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Why the traditional 1980s Star Wars Canon is superior to the SJW Disney one
Jacob Harrison:
I am a big Star Wars nerd and fan of the original films. I still watch the prequels and the new films made by Disney and partially enjoy them but dislike the liberalism and cheesiness in them and that Disney cares more about cash than good storytelling. That and the fact that George Lucas tinkered with the original trilogy films releasing unnecessary revised editions in 1997, 2004, and 2011. The fact that the 2011 Blue Ray Versions of the original trilogy are very different from the original versions, means that there are two parralel Star Wars Universes. And I will explain why the Alpha Star Wars Universe is far superior to the Beta Disney one.
1. The Alpha Star Wars Universe made the Jedi better
In the Alpha Star Wars Universe, the Jedi Order seemed like a much more noble religious order that defended the Old Republic. The Prequels made the Jedi a fucked up cult that took children from their parents, and forbidden having normal attachment to loved ones such as Anakin having normal attachment and fears about his mother as well as later his wife. No wonder Anakin became Darth Vader.
The Prequels also made the Jedi extremely dumb and incompetent because they did not even pursue or investigate who the Sith Master is before it was too late.
And in the sequel trilogy, Luke Skywalker despite overthrowing the Empire, failed his own nephew Ben who along with other students in his New Jedi Order, murdered all the other new Jedi except for Luke. The Jedi failed again!
2. The Sequels kind of ruin the original trilogy.
The theme in the Original Trilogy was that the Galactic Empire was overthrown, the Jedi returned and lasting peace was brought to the galaxy. The sequels make it so that the Empire has a successor called the First Order which builds a new planet destroying space station that destroys the New Republic, and takes over the Galaxy. So lasting peace was not brought to the galaxy.
3. The Alpha Star Wars Universe promoted more traditional values.
In the Alpha Star Wars Universe, there was more of a moral growth in the characters. In the original version of Star Wars, Han Solo shot first not Greedo, showing that he originated as a smuggling ganster thug who started to change by the end of A New Hope when he helped join in the Battle of Yavin and that he changed his thuggish ways by the end of Return of the Jedi and fully fell in love with Leia and would settle down raise a family with her.
However the sequels make it so that he and Leia only had 1 child, made him a lousy dad who later left Leia and had him still be involved in criminal activity and get murdered by his own son that he neglected to raise well.
4. The prequels were way too pornographic.
Yes the original trilogy showed Princess Leia in that slave outfit but that was to illustrate that Janna the Hutt is a sexual predator. However the prequels showed unnecessary pornographic scenes with Padme and Anakin while they were in a friend zone relationship.
5. The Modern Canon made Darth Vader and the Galactic Empire way to evil.
In Revenge of the Sith, they had Anakin Skywalker murder Jedi children, which is an act so evil that it is irredeemable, making Anakin’s redemption in Return of the Jedi not real redemption.
In the Alpha Star Wars Universe, they did not make Vader and the Empire THAT brutal. In the Original Films they were mainly foccused on crushing the rebels. In fact when my dad watched the films in the theaters, he actually considered the Imperials to be the good guys bringing Law and Order to the Galaxy. He considered the Rebels to be terrorists like the Viet Cong that my grandfather fought against in the Vietnam War and the Jedi to be bizarre New agers for believing in repressing the natural emotions for Fear, Anger, and Hate while he considered the Dark Side of the Force to be more natural, and compared Emperor Palpatine to benevolent Emperors such as Ceasar Augustus, Constantine, Justinian, Charlemagne etc.
ironbite:
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Tolpuddle Martyr:
You just had to be a toxic Star Wars fanboi didn't you?
Feeeemale Jedi? Childhood rooned! Let me guess, you're a Gamergater and a Sad Puppy too?
Lana Reverse:
--- Quote from: Tolpuddle Martyr on July 05, 2018, 06:09:54 pm ---You just had to be a toxic Star Wars fanboi didn't you?
Feeeemale Jedi? Childhood rooned! Let me guess, you're a Gamergater and a Sad Puppy too?
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A lot of this was stupid, but he didn't say anything about female Jedi. Let's not strawman him.
Besides, there have been female Jedi for years, decades even. We can't brush off all criticism of Disney's Star Wars as sexism. Yeah, some of its haters are sexist, but not all of them, or even a majority of them.
That being said, there are a lot of problems with what Jacob had to say. The weird "pornographic" comments alone are facepalm-worthy.
Tolpuddle Martyr:
--- Quote from: Lana Reverse on July 05, 2018, 06:32:26 pm ---
--- Quote from: Tolpuddle Martyr on July 05, 2018, 06:09:54 pm ---You just had to be a toxic Star Wars fanboi didn't you?
Feeeemale Jedi? Childhood rooned! Let me guess, you're a Gamergater and a Sad Puppy too?
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A lot of this was stupid, but he didn't say anything about female Jedi. Let's not strawman him.
Besides, there have been female Jedi for years, decades even. We can't brush off all criticism of Disney's Star Wars as sexism. Yeah, some of its haters are sexist, but not all of them, or even a majority of them.
That being said, there are a lot of problems with what Jacob had to say. The weird "pornographic" comments alone are facepalm-worthy.
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True, he hasn't said anything about female Jedi-yet. That said, strawmanning is a debating term. I'm not debating this guy, I'm mocking him.
Yo Jacob, direct question. Do you approve of female Jedi in the new SW films The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi? What about the other female action characters in Rouge One and Solo?
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