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Society and History / Re: Gillete Ad Upsets Manosphere Crybabies
« Last post by Chaos Undivided on Today at 01:12:35 am »
You're forgetting the useless bystanders.  Guess into what category most people fall?

Except that, again, bullying and harassment generally happen away from prying eyes. How can somebody be a "useless bystander" if they don't even know what's going on? If my neighbors are giving classified information to the Russians without my knowledge, am I a "useless bystander" for not confronting them about it?
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Society and History / Re: Gillete Ad Upsets Manosphere Crybabies
« Last post by RavynousHunter on Today at 12:35:04 am »
You're forgetting the useless bystanders.  Guess into what category most people fall?
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Politics and Government / Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Last post by Chaos Undivided on January 19, 2019, 11:57:59 pm »
Well, I remember Lieberman... and how Ned Lamont took the piss out of his incessant attack ads.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWSN2zbydKw" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWSN2zbydKw</a>
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Religion and Philosophy / Re: The most badass movie about not Masterbating EVER!
« Last post by DarkPhoenix on January 19, 2019, 11:21:50 pm »
BTW, anyone check the COMMENTS on that fucking video?  Holy shit...

Best one, though, is the guy who says he masturbated to this video, what with all the phallic imagery...
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Politics and Government / Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Last post by DarkPhoenix on January 19, 2019, 11:17:34 pm »

There was also her schooling democracy-stealing former Governor of Wisconsin Scott Walker on marginal tax rates after she suggested the moderate policy of a 70% marginal rate on income over $10,000,000:

And this prompted washed-up-piece-of-shit Joe Lieberman to come out of wherever the fuck he was hiding to get into the "attack AOC" act... And now he's angry she acted like she didn't know who he was ;)

Most people remember you, Joe.  You're the piece of shit who wrecked the true potential of Obamacare and was a boil on the side of the Democratic Party for decades.
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Society and History / Re: Gillete Ad Upsets Manosphere Crybabies
« Last post by Chaos Undivided on January 19, 2019, 10:31:43 pm »
Ok, let's clear something up real quick. Gillette isn't trying to change the world. They're trying to sell grossly overpriced shaving products. Company, profits, fuck all else. Same page? Good. Now we can move on to what the hell were they trying to do with this marketing campaign.
That add wasn't for the dude beating his wife. It wasn't for the sleazy guy at the end of the bar hitting on every woman walking to the restroom. It was for "most men" who are doing the right thing. It was saying call out the people not going the right thing. Hell, maybe even stop them.

Tell me, do you also get mad at adds telling you to not drink and drive? Or to get help if you have an addiction? How about those weight loss guys? Are they telling you you're fat?

We seem to be having a failure to communicate. My problem isn't with the message itself. Essentially, it boils down to "do the right thing", "set a good example", "be the best that you can be", etc. These are not inherently bad messages. Unfortunately, even a good message can be delivered poorly. And this ad delivers its message very, very badly.

I don't get offended by "don't drink and drive" PSAs because they don't say most men have problems with drunk driving. I don't get offended by "get help for your addiction" PSAs because they don't say most men are drug addicts. This ad says that only "some" men are saying the right things and acting the right way. Which means that most are not.

That's one of the main reasons it's rankling me. It's not that I think criticizing bullying and sexual harassment is somehow an attack on my gender. It's that they're saying only a minority of men are acting like decent people, with zero evidence to back it up.
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Politics and Government / Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Last post by dpareja on January 19, 2019, 10:31:19 pm »
Best take I've heard: "If they keep attacking her like this, they're gonna accidentally make her President."
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Politics and Government / Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Last post by Chaos Undivided on January 19, 2019, 10:14:08 pm »
Yeah, nothing wrong with criticizing AOC, but I think a lot of her critics are a little too fixated on her. It doesn't help that they keep choosing the dumbest reasons to attack her.
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Politics and Government / Re: The lead-up to the 2018 midterms begins
« Last post by dpareja on January 19, 2019, 10:07:41 pm »
DAAAAAAAAAAAAMN!

The right really does fear AOC for some reason.  Like they can't really marginalize her in a way that'll make her just go away.

Ironbite-that scares them.

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I'm at a political science conference and can safely report that political scientists don't really know what to make of @AOC, either.

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I'll tell you what's going on. She represents ME. She represents everyone I know. She represents the normal people. She cares about OUR interests. In my lifetime I have NEVER felt this represented before in government. It's time for government to work for us, as it was intended. To all the people coming out of the woodwork to spew hate: I love that she represents you too, and that her policies will benefit you as well. I feel sorry for all those that can't or won't see this.

Her maiden speech on the floor is already the most-watched video in C-SPAN history, apparently: https://www.c-span.org/video/?456929-2/237-187-house-passes-121-billion-disaster-relief-bill-february-8 (at 7:03:19, roughly 4 minutes)

There was also her schooling democracy-stealing former Governor of Wisconsin Scott Walker on marginal tax rates after she suggested the moderate policy of a 70% marginal rate on income over $10,000,000:

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Explaining tax rates before Reagan to 5th graders: “Imagine if you did chores for your grandma and she gave you $10.  When you got home, your parents took $7 from you.”  The students said: “That’s not fair!” Even 5th graders get it.

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Explaining marginal taxes to a far-right former Governor:

Imagine if you did chores for abuela & she gave you $10. When you got home, you got to keep it, because it’s only $10.

Then we taxed the billionaire in town because he’s making tons of money underpaying the townspeople.

On another note... https://morningconsult.com/2019/01/10/americas-most-and-least-popular-senators-q4-2018/

Susan Collins is still 13th in approval for Senators. (Slipping, but well above water.)
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No Kirk Cameron.

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