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Science and Technology / Re: Google facing multiple lawsuits
« Last post by Askold on February 17, 2018, 11:29:35 am »
Yeah, Pichai and Wojcicki don't say anything like what Damore's rant did.
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Science and Technology / Re: Google facing multiple lawsuits
« Last post by SCarpelan on February 17, 2018, 10:46:44 am »
Guess who didn't read their own link again?
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Science and Technology / Re: Google facing multiple lawsuits
« Last post by Lana Reverse on February 17, 2018, 10:22:58 am »
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Aaand JUSTICE: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-02-16/google-firing-of-damore-was-legal-u-s-labor-panel-lawyer-said

Not the way he wanted it to go but definitely fair.

This article is a nothingburger. An employee who believes they were unfairly terminated can ask the NLRB for relief without having to sue (not sure on the legal specifics). Damore did that, but he already dropped the complaint and decided to sue instead. This memo is something a lawyer wrote while the complaint was still pending, and is now public. A more accurate headline would be something along the lines of "NLRB Lawyer Would've Recommended Ruling against Damore".

By the way, you might be interested to know that Pichai and Wojcicki recently said things similar to what Damore said.
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Science and Technology / Re: Google facing multiple lawsuits
« Last post by ironbite on February 17, 2018, 08:36:05 am »
So anything from Lana on this particular Hill she's chosen to die on?

Ironbite-so satisfying
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Science and Technology / Re: Google facing multiple lawsuits
« Last post by Askold on February 17, 2018, 05:59:12 am »
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Society and History / Re: Good Things People Say on the Internet
« Last post by Askold on February 17, 2018, 03:25:23 am »
It was pointed out elsewhere that if the 2nd amendment is supposed to protect US citizens from tyranny of the government and if more than 90% of them want tougher gun control laws, then why won't the and amendment supporters use their guns to take down the government and enforce the will of the people?

...Oh that's right, they don't care about the will of the people as long as they get to keep their guns.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by dpareja on February 16, 2018, 09:49:56 pm »
I can - and I do because of all our current populist has done. This election has convinced me of one thing - populism will always burn everything that came before it to ashes.

Sanders spoke of borders, he created an insurgent wing of the Democrats that routinely smears everyone not in their wing, and there was much the same "workers party" rhetoric.

Demagogues no matter their stripe are bad.

What you've seen are the right-wing manifestations of populism, largely because the left has been unwilling or unable to harness that same sentiment to the same degree.

As for demagoguery...

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A political leader who seeks support by appealing to popular desires and prejudices rather than by using rational argument.

Are you really going to say Sanders didn't use rational argument? Yes, he appealed to popular desires--but he justified his calls for those policies with rational argumentation.

Plus, the term has the connotation of being dishonest, and if you think Sanders is dishonest, I don't think you're listening to the same person I am.

I would also say that he didn't create that wing; he energized it.

And if you think Sanders would have done any of the things I listed (with the caveat that, had he done so, it would only have been to replace them with something demonstrably superior--single-payer instead of the ACA, for instance), then you are, quite simply, lying to yourself. Why you are, I don't know, but that is all it is--self-deceit.

But here's the thing: like it or not, there is a populist wave coming--the first tides have already hit the shores. Decide for yourself to which ideology you would prefer to see it attach, but don't pretend that it will be turned back.

Also, don't pretend Trump is a populist. He is so only in rhetoric (and even then not always), and his policies and the people with whom he has surrounded himself are entirely rooted in the political establishment.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by niam2023 on February 16, 2018, 09:28:57 pm »
I can - and I do because of all our current populist has done. This election has convinced me of one thing - populism will always burn everything that came before it to ashes.

Sanders spoke of borders, he created an insurgent wing of the Democrats that routinely smears everyone not in their wing, and there was much the same "workers party" rhetoric.

Demagogues no matter their stripe are bad.
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Politics and Government / Re: Something I've noticed about Republicans.
« Last post by Skybison on February 16, 2018, 08:59:27 pm »
^What I meant is that they've have been lying in an echo chamber for so long that they believe all their own lies at this point.  So the claim that they "know what they're doing" isn't in my opinion true.  The guys running the republican party and the oil companies have convinced themselves that science is a communist plot to destroy capitalism.

That the lies are self serving helps them believe it, but they really do believe it.
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Politics and Government / Re: Something I've noticed about Republicans.
« Last post by Art Vandelay on February 16, 2018, 08:48:22 pm »
@ Art My big counter to that would be global warming.  It's in no-one's interest to destroy the planet, yet whether or not carbon traps heat in the atmosphere is now as partisan an issue as abortion.
So you're saying oil and other fossil fuel producers aren't actively pushing for climate change denial, including political lobbying? I would agree that fucking up the environment is just as much against the interests of their executives and shareholders as everyone else (even more so, given how much more they stand to lose), yet it's a demonstrable fact that that's certainly not stopping them.
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