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Offline Crystal-King

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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2013, 09:37:48 pm »
Soooo...either defund the ACA, or they'll get an extra couple of nap times into their already sleep-laden schedules?  Let 'em sleep.  Maybe we'll get lucky and botflies will lay eggs that burrow into and eat their brains.

You darn well know those poor botflies would starve if that happened.

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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2013, 10:18:00 pm »
You sure they don't have any brains? Maybe Medical Mechanica got to them and smoothed out all the wrinkles on them. That would explain the Teabaggers at any rate.


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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2013, 11:20:51 pm »
Did anyone else see this coming ten repeals ago?
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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2013, 12:42:43 am »
Did anyone else see this coming ten repeals ago?
Ten? Try 40!
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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2013, 01:11:09 am »
They've been threatening this since...middle of the summer.

Ironbite-yeah we all knew this was coming.

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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2013, 01:19:03 am »
Whatever the many "real" behind the scenes reasons for all the bitching against the ACA, perhaps it is the bitching itself, in that they have committed so much energy and time to publicly de-educating their voter base, that they just cannot afford to let it go, much less admit that the ACA is actually tenable is the reason for the showdown. A conservative pol today is utterly incapable of admitting error, of being big enough to apologize, or of just quietly correcting a faux pas. Unless they are Gov. Christie and a few others.

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2013/05/24/unexpected-health-insurance-rate-shock-california-obamacare-insurance-exchange-announces-premium-rates/
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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2013, 04:08:39 pm »
The House just passed the bill. So now the Senate has to kill it.
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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2013, 05:35:24 pm »
Which the Senate has said it'll do just that.

Ironbite-or at least strip it of the ACA defunding stuff.

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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2013, 05:15:43 am »
What bothers me is, even if the act was complete and total crap, they've wasted all our money to tell us the act will waste our money (with their only reasoning usually being, "it's unconstitutional"), without offering any alternative ideas, and all the while receiving health care for FREE.
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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2013, 09:31:25 am »
No. Members of Congress don't receive free healthcare. Their employer being the federal government part of their health insurance is tax payer funded. But like everyone else they make individual contributions to their health insurance.

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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2013, 12:14:27 pm »
ACA was originally designed by repubs and a few dems. But OBAMA! He touched it and talked it up! It's TAINTED with OBAMA cooties, so kill it kill it kill it. sigh.
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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #26 on: September 21, 2013, 07:48:23 pm »
ACA was originally designed by repubs and a few dems. But OBAMA! He touched it and talked it up! It's TAINTED with OBAMA cooties, so kill it kill it kill it. sigh.

That's what really amazes anyone who knows what's really going on.

The basic outline of the ACA was originally created by the Heritage Foundation, now run by Jim DeMint, one of the bugfuck crazy assholes trying to kill it.

It was proposed to Congress by Bob Dole, the Republican leader in the Senate, as an alternative to the health care reforms the Clinton Administration was developing.

It was actually passed in Massachusetts and signed by Mitt Rmoney.  The guy who the Republicans nominated for President in 2012.

But it became radical socialism the minute the scary black Muslin Kenyan Nazi Communist N****r endorsed it.

But you know what I think a lot of Republcans are afraid of?

That it'll work.

Their entire scam over the last thirty years has been "Government doesn't work!!!"   A government program that has a chance of actually working, of actually making things better for people who aren't rich and white, undercuts the entire message they sell to their base of knuckledragging bigots to keep them voting.

I mean, decades ago, the conservatives were against Medicare and Medicaid.  They called it "Communist" and pretty much everything they now use against the ACA.  How did that work?  Oh yeah, Teabaggers were protesting the ACA with their "Keip ur dam gubmint handz off mi medicaer" signs.
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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #27 on: September 21, 2013, 07:56:38 pm »
Tea Party has been and always will be the "fuck you, I got mine" party. And I can totally remember Newt Gingrich being for the ACA when the Republicans were pushing it in the 90s. The irony wasn't lost on me when I saw him in 2011 calling it socialism.

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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2013, 08:19:35 pm »
On the other hand, if it fails, because of its origins from conservative groups, it may discredit all their ideas.
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Re: Defund Affordable Care Act Or We'll Shut Down Government
« Reply #29 on: September 21, 2013, 08:21:17 pm »
Didn't they try this once already?