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Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« on: May 14, 2012, 09:09:16 pm »
I came to my attention that Dan Savage and a few other LGBT activists are claim that the black community was responsible for Prop 8 and Amendment 1 passing. And as such they've created a new campaign with the slogan "Gay is the new black". They are wrong.

As it turns out, the black community isn't more likely to vote against gay rights than non-black communities. In fact, it seems that racially diverse community are more likely to vote for LGBT rights. Race isn't a significant factor in determining who goes against LGBT rights; instead it's political affiliation and religiosity that determines how people vote.



So that's is why people did claim it was wrong for people like Dan Savage to accuse the black community of homophobia. It's not only wrong, it plays right into the hands of bigots like NOM who would love to turn the black community against the LGBT community. Furthermore, the "gay is the new black" campaign ignores the fact that anti-black racism is still a real thing in the United States. It assumes that racism is over, when it so clearly isn't. And it erases and ignore the experiences for queer people of color who faces homophobia/transphobia/biophobia/heterosexism and racism. Gay can't be the new black, because black is still a thing.
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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2012, 10:04:52 pm »
I am thinking that folks that make this claim are taking the wrong message from all the folks that have been trying to actually put heterosexual blacks against gays. It is nice to see that such loathsome individuals’ attempts have pretty well been for naught.
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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2012, 10:10:42 pm »
Using a slogan like "gay is the new black" itself smacks of racism.  While both groups certainly suffer from discrimination, the struggles of the LGBT community are quite a bit different from what the African-American community has gone through, both in content and context.
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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2012, 10:18:40 pm »
I facepalmed so hard when you said he blamed Prop 8 and Amendment 1 on black people. Jesus, does Dan Savage even listen to a word that comes out of his pseudo-liberal, racist mouth?

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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2012, 10:36:19 pm »
When will people learn that Savage is a monstrous person?

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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2012, 10:39:36 pm »
When will people learn that Savage is a monstrous person?

Dan Savage is a lesbophobic, biphobic, transphobic, sexist, ableist, sizeist, racist, aceist and insensitive bigot. There, is there anything I missed?
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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2012, 10:43:35 pm »
When will people learn that Savage is a monstrous person?

Dan Savage is a lesbophobic, biphobic, transphobic, sexist, ableist, sizeist, racist, aceist and insensitive bigot. There, is there anything I missed?

No... I think you got everything. Now put it in alphabetical order. ;P

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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2012, 10:54:48 pm »
Using a slogan like "gay is the new black" itself smacks of racism.  While both groups certainly suffer from discrimination, the struggles of the LGBT community are quite a bit different from what the African-American community has gone through, both in content and context.

Exactly. I think the problem is some queer people get butthurt when you tell them racism and homophobia isn't the same because they think you're saying "being gay is a choice". But their wrong. It doesn't mean being gay is a choice. It means homophobia has experiences that aren't similar to racism. Both needs to be addressed but they need to be addressed as their own thing.
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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2012, 10:56:07 pm »
When will people learn that Savage is a monstrous person?

Dan Savage is a lesbophobic, biphobic, transphobic, sexist, ableist, sizeist, racist, aceist and insensitive bigot. There, is there anything I missed?

Heterophobic maybe? I don't know much about Dan Savage, but from what I've heard recently, I probably don't want to.

Why doe he insist on feeding the trolls(NOM)? Is this not the exact shit NOM wanted?

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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2012, 12:09:26 am »
I know a little about Savage, and quite frankly I don't want to know more about him.

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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2012, 12:13:38 am »
I do like something things about Dan Savage, but his stupidity has outweighed his insightful side. The bad part? I know some gay guys say "but he's cute", like that's ever a valid excuse for anything.
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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2012, 12:34:18 am »
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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2012, 08:18:18 am »
The thing is when he does this he can oftentimes push people away like I bet Savage could help Muslims accept homosexuality but instead he says stuff like this which isolate the black muslim community.

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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2012, 09:48:56 am »
When will people learn that Savage is a monstrous person?

Dan Savage is a lesbophobic, biphobic, transphobic, sexist, ableist, sizeist, racist, aceist and insensitive bigot. There, is there anything I missed?

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Re: Why Dan Savage and co. are wrong about homophobia
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2012, 10:11:04 am »
When will people learn that Savage is a monstrous person?

Dan Savage is a lesbophobic, biphobic, transphobic, sexist, ableist, sizeist, racist, aceist and insensitive bigot. There, is there anything I missed?

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