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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #345 on: July 21, 2014, 09:16:22 pm »
Of course, I'm someone that was exposed to more Looney Tunes when they beyond the target age demographic than when they were, so that may influence my opinions a tad.
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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #346 on: December 27, 2014, 09:38:57 pm »
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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #347 on: January 11, 2015, 03:02:52 pm »
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Friendly reminder that no “ships” AND all “ships” are “canon” since they are a form of metatextual discourse produced by a community of readers and what is “canon” anyway after the “death of the author,” isn’t the ongoing interpretation of the community what produces “canon” because of the inherent instability of texts?

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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #348 on: January 11, 2015, 08:18:40 pm »
...I think I mostly agree? I mean, canon vs non-canon is a useful distinction in some contexts, but it's not necessarily well-defined in the general case. There's a meaningful sense in which all interpretations are equally valid (and another, also meaningful sense in which the author's interpretation is "canon" and privileged in some way).

If my interpretation of The Lord of the Rings is that whenever we weren't looking Sam and Frodo are passionately making out, then in what way can that be false? It's not like there was a real Frodo who either was or wasn't making out out with Sam. There is no Frodo. He only exists in the mind of people reading the book/watching the movie. Ergo, if in my mind he was making out with Sam, then the version of Frodo that lives in my mind makes out with Sam. The end.

The version of Frodo that lived in Tolkien's mind probably didn't, which means that I shouldn't expect to find a line in the epilogue that reads "And then Sam left his wife and children and moved with Frodo to Rohan, where same-sex marriage is legal". In that sense, "canon" is privileged, because it can be used to predict what will actually show up in the page. But it's not any more true or real than any other interpretation, because no interpretation is true or real at all. Fiction is things that didn't actually happen, hence the name.
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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #349 on: January 11, 2015, 08:30:05 pm »
I read the Tiddy Fic.

I feel like I just read a tome of the Ruinous Powers.
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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #350 on: January 11, 2015, 08:37:08 pm »
Do I even want to know what the Tiddy Fic is?

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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #351 on: January 11, 2015, 08:46:22 pm »
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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #352 on: January 11, 2015, 11:43:58 pm »
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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #353 on: May 19, 2015, 02:03:04 am »
Goddamn, Hidashi shippers.  So, apparently one of the most popular ships in the Big Hero 6 fandom is Hidashi (a portmanteau of the names Hiro and Tadashi), which pairs a college student between the ages of 18 and 21 and his 14-year-old brother.  This by itself doesn't surprise me, the internet being what it is and all.

What really bothers me is just how vehemently self-righteous people are about defending this ship.  They come up with weird straw-man arguments or twisted reasoning in order to avoid the fact that their ship is skeevy as fuck.   

Also, a weird thing I've noticed on AO3 is that quite a few fics that "age up" Hiro still keep him underage.  It's not even a case of, "well, maybe the author lives in a state where 17 is the age of consent", since they still actively tag the fic as "Underage".  What was even the point of aging him up then?  Why not just go make 18?  Why do you need to keep him a minor?

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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #354 on: July 28, 2015, 11:06:30 am »
I recently found out about some of the lunatics in the Steven Universe fandom.

https://kiwifar.ms/threads/steven-universe-fandom.8711/

I mean, Jesus Christ.

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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #355 on: July 31, 2015, 06:52:28 pm »
Of course, I'm someone that was exposed to more Looney Tunes when they beyond the target age demographic than when they were, so that may influence my opinions a tad.

The age demographic for Looney Tunes is a difficult one. When they were originally made, they were made for people waiting for the movie to start. Since this was Hays Code era, that meant all movies were for general audiences, even if it was something a child might not be interested in. Some of the Tunes have jokes that were really intended for adults but just stayed within Hays Code limitations. Here's a list of examples and an explanation: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Radar/LooneyTunes

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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #356 on: August 17, 2015, 09:19:27 am »
I recently found out about some of the lunatics in the Steven Universe fandom.

https://kiwifar.ms/threads/steven-universe-fandom.8711/

I mean, Jesus Christ.
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Im still pissed off about that.

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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #357 on: August 17, 2015, 02:52:28 pm »
Also, a weird thing I've noticed on AO3 is that quite a few fics that "age up" Hiro still keep him underage.  It's not even a case of, "well, maybe the author lives in a state where 17 is the age of consent", since they still actively tag the fic as "Underage".  What was even the point of aging him up then?  Why not just go make 18?  Why do you need to keep him a minor?

Well, there is still the possibility that they put that tag because they know that even those 17 year olds are or legal age where they live it is not the same everywhere

...Or it could be because they have a thing for underaged kids but still feel that 14 is still way too young while 17 is "old enough" for them.
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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #358 on: August 17, 2015, 04:43:22 pm »
I hang around the Ghostbusters forums...and goh boy, has it been horrible ever since the Paul Feig reimagining with an all-female cast was just a rumor.

First, let me say that no, not every person who's upset about the movie is a misogynist dickhead.  Many are angry because it's not a true sequel, and they feel like Sony treated Ivan Reitman and Dan Aykroyd shabbily by basically going around them to get this made.

That being said...oh yes, there are misogynist dickheads at work.

Like this little twerp, who's very in love with the word "misandry"

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The worst is how aggressively feminist this movie is. Truly equal gender would have been a movie like Gravity, where the strong lead female draws emotional strength from the equally strong lead male.

This GB3 just spits on and demeans men throughout like a bad 70's mysogynistic cop show but the mysandric equivalent.

A hunky, muscle bound male subserviant secretary. No male Ghostbusters, The proposed final scene with traditional primarily male figures of authority, the Army and Police force doing a possessed helpless synchronised goofy dance routine while the girls save the day, etc.

It's so misandric it would be shot down if the roles were reserved. But it's 2015 and you can say what you want about men, it's the in thing nowadays. A better movie would have featured men and women GB's equally.

I'm just surprised that not more people realize how sexist this movie is while claiming the opposite.


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But the real low was this:

New Ghostbusters Bashed After Visiting Kid's Hospital

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On Saturday, the cast of the new Ghostbusters movie filming in Boston—Melissa McCarthy, Kristen Wiig, Kate McKinnon, and Leslie Jones—visited patients at the Floating Hospital for Children at Tufts Medical Center.

But, this being the Internet after all, some people had to try and distract us from movie stars doing a nice thing for sick kids by commenting on the post with the kind of misogynistic hate that’s been circulating on the web since an all-female Ghostbusters reboot was still in the rumors stage. You see, some men aren’t happy that the Ghostbusters franchise will feature an all-female ghost-hunting team because, well, who cares. Something about childhoods being ruined, all because women are playing roles that were played by men 30 years ago. As director Paul Feig said to the haters back in March, “Honestly, the only way I could ruin your childhood is if I got into a time machine and went back and made you an orphan.”

https://www.facebook.com/tuftsmedicalcenter/posts/10154026896428356

As Jezebel noted, the comments on the above post were apparently so nasty, Tufts was forced to follow up with this post reminding Facebook users about their profanity policy:

Coincidentally, there is a different, all-dude Ghostbusters film in the works, with Channing Tatum rumored to star. The question of why the hell men and women can’t be on the same silver-screen paranormal investigating team here in 2015 remains to be answered.

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Yeah, thanks, jerkweeds.

To be fair, in this thread the community as a whole condemned this shit, except for one troll who claimed he was oppressed or something.  But thanks, now the Ghostbusters fans join the Bronies in hosting a surprising number of misogynist idiots.


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Re: Fandumb
« Reply #359 on: August 17, 2015, 06:12:53 pm »
There was a rumour that Bill Murray was going to do a cameo on the new ghostbusters just because it was an all female lead. If that's the case then I am all for it. Personally I'll be happy as long as it's not a scene for scene remake of the original with only the genders swapped.