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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2013, 01:35:21 pm »
To be fair, Distind's wording was confusing. What he meant to say was that atheists don't hate believers*, nor do we hate god. We don't believe god exists and you can't really hate something you don't think it real.

* Well, some atheists do, but most don't.
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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2013, 02:04:18 pm »
So this moron vanity searched for himself and found us eh?

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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2013, 02:53:55 pm »
Quote from: JohnE on February 22, 2013, 01:35:21 pm
To be fair, Distind's wording was confusing. What he meant to say was that atheists don't hate believers*, nor do we hate god. We don't believe god exists and you can't really hate something you don't think it real.

* Well, some atheists do, but most don't.

Yeah, well, maybe it was worded awkwardly, but I still knew what he meant as soon as I read it.  I still think AE's remark was nothing more than a smart-ass comeback.
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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2013, 06:32:11 pm »
I think I can end this thread with one example.

We don't hate God and we don't hate believers.  How do we know this? One of the greatest, most well-respected and liked members of this forum, Sandman.  I'm fairly sure that, besides the folks who ended up tasting shoe leather from the boot he put in their asses, everyone loved and adored him.  To us, Sandman was the forum's grandfather.  He just used a claymore if you REALLY ticked him off.
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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2013, 07:08:03 pm »
Quote from: Priestling on February 22, 2013, 06:32:11 pm
I think I can end this thread with one example.

We don't hate God and we don't hate believers.  How do we know this? One of the greatest, most well-respected and liked members of this forum, Sandman.  I'm fairly sure that, besides the folks who ended up tasting shoe leather from the boot he put in their asses, everyone loved and adored him.  To us, Sandman was the forum's grandfather.  He just used a claymore if you REALLY ticked him off.

"But he associated with you heathens, so he wasn't a True Christian (TM)!"

I think I threw up a little in my mouth typing that.
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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2013, 07:12:30 pm »
Quote from: R. U. Sirius on February 22, 2013, 07:08:03 pm
Quote from: Priestling on February 22, 2013, 06:32:11 pm
I think I can end this thread with one example.

We don't hate God and we don't hate believers.  How do we know this? One of the greatest, most well-respected and liked members of this forum, Sandman.  I'm fairly sure that, besides the folks who ended up tasting shoe leather from the boot he put in their asses, everyone loved and adored him.  To us, Sandman was the forum's grandfather.  He just used a claymore if you REALLY ticked him off.

"But he associated with you heathens, so he wasn't a True Christian (TM)!"

I think I threw up a little in my mouth typing that.

I was about to post basically the same thing.
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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2013, 01:03:42 am »
Let's apply the fundie "logic" that "atheists just pretend not to believe in god because they hate him" to other things.

You can't hate someone you don't believe actually exists.  Therefore, everyone who has read Game of Thrones or has watched the series believes that Joffrey is a real person if they hate him.

People only deny the existence of unicorns because they hate unicorns so much.  Seriously, unicorns are probably the most hated animal ever.  For that same reason, it's extremely hard to find anyone that believes wasps and mosquitoes are real.
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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2013, 12:19:32 pm »
Quote from: StallChaser on February 23, 2013, 01:03:42 am
Let's apply the fundie "logic" that "atheists just pretend not to believe in god because they hate him" to other things.

You can't hate someone you don't believe actually exists.  Therefore, everyone who has read Game of Thrones or has watched the series believes that Joffrey is a real person if they hate him.

People only deny the existence of unicorns because they hate unicorns so much.  Seriously, unicorns are probably the most hated animal ever.  For that same reason, it's extremely hard to find anyone that believes wasps and mosquitoes are real.

Unicorns are h-h-hated?  *sob*

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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2013, 01:38:53 pm »
Quote from: B-Man on February 23, 2013, 12:19:32 pm
Unicorns are h-h-hated?  *sob*



Yes. Go away.

If we want fantastical horse-like creatures we go for centaurs. At least they drink their booze like men.

Although, centaurs do have downsides as well.

a) They have no easy and casual way to use / not use pants.
b) Same problem with toilets.
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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2013, 10:18:30 pm »
Quote from: askold on February 23, 2013, 01:38:53 pm
Quote from: B-Man on February 23, 2013, 12:19:32 pm
Unicorns are h-h-hated?  *sob*



Yes. Go away.

If we want fantastical horse-like creatures we go for centaurs. At least they drink their booze like men.



You were saying?
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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #40 on: February 24, 2013, 02:29:34 am »
Quote from: MadCatTLX on February 23, 2013, 10:18:30 pm
Quote from: askold on February 23, 2013, 01:38:53 pm

Yes. Go away.

If we want fantastical horse-like creatures we go for centaurs. At least they drink their booze like men.



You were saying?

Like the caterpillar that turns into a butterfly, unicorns are the larval form of a centaur.  Alcohol facilitates that transformation.  Here we have a centaur about to be born.
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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #41 on: February 24, 2013, 02:31:50 am »
Unfortunately, the alcohol was actually hot sauce.  So the unicorn transformed into a Rapidash instead.
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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
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Re: A christian's view of athiests...pile on the strawmen
« Reply #43 on: February 25, 2013, 02:26:00 am »
Closer to the original topic:

I hate strawmen no matter who uses them. They prevent discussion and debate and stop any progress that might have come when debating the REAL topic.

And I admit that I have used them occasionally. Trying not to do that anymore.
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