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Community => Politics and Government => Topic started by: Lana Reverse on October 04, 2017, 10:11:17 am
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/03/amber-rudd-viewers-of-online-terrorist-material-face-15-years-in-jail (https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/03/amber-rudd-viewers-of-online-terrorist-material-face-15-years-in-jail)
For comparison, the UK also gives 15-year sentences for serial rape (http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/p_to_r/rape_and_sexual_offences/sentencing/). Orwell is spinning in his grave.
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God damn it Britain.
Ironbite-the fuck is going on with you?
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a) key words "REPEATEDLY viewing" so someone who accidentally sees an ISIS video is not going to get in trouble. The point is to go after people who can be proven to have absorbed a lot of terrorist propaganda and teaching materials.
b) Even now you can be arrested for having the same 15 gigabytes of ISIS videos and training material on your computer, VHS or paper storage or whatever. They think that there's a loophole if watching the same material on Youtube or Liveleak isn't punishable.
c) UP TO 15 years, not a minimum.
d) It's a stupid law and they are going to have a lot of trouble trying to enforce it.
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God damn it Britain.
Ironbite-the fuck is going on with you?
A Tory government, that's what's going on with us :(
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God damn it Britain.
Ironbite-the fuck is going on with you?
A Tory government, that's what's going on with us :(
Not just Tory, Tory/DUP. (Or at least Tory with DUP support through a confidence and supply agreement or something.)
Problem is that the Tories would rather have the DUP have them by the balls than call another election which Labour would very likely win in a landslide.
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I just wonder what's their long term plan because the longer they continue with this particular disaster the more they lose support.
I mean, even now the very best option for Britain is "let's just go back to the way things used to be and pretend that this never happened." In fact, the best option that has any kind of "BREXIT" in it is the Norway deal where the only thing that changes is that Britain will no longer be able to vote in EU. (Best option for EU on the other hand is to force Britain to give up their own currency and join Euro if they want to go back.)
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...(Best option for EU on the other hand is to force Britain to give up their own currency and join Euro if they want to go back.)
If the value of the pound keeps going the way it has since the Brexit vote that might also be the best option for the UK, never mind the EU.
As for the DUP/Tory mash-up: according to the DUP they still haven't actually finalised any deals or agreements with the Tories, even though May has indicated otherwise. So I don't see this partnership going all that well for either of them as they can't even agree on whether or not they agree. Plus, the Tories have been doing terrible/stupid shit like this for years before they climbed into the DUP's bed. So IMO this is all Tory.
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d) It's a stupid law and they are going to have a lot of trouble trying to enforce it.
That's a politicians favorite type of law.
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It seems like conservatives just enjoy making nonsensical laws that are impossible to enforce with any dignity, and which just result in challenges to their constitutionality, resulting in egg on the conservative party's face.