European Migrant and Refugee Discussion Thread

[Ultimate Paragon]

Still can't see the connection between British Pakistanis and Syrian Refugees aside from the fact that both are mostly Muslim. Pakistanis have been a large community in Britain for generations.

They're not exactly the same, true, but there's always the chance that something like this might happen when it comes to the refugees.  Already, we're seeing accusations that there was some kind of cover-up regarding Cologne, and we know Reddit tried to bury the story.

[rookie]

Reddit is a credible news source now?

[Ultimate Paragon]

There was a big controversy about /r/WorldNews deleting threads about the Cologne story.

[Canadian Mojo]

Define 'big'

[Askold]

...I was waiting to get a non-Finnish or Swedish article on this:
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-35343392

It's not like you would need to do anything to make the Soldiers of Odin looks like clowns. I mean aside from all the things about their name you should know that they only "patrol" the downtown area (which is safe) and they do it 19:30-20:30... But as usual those who support the SoO are now sending death and/or rape threats to Loldiers of Odin members and calling them "traitors."

[mellenORL]

Loldiers of Odin. Beautiful. Almost Pastafarian.

[Søren]

Strongly against, electrify the gates. Guard em, keep them out before its too late.

Too late for what?  What do you think is going to happen?

Are Syrian refugees more likely to be rapists, or are Syrian rapists just given more attention because they can be used to promote anti-refugee bigotry?

Now I can believe that the percentage of migrants who are rapists might be higher then the percentage of Europeans, due to feminism being further behind in the middle east, but I'd still need some evidence.  At any rate the majority of Syrian refugees are not rapists.  Should we really deny safety to a non-rapist because he came from the same country as a rapist?  Americans are more likely to shoot people then Canadians, should we ban Americans from entering Canada over this?

Anyway as a partly Irishman, this blog post struck a chord with me
http://whistlinginthewind.org/2015/12/09/muslims-are-the-new-irish/

They are incompatible with us.

[RavynousHunter]

Strongly against, electrify the gates. Guard em, keep them out before its too late.

Too late for what?  What do you think is going to happen?

Are Syrian refugees more likely to be rapists, or are Syrian rapists just given more attention because they can be used to promote anti-refugee bigotry?

Now I can believe that the percentage of migrants who are rapists might be higher then the percentage of Europeans, due to feminism being further behind in the middle east, but I'd still need some evidence.  At any rate the majority of Syrian refugees are not rapists.  Should we really deny safety to a non-rapist because he came from the same country as a rapist?  Americans are more likely to shoot people then Canadians, should we ban Americans from entering Canada over this?

Anyway as a partly Irishman, this blog post struck a chord with me
http://whistlinginthewind.org/2015/12/09/muslims-are-the-new-irish/

They are incompatible with us.

That's only because they're never given a chance to actually assimilate.  It takes longer than a couple of weeks, Deimos.  Hell, it takes more than a couple of weeks to assimilate with an internet forum, imagine how long it takes to do the same with an actual country with actual culture.

[The_Queen]

Strongly against, electrify the gates. Guard em, keep them out before its too late.

Too late for what?  What do you think is going to happen?

Are Syrian refugees more likely to be rapists, or are Syrian rapists just given more attention because they can be used to promote anti-refugee bigotry?

Now I can believe that the percentage of migrants who are rapists might be higher then the percentage of Europeans, due to feminism being further behind in the middle east, but I'd still need some evidence.  At any rate the majority of Syrian refugees are not rapists.  Should we really deny safety to a non-rapist because he came from the same country as a rapist?  Americans are more likely to shoot people then Canadians, should we ban Americans from entering Canada over this?

Anyway as a partly Irishman, this blog post struck a chord with me
http://whistlinginthewind.org/2015/12/09/muslims-are-the-new-irish/

They are incompatible with us.

No, the Syrian refugees, like ourselves, are perfectly compatible. While socialized differently, we share the same human qualities. They feel pain, they love, and they want acceptance. That is why they flee for their lives: so that they can hopefully one day live in peace with the loved ones they have left. To turn our backs on them puts some of the blood for their inevitable slaughter on our hands, and we, as humans, are better than that.

The only thing "incompatible" here is your xenophobic rhetoric with common intelligence and basic human values.

[pyro]

Anyway as a partly Irishman, this blog post struck a chord with me
http://whistlinginthewind.org/2015/12/09/muslims-are-the-new-irish/

"Muslims are the new Catholics" would probably be more accurate, or "Syrians are the new Irish."

[Skybison]

Strongly against, electrify the gates. Guard em, keep them out before its too late.

Too late for what?  What do you think is going to happen?

They are incompatible with us.

That's not an answer.  Let's say that's true, it isn't but I'll pretend it is, what is going to happen?  What horrible thing will occur if Noujain Mustaffa is allowed to live in the EU or North America?

[Søren]

Strongly against, electrify the gates. Guard em, keep them out before its too late.

Too late for what?  What do you think is going to happen?

They are incompatible with us.

That's not an answer.  Let's say that's true, it isn't but I'll pretend it is, what is going to happen?  What horrible thing will occur if Noujain Mustaffa is allowed to live in the EU or North America?

Wheelchair girl guilt doesnt work on me, try it on someone else.

[The_Queen]

Strongly against, electrify the gates. Guard em, keep them out before its too late.

Too late for what?  What do you think is going to happen?

They are incompatible with us.

That's not an answer.  Let's say that's true, it isn't but I'll pretend it is, what is going to happen?  What horrible thing will occur if Noujain Mustaffa is allowed to live in the EU or North America?

Wheelchair girl guilt doesnt work on me, try it on someone else.

Maybe cause they're fucking human beings, with lives and feelings... who are about to be slaughtered. And, on our part, opening our borders to them is an insignificant burden. Oh, wait, I forgot that you're an edgelord "sociopath." phbththt.

* The_Queen goes to work

Fuck it, fuck it all I say.

[Skybison]

Wheelchair girl guilt doesnt work on me, try it on someone else.

Besides the point.  No terrible thing will happen if we allow refugees into the west.  You aren't even attempting to explain why you're paranoid of them.

Say what you will about Ultimate Paragon, at least he makes an argument.

[Ultimate Paragon]

Gonna have to agree with Queen here, Hof.  Some of the migrants are assholes, yeah, but most of them are victims of war who just want shelter.  We cannot, in good conscience, bar them from entry simply because you think they're "incompatible."  People used to say that about the Chinese, the Italians, the Poles.