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Title: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 11, 2018, 08:35:49 pm
I pray this wil l convert you to Christianity. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-FylmW4TzP4
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 11, 2018, 09:44:28 pm
You can't bore people into a religion, Jacob!
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Art Vandelay on September 11, 2018, 10:32:30 pm
So, some cockmonkey had a vivid dream about a slightly different version of his imaginary friend. We're supposed to be impressed... Why?
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Skybison on September 12, 2018, 12:18:26 am
Here's a Christian who was touched by Allah and became a Muslim.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT3_i5f2oUw

That proves Islam must be true.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 12, 2018, 03:42:27 am
OK so lets break down the facts here.

A guy is hitting the booze so hard he moves to Saudi Arabia to get away from it, this tells us that his central nervous system already might not be in working order. He attends the Haj, during this time he has a hallucination. One of his friends suspects he ate too much food and tells him to go back to sleep. His amazing evidence for all this? Not a completely white spot on his chest in stark contrast to the rest of his chest hair but the middle aged salt and pepper chest hair you might see on a billion old blokes the world over if you stared at their tits close enough.

You weren't even trying were you?
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 12, 2018, 07:42:40 am
OK so lets break down the facts here.

A guy is hitting the booze so hard he moves to Saudi Arabia to get away from it, this tells us that his central nervous system already might not be in working order. He attends the Haj, during this time he has a hallucination. One of his friends suspects he ate too much food and tells him to go back to sleep. His amazing evidence for all this? Not a completely white spot on his chest in stark contrast to the rest of his chest hair but the middle aged salt and pepper chest hair you might see on a billion old blokes the world over if you stared at their tits close enough.

You weren't even trying were you?

He also has a mark on his forehead that he shown. And if you look at his chest carefully, the part where Jesus touched him is a completely white spot in stark contrast to the rest of his chest hair.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 12, 2018, 12:42:32 pm
He's a middle aged dude and his forehead looks unexceptional to me.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 12, 2018, 01:46:18 pm
He's a middle aged dude and his forehead looks unexceptional to me.

In the video he was pointing to a mark. Anyway, how do you explain the contrast on the image of his chest that I uploaded in the previous comment?
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 12, 2018, 04:14:57 pm
He's a middle aged dude and his forehead looks unexceptional to me.

In the video he was pointing to a mark. Anyway, how do you explain the contrast on the image of his chest that I uploaded in the previous comment?
I know salt and pepper chest hair seems like a miracle to a 19 year old but trust me, it's not. Goes gray in other places too, even down there. Found a white one the other day, reckon I was groped by Jesus, Jake?
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 12, 2018, 05:08:10 pm
He's a middle aged dude and his forehead looks unexceptional to me.

In the video he was pointing to a mark. Anyway, how do you explain the contrast on the image of his chest that I uploaded in the previous comment?
I know salt and pepper chest hair seems like a miracle to a 19 year old but trust me, it's not. Goes gray in other places too, even down there. Found a white one the other day, reckon I was groped by Jesus, Jake?

But his entire chest does not have salt and pepper hair. Only one side does as shown in the picture. How do you explain that?
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 12, 2018, 05:40:17 pm
It's not the case has only white hair, one side has a bit more white than black but still some black hair. This is called getting old Jacob, I am deeply familiar with it as you one day will be!
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 12, 2018, 05:57:08 pm
It's not the case has only white hair, one side has a bit more white than black but still some black hair. This is called getting old Jacob, I am deeply familiar with it as you one day will be!

If that was the case then it would be more uniform throughout. There wouldn't be one side with pretty much all dark hair, and one side with mostly white hair.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 12, 2018, 06:40:13 pm
Since when did hair always grow white uniformly? Haven't you ever heard of people with silver streaks in theie hair?
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 12, 2018, 07:22:00 pm
Since when did hair always grow white uniformly? Haven't you ever heard of people with silver streaks in theie hair?

This image shows that it was in only in that one specific spot on his where his hair is white. As you can see the rest of his hair on his body is dark.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 13, 2018, 07:45:58 am
I see that the image is irrefutable evidence.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Art Vandelay on September 13, 2018, 07:55:27 am
I see that the image is irrefutable evidence.
Of course you do.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 13, 2018, 07:59:46 am
I see that the image is irrefutable evidence.
Of course you do.

Because it proves that only one spot of his body has white hair, showing that it is not caused by aging and that Jesus really did touch him.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 13, 2018, 09:51:36 am
I see that the image is irrefutable evidence.
I see an old guy flashing his tits!
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 13, 2018, 10:28:49 am
I see that the image is irrefutable evidence.
I see an old guy flashing his tits!

How do you explain that it is ONLY ONE SPOT ON HIS BODY that has white hair while the rest is dark? That shows that aging can't be the explanation.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Art Vandelay on September 13, 2018, 10:42:57 am
How do you explain that it is ONLY ONE SPOT ON HIS BODY that has white hair while the rest is dark? That shows that aging can't be the explanation.
Are you familiar with Occan's Razor? If not, it basically says that the explanation with the fewest baseless assumptions is the most likely to be correct. Apply it to this scenario. Obviously, "God did it" is an absolute bonanza of huge assumptions not just about the situation at hand, but the overall nature of reality, all with nary a shred of evidence in their favour. Bearing this in mind, can you think of any other possible explanations for this guy's white spot? He and others involved in the video are either complete nobodies or known Christian proselytisers. With modern cosmetics, a patch of supposedly paler chest hair isn't exactly difficult to do. Perhaps they're just making it up. Are there any unproven assertions involved in that hypothesis, particularly assertions that contradict objective facts about the nature of the entire known universe? Yes, but far fewer than the "God did it" theory, wouldn't you say? Hell, what if we say he rolled onto a stick of chalk in his sleep? Again, quite a stretch, definitely more so than the "video is bullshit" assertion, but nothing on the level of "an all knowing, all powerful space wizard is attempting to communicate through the power of dreams and psychically fucking with the colour of his chest hair".

Now, do you see why your Youtube anecdotes aren't converting anyone?
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 13, 2018, 11:13:45 am
How do you explain that it is ONLY ONE SPOT ON HIS BODY that has white hair while the rest is dark? That shows that aging can't be the explanation.
Are you familiar with Occan's Razor? If not, it basically says that the explanation with the fewest baseless assumptions is the most likely to be correct. Apply it to this scenario. Obviously, "God did it" is an absolute bonanza of huge assumptions not just about the situation at hand, but the overall nature of reality, all with nary a shred of evidence in their favour. Bearing this in mind, can you think of any other possible explanations for this guy's white spot? He and others involved in the video are either complete nobodies or known Christian proselytisers. With modern cosmetics, a patch of supposedly paler chest hair isn't exactly difficult to do. Perhaps they're just making it up. Are there any unproven assertions involved in that hypothesis, particularly assertions that contradict objective facts about the nature of the entire known universe? Yes, but far fewer than the "God did it" theory, wouldn't you say? Hell, what if we say he rolled onto a stick of chalk in his sleep? Again, quite a stretch, definitely more so than the "video is bullshit" assertion, but nothing on the level of "an all knowing, all powerful space wizard is attempting to communicate through the power of dreams and psychically fucking with the colour of his chest hair".

Now, do you see why your Youtube anecdotes aren't converting anyone?

But why would a man of Muslim background make up a story of being touched by Jesus Christ risking alienation from his fellow Muslims?
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Art Vandelay on September 13, 2018, 11:26:11 am
But why would a man of Muslim background make up a story of being touched by Jesus Christ risking alienation from his fellow Muslims?
How do you know he's actually a Muslim in the first place? Because he (i.e. the guy who's possibly already spouting bullshit on camera) said so? Come on, you're not even trying.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 13, 2018, 12:26:58 pm
But why would a man of Muslim background make up a story of being touched by Jesus Christ risking alienation from his fellow Muslims?
How do you know he's actually a Muslim in the first place? Because he (i.e. the guy who's possibly already spouting bullshit on camera) said so? Come on, you're not even trying.

He said he’s from Turkey, looks Turkish, and most Turks are Muslim.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Svata on September 13, 2018, 12:38:18 pm
People are capable of doing this thing called "lying," Jacob
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: niam2023 on September 13, 2018, 10:19:26 pm
So you're admitting you racially profiled him then.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Art Vandelay on September 13, 2018, 10:53:56 pm
But why would a man of Muslim background make up a story of being touched by Jesus Christ risking alienation from his fellow Muslims?
How do you know he's actually a Muslim in the first place? Because he (i.e. the guy who's possibly already spouting bullshit on camera) said so? Come on, you're not even trying.

He said he’s from Turkey, looks Turkish, and most Turks are Muslim.

It's amazing how many people are willing to lie for $50 or so.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 14, 2018, 03:18:26 am
As for that photo, it's not as you describe. There isn't one spot that is stark white contrasted with stark black. It's one patch with a bit more white than black. They're old man tits, not chess squares.

Seriously, teen doodles and grandad's salt and pepper boobies? This is all it takes to convince you? You're a Nigerian Prince's wet dream! Are you one of those people who clicks on flashing banner ads proclaiming you're the millionth visitor? I pity your parents as it's likely their credit card account you're accessing!
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 14, 2018, 08:03:57 am
But why would a man of Muslim background make up a story of being touched by Jesus Christ risking alienation from his fellow Muslims?
How do you know he's actually a Muslim in the first place? Because he (i.e. the guy who's possibly already spouting bullshit on camera) said so? Come on, you're not even trying.

He said he’s from Turkey, looks Turkish, and most Turks are Muslim.

It's amazing how many people are willing to lie for $50 or so.

He can’t lie about his ethnicity because he clearly looks Turkish.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Jacob Harrison on September 14, 2018, 08:08:52 am
As for that photo, it's not as you describe. There isn't one spot that is stark white contrasted with stark black. It's one patch with a bit more white than black. They're old man tits, not chess squares.

Seriously, teen doodles and grandad's salt and pepper boobies? This is all it takes to convince you? You're a Nigerian Prince's wet dream! Are you one of those people who clicks on flashing banner ads proclaiming you're the millionth visitor? I pity your parents as it's likely their credit card account you're accessing!

Don’t you see that there is no white on any other part of his body? And I don’t see much black on the white patch.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Art Vandelay on September 14, 2018, 08:14:51 am
He can’t lie about his ethnicity because he clearly looks Turkish.
I'm talking about him converting over a dream, Einstein. That's the part of the story that's bullshit, not him being Turkish.
Title: Re: This Muslim man was touched by Jesus and got a mark! This video proves it!
Post by: Tolpuddle Martyr on September 14, 2018, 10:24:51 am
As for that photo, it's not as you describe. There isn't one spot that is stark white contrasted with stark black. It's one patch with a bit more white than black. They're old man tits, not chess squares.

Seriously, teen doodles and grandad's salt and pepper boobies? This is all it takes to convince you? You're a Nigerian Prince's wet dream! Are you one of those people who clicks on flashing banner ads proclaiming you're the millionth visitor? I pity your parents as it's likely their credit card account you're accessing!

Don’t you see that there is no white on any other part of his body? And I don’t see much black on the white patch.
I see there's no white on any other part of his body that's shown.

At a certain age you get white hair in all sorts of weird places.

It's also blurry, the light is shithouse and the angle makes it plenty likely that one side looks lighter than the other because it's closer to the light source.