely average voter and invites him to vote in leiu of everyone else. Politicians used to pitch policies and rely on the strength of argument; musicians would write songs and then hope they sold, but they couldn't have been sure. Now polling has Presidential elections granulated down to county level (in the UK, elections can and do pitch to specific wards if need be), and radios select their playlists on the basis of what a few hundred in a test group thought of 7-second clips of music, and the end result if it persists will potentially be a sort of cultural equivalent of Newspeak, an ever-narrowing mainstream across the board.
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Re: Modern pop music really does all sound the same
« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2012, 06:35:18 am »
Why does everyone always respond to criticism of dubstep with, "Listen to this --it's real dubstep! It's not the same as Skrillex!"? Even if you're not expecting us to like it, it still comes across as a tad condescending.

Edit: Though I agree that Skrillex is a special kind of evil, and would rather listen to "real" dubstep than his crap, even if I don't care for it.
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Re: Modern pop music really does all sound the same
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2012, 07:33:42 am »
Recently, something utterly remarkable happened in the pop music world. This song hit #1 on the national music charts.

One of the most stereotypical hipster things I've ever heard.

And you know what? I'm actually happy with this development. Does this mean that the public is FINALLY getting tired of awful shallow club shit and vapid teen pop stars? Oh god I really fucking hope so.

I don't even particularly like the song that much, and yet I still find myself hoping that this is a sign of things to come. Fucking ANYTHING would be a welcome change from the awful corporate-manufactured sludge that we've suffered through for the past decade.

Because mediocre is a lot better than mind-numbingly awful.

Quoting my own post to say: Now that I've listened to that song a couple of times, I actually like it a lot more. I think the addition of the female vocalist completely changes the tone of the song. If it were just him, it would come across as a song by a whiny dick who can't handle a break-up. But once you add her verse, it becomes a song about a whiny dick who cant handle a break-up. There's a really nice contrast between his passive-aggressive guilt-tripping and her clear, concise response. There seems to be a lot more thought put into the lyrics than I first gave it credit for.

That xylophone in the background is fucking weird, though.

Also, I'm really glad I check the related videos because holy fuck that music video. I almost expected the words "A Hayao Miyazaki Film" to appear at the end.

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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2012, 08:03:08 am »
Edit: Though I agree that Skrillex is a special kind of evil, and would rather listen to "real" dubstep than his crap, even if I don't care for it.
Maybe it's just me, but I just get the urge to punch him in the face whenever I see him. Between the hipster glasses, the Emo fringe from hell and the fact that he thinks a Macbook is a musical instrument, he just gives of weapons grade "insufferable twat" vibes.

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Re: Modern pop music really does all sound the same
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2012, 09:03:28 am »
Pretty sure if you were to write "pretentious" in sharpie on a blank piece of paper, it would spontaneously morph into an image of Skrillex.
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Re: Modern pop music really does all sound the same
« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2012, 10:28:54 am »
Edit: Though I agree that Skrillex is a special kind of evil, and would rather listen to "real" dubstep than his crap, even if I don't care for it.
Maybe it's just me, but I just get the urge to punch him in the face whenever I see him. Between the hipster glasses, the Emo fringe from hell and the fact that he thinks a Macbook is a musical instrument, he just gives of weapons grade "insufferable twat" vibes.

"Gives off"? More like "radiates with the force of a nuclear bomb." Then again, you did say "weapons grade"...

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Re: Modern pop music really does all sound the same
« Reply #26 on: July 31, 2012, 10:30:07 am »
I suppose it isn't just me then. Capital.

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Re: Modern pop music really does all sound the same
« Reply #27 on: July 31, 2012, 10:55:26 am »
Perhaps I'm just biased against artsy hipsters with Macs because the ones I've met have all been colossal douchebags.

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Re: Modern pop music really does all sound the same
« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2012, 07:56:36 am »
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Re: Modern pop music really does all sound the same
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2012, 12:37:30 am »
Along the same vein:

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