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Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« on: November 27, 2015, 06:29:09 pm »
http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/donald-trumps-racist-rise-presents-fascist-threat-to-republican-party-20151127-gl9huz.html

Donald Trump was flagging in the Republican Primary polls but has had a surge past Carson following the Paris attacks and the furore over Syrian refugees, on the back of pro-deportation/anti-immigration comments. He has stated that he wants to create registers for American Muslims. Even the republicans now think he's a fascist. The question really appears to be whether he knows whether or not he's a fascist.

C'mon America, this isn't funny anymore, drop this oversized oompa loompa

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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2015, 06:54:44 pm »
Still too early to be worried about this fuck head. And if he did get nominated, he pisses off and scares enough mainstream GOP voters that they'd abstain or vote Dem. A fiction writer could not come up with a better spoiler. If a wormhole opens up and the idiot magically got elected president, his incompetence and autocratic style would make Congress freeze up except for impeachment action; he actually would just start spouting off executive orders that are illegal far beyond just unconstitutional.
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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2015, 07:04:19 pm »
In many ways, Trump is a Hitler or Stalin like figure. A somewhat self-made man with an effective but brutal speaking style, the emotional maturity of a three year old, a lot of money and no scruples. I'm not saying he's a genocidal maniac, but what is it about conservatives that make these people attractive to them? (Yes, Stalin was elected by the, conservative, community party room).
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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2015, 07:07:25 pm »
The idea that this man could actually be president scares me.

And if it happens, I'm seriously thinking of contacting the museum I worked for in Alberta over the summer and asking them to give me my old job back just so I don't have to live here anymore.

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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2015, 07:15:03 pm »
I'm sure he'll fizzle out before long, but contingency planning wouldn't hurt.

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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2015, 08:19:17 pm »
I'm sure he'll fizzle out before long, but contingency planning wouldn't hurt.

well, it's refugee season in europe, and the winter's more bearable here...
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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2015, 08:22:35 pm »
Donald Trump is the same basic mold of politician as Adolf Hitler - a brutal speaker, appeals to the darker side of his party and its constituents, calls for a return to a darker age.

People said the same things about Hitler in 1932 - that he was a joke candidate, that the National Socialists were a joke party. But we saw what happened when a joke party is allowed to go too far. And if Donald Trump is given the same amount of graces and allowances as Hitler, it Could Happen Here.

Keep in mind, Old Adolf was jailed. There was a readily available chance to be rid of him. A chance that was passed by.
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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2015, 09:11:11 pm »
If the Trump does get elected, what kind of red tape would a recent college graduate have to cut through to leave, and where would it be a good idea to go?

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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2015, 09:13:25 pm »
Trump would be another Garfield, assassinated in a short time after his election.
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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2015, 09:15:29 pm »
Trump could get elected yes.  But the thing all of you are forgetting is the Constitution stands in his way.  Hitler was able to do the things he was able to do but preying on the German people's fears and getting his cronies in position for a big coup.  He also had the army in his pocket.  I doubt any general at all would let Trump order them around.

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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2015, 09:17:02 pm »
Donald Trump is the same basic mold of politician as Adolf Hitler - a brutal speaker, appeals to the darker side of his party and its constituents, calls for a return to a darker age.

People said the same things about Hitler in 1932 - that he was a joke candidate, that the National Socialists were a joke party. But we saw what happened when a joke party is allowed to go too far. And if Donald Trump is given the same amount of graces and allowances as Hitler, it Could Happen Here.

Keep in mind, Old Adolf was jailed. There was a readily available chance to be rid of him. A chance that was passed by.

I would say he's more like Benito Mussolini: an aloof businessman, born with a silver-spoon in his ass, who looks down his nose at poor individuals and other "different" peoples, and thinks he can throw his weight around politically like he does in business.
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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2015, 09:17:57 pm »
If the Trump does get elected, what kind of red tape would a recent college graduate have to cut through to leave, and where would it be a good idea to go?

depends what field you graduate in. india and korea are both viable for i.t. and telecoms, western europe is general purpose, eastern europe is gearing towards heavy industry, canada's not too dissimilar from the states, and south america is seen as an up and comer, so you might keep your eyes peeled there if your spanish is ok. regarding red tape, ask for a tourist visa, and once in the country of your choice ask for political refugee status. with the hairpiece in the white house, anybody would understand.
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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2015, 12:38:49 am »
Trump could get elected yes.  But the thing all of you are forgetting is the Constitution stands in his way.  Hitler was able to do the things he was able to do but preying on the German people's fears and getting his cronies in position for a big coup.  He also had the army in his pocket.  I doubt any general at all would let Trump order them around.

Ironbite-he'd be impeached before he could compile a registry of Muslims.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_constitution

What really matters is if the populace will put up with it, and being elected after calling for a Muslim Registry is practically endorsement.

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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2015, 01:44:34 am »
I seriously doubt Trump would ever get the 800 billion dollar funding from congress that it would take to find and deport every undocumented person in this country in 18 months.
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Re: Trump surging at the Primaries off the back off Paris/Syria
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2015, 01:51:40 am »
I seriously doubt Trump would ever get the 800 billion dollar funding from congress that it would take to find and deport every undocumented person in this country in 18 months.
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That does not matter. What matters is how many of the voters believe him.

Anyway, I want to point out that there is still time before elections and the front runner in the polls can change a dozen times. And from what I've seen of US elections the polls won't really matter until the election is just around the corner. People change their minds and besides, the voters are so apathetic that only the most loyal of them will actually vote and that means that the polls can mislead.
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