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Missouri Attempts to Circumvent Federal Laws
« on: August 30, 2013, 12:52:46 pm »
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Basically, Missouri is attempting to pass a bunch of laws to make it harder for the federal government to enforce gun control laws, and in particular the Affordable Care Act. Because STATES' RIGHTS!!!!1!!One!+!"!!!

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If you ever wondered what a 21st century nullification crisis would look like, look no further than Missouri. One hundred and forty eight years after the end of the Civil War, the New York Times reports, "the Republican-controlled Missouri legislature is expected to enact a statute next month nullifying all federal gun laws in the state and making it a crime for federal agents to enforce them." Meanwhile, the Show Me State is doing everything it can to effectively block implementation of the Affordable Care Act.

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While the Missouri GOP is seeking the de jure nullification of federal firearms laws, Show Me State Republicans are also pursuing the de facto nullification of Obamacare.

An estimated 877,000 people in Missouri are currently uninsured. But despite Governor Nixon's best effort, Republican legislators block the expansion of Medicaid, leaving 267,000 in Missouri stuck in the "coverage gap." All told, some 5.5 million people in GOP-dominated states, McClatchy explained, will find themselves  trapped in "a bureaucratic twilight zone where people with poverty-level incomes don't qualify for Medicaid and can't get tax credits to help buy coverage on the new insurance marketplaces."

But in Missouri, things will be even worse. Republicans there didn't just refuse to accept billions in federal Medicaid dollars or set up their own state health care exchange. They are actively undermining any outreach or customer service for Show Me State residents seeking information about or help enrolling in new insurance plans made possible by the Affordable Care Act.
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Re: Missouri Attempts to Circumvent Federal Laws
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2013, 12:54:29 pm »
Misery in Missouri.   Original, I know.

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Re: Missouri Attempts to Circumvent Federal Laws
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2013, 01:28:28 pm »
/facedesk /facedesk /facedesk /facedesk /facedesk

I don't even know what to say. It's too stupid.
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Re: Missouri Attempts to Circumvent Federal Laws
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2013, 01:29:30 pm »
It also dies before it can be implemented.

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Re: Missouri Attempts to Circumvent Federal Laws
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2013, 01:30:54 pm »
Huh, I thought this thing had already been killed.

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Re: Missouri Attempts to Circumvent Federal Laws
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2013, 01:34:08 pm »
It also dies before it can be implemented.

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Let's hope so. States are getting insane. I wouldn't be surprised if the National Guard ends up involved at this rate.
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Re: Missouri Attempts to Circumvent Federal Laws
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2013, 01:50:19 pm »
I don't see why they're all up ons about it.  If federal would just trump it, why bring the state into it to begin with?  Is it like a protest, or maybe they think they can persuade the federal govt. to see things their way?

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Re: Missouri Attempts to Circumvent Federal Laws
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2013, 01:57:00 pm »
I don't see why they're all up ons about it.  If federal would just trump it, why bring the state into it to begin with?  Is it like a protest, or maybe they think they can persuade the federal govt. to see things their way?
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Re: Missouri Attempts to Circumvent Federal Laws
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2013, 01:58:39 pm »
^Ah... I had a feeling that was the case.

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Re: Missouri Attempts to Circumvent Federal Laws
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2013, 02:33:32 pm »
They probably don't know that federal law trumps state law. Or they're stupid enough to think they can write a law that allows them to ignore that fact.
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Re: Missouri Attempts to Circumvent Federal Laws
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2013, 02:34:22 pm »
They probably don't know that federal law trumps state law. Or they're stupid enough to think they can write a law that allows them to ignore that fact.

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Re: Missouri Attempts to Circumvent Federal Laws
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2013, 03:03:19 pm »
They're counting on the 10th Amendment which gives any power not specifically granted to the Federal Government to the States and vice versa.  But, if the Federal Government suddenly makes a law that directly impacts the States, the States have to suck it up and go with it.  They can challenge, which they're certainly doing right now, but in the end, Federal Courts will side with the Federal Government especially with laws that have long standing.

Ironbite-also the Federal Government can choose what to do with any State law...such as certain state drug laws that have been passed recently.