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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by dpareja on Today at 04:03:22 pm »
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by Dr. Weird on Today at 03:55:33 pm »
The biggest thing I don't get it is that virtually everyone in the line of succession would sign any bill Republicans put in front of him. They don't need Trump unless the conspiracy is so huge that the entire line of succession is guilty. And even then, it will take so much time for the conspiracy to unravel (remember, Nixon had a probably much smaller scandal and he still took three years) that it doesn't matter. Trump goes down? Pence will sign the same bills. Pence goes down? Ryan will sign the same bills. Hatch will sign them. Tillerson will sign them. They don't need Trump.

I think it's two things. Republicans don't want the drama and the damage done to their party if impeachment processes would become the major focus in Washington. Democrats are hesitant to demand impeachment because they don't have power and it's an election year so they probably dont want to jump the gun and then look foolish if nothing comes up in these investigations.

Here's my opinion:  Cloud is absolutely right that Pence or Ryan or Hatch or anyone else would sign the tax cuts just as quickly.  The GOP establishment knows that, but they're afraid of Trump's voters.  They've spent four decades using hate radio and Fake News to cultivate this mob of racist, heavily-armed religious kooks who are convinced that the dam librals are out to steal their guns and Bables and make their sons gay marry Mexican immigrants then let Muslins kill them all.  The human dumpster fire has them convinced that he's their Messiah;  if Dump is removed from power and the GOP establishment looks culpable in any way this mob--or, as you can also call it, the Republican base--will be livid.   The GOP establishment--the economic royalists who actually don't give a flying fuck about gay marriage or abortion or Jesus returning and just want their tax cuts, dammit--need those votes to keep and stay in power.

At best, the base stops voting.  Worse, they vote for every bomb-throwing nut job or con-man who rails about the Establishment and invokes Dump as their martyr and primaries the more royalist candidates.  In both those cases, the Democrats could benefit (See the Todd Akin/Roy Moore effect).  At worst...well, we have heavily armed rioters that Fox Noise will still call "peaceful protestors" even when they start killing people.

So I wouldn't be surprised if some of them are actually hoping that the Democrats take power and get rid of Trump; their hands would be "clean", and ironically they would--without the slightest trace of shame--campaign on Dump's martyrdom in 2020 or whatever themselves.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by Id82 on Today at 03:19:41 pm »
I think it's two things. Republicans don't want the drama and the damage done to their party if impeachment processes would become the major focus in Washington. Democrats are hesitant to demand impeachment because they don't have power and it's an election year so they probably dont want to jump the gun and then look foolish if nothing comes up in these investigations.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by Cloud3514 on Today at 03:04:26 pm »
The biggest thing I don't get it is that virtually everyone in the line of succession would sign any bill Republicans put in front of him. They don't need Trump unless the conspiracy is so huge that the entire line of succession is guilty. And even then, it will take so much time for the conspiracy to unravel (remember, Nixon had a probably much smaller scandal and he still took three years) that it doesn't matter. Trump goes down? Pence will sign the same bills. Pence goes down? Ryan will sign the same bills. Hatch will sign them. Tillerson will sign them. They don't need Trump.
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My first thought was "they've invented a new abortion method?"

I'm every bit as sick and twisted as you, dpareja.

Paging niam to this thread.
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Society and History / Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Last post by Svata on Today at 11:16:14 am »
Be that as it may, Osama didn't proclaim its usefulness in advancing his agenda. That's where the difference comes in. Hitler ate sugar, and that doesn't make sugar-eaters Nazis. But. Hitler didn't (AFAIK) use sugar to promote Nazism. They're using this to promote Nazism. Which doesn't necessarily mean that all of the people who use this slogan are Nazis, but it's a helluva data point in that direction.
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Society and History / Re: 4Chan's "it's okay to be white" campaign
« Last post by Lana Reverse on Today at 10:49:54 am »
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/It%27s_Okay_To_Be_White

Just gonna leave this here.

Andrew Anglin - aka a giant fucking Nazi - defended the project and proclaimed its usefulness in advancing his agenda. So, as I said, this article says all you need to know about this project by the asshole of the internet.

And Osama bin Laden was concerned about global warming. Your point?
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The Lounge / Re: The Funny/Stupid Pics Thread
« Last post by Art Vandelay on Today at 10:29:56 am »
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My first thought was "they've invented a new abortion method?"

I'm every bit as sick and twisted as you, dpareja.
If you're thinking of the lit sparkler method, let it be known that I came up with that first.
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Science and Technology / 2004 USS Princeton UFO incident
« Last post by Askold on Today at 10:01:36 am »
I'm just going to link the thread on Reddit since they went through the trouble of making a better summary than I ever could:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Military/comments/7kcq4e/in_2004_the_uss_princeton_2_super_hornets/

TL;DR

This is one of the more credible UFO reports in that it is likely that they really did see a flying object that they could not identify AND that the most likely answer isn't "those fuckers just can't tell a plane from a bird." It's still more likely that some country had an advanced test plane project that wasn't known to public than this being an alien spaceship, but still interesting.
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