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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #15 on: October 02, 2017, 11:39:26 pm »
And to get the money out, we need to vote out the corrupt politicians who happily take the NRA's bribery. Which, speaking as a resident of Wisconsin, the state with such bad voter suppression that our corrupt governor managed to win reelection after a recall, is pretty fucking hard.
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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #16 on: October 02, 2017, 11:46:41 pm »
And to get the money out, we need to vote out the corrupt politicians who happily take the NRA's bribery. Which, speaking as a resident of Wisconsin, the state with such bad voter suppression that our corrupt governor managed to with reelection after a recall, is pretty fucking hard.

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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2017, 02:22:24 am »
In other news about terrible people today, Reddit's incels are celebrating the shooting.

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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2017, 12:33:57 pm »
http://fox4kc.com/2017/10/01/lawrence-community-shaken-after-5-people-shot-on-massachusetts-street/

A shooting that would be headline news in just about any (other) developed country is getting maybe a bit of local coverage in the US.
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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2017, 02:03:12 pm »
In other news about terrible people today, Reddit's incels are celebrating the shooting.

....god they're horrible people.

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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2017, 04:55:08 pm »
https://theintercept.com/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting-gofundme-health-care/

How are the victims of the Vegas massacre trying to avoid medical bankruptcy?

GoFundMe.

And this in the state where the governor vetoed a bill that would have turned Medicaid into a public option.

Fuck you people need single-payer.

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Sobering thought.

There was a "terrorist attack" in Edmonton this weekend where a guy stabbed a cop, stole a truck, and ran over a few people downtown. Five people were wounded. Nobody died.

More Canadians died in the Vegas massacre than in this attack in Edmonton.
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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2017, 10:35:19 pm »
Arsenal of 42 guns that was used to shoot nearly 600 people: a right.

Not going completely bankrupt as a result of being shot by someone with an arsenal of 42 guns: a privilege.
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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2017, 11:57:31 pm »
Arsenal of 42 guns that was used to shoot nearly 600 people: a right.

Not going completely bankrupt as a result of being shot by someone with an arsenal of 42 guns: a privilege.

'MURICA!
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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2017, 01:03:56 am »
Also, they found more guns in a third location. The count is at 49 guns last I heard.
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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2017, 01:26:23 am »
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/abdulahi-hasan-sharif-attack-police-jasper-1.4319245

Number of people wounded in Edmonton (by someone the US ordered deported to Somalia, but he fled here before they could send him there): 5

Number of Canadians dead in Vegas: 4.

Fuck there are times I hate being right next door to your fucked up shithole of a country.

(Though right now most of those times involve Donald Trump provoking Kim Jong-un into firing nuclear missiles, since I live on the west coast and don't trust North Korea's aim... never mind where the fallout might drift.)
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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2017, 01:40:15 am »
https://theguardiansofdemocracy.com/gop-senator-vegas-shooting-victims-people-take-precautions-get-small-avoid-gunfire/

And the victim blaming begins.

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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2017, 01:44:49 am »
Anything to avoid tackling the real issues.

Sen. Thune is a fucking disgusting maggot. (And disturbingly popular with his electorate.)
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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2017, 10:56:14 am »
The NRA owns the Republican party

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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #28 on: October 06, 2017, 02:58:28 am »
http://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/gun-control-las-vegas-1.4330409

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In any case, lawmakers cannot allow this tragedy, which was the 273rd of its kind in 275 days, to make Americans lose sight of what is important here: that is, the freedom to amass a stockpile of weapons, ammunition and modifiers that can enable a single person to wound hundreds and kill dozens in a matter of minutes.

Take that freedom away, and the U.S. suddenly devolves into Japan, or Australia, or some other quasi-socialist country where people aren't gunned down in movie theatres, high schools, on live TV, in nightclubs and in kindergarten classrooms. What would be left of America then? You might as well take away apple pie, Sunday afternoon football (I mean the good kind of football, back before those whiners started kneeling during the national anthem) and the right to skin a deer on the side of the interstate. Like a man.

Liberals forever rattle on about gun control, pushing radical ideas such as prohibiting mentally unstable people from purchasing firearms, or requiring guns to be safely stored so that toddlers stop shooting themselves and others, or banning people from carrying guns into daycares and airports. That is nonsense. Americans need more guns, not fewer.

Indeed, the obvious solution to a man with an arsenal of weapons shooting down from the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino is a sea of 22,000 equally armed concertgoers below, panicked and shooting wildly in the direction of the 43-storey hotel. Perhaps that would have saved some lives. Sadly, we will never know.
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Re: Mass shooting in Vegas
« Reply #29 on: October 09, 2017, 12:11:50 pm »
Santorum just went back to the old chestnut of "violent entertainment".

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/rick-santorum-on-gun-control-debate-why-arent-we-going-after-violent-video-games-and-films/

Those years of research he mentions have failed to find a link between violent games and movies and people being violent in real life. The closest we get to one is that immediately after playing aggressive games, gamers show a slight increase in aggressive tendencies. Within minutes, though, it decreases and gamers show a lower level of aggressiveness than the general population. Almost like it's an outlet which allows people to vent their aggressive tendencies in a way that doesn't hurt anybody...
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