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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #855 on: March 31, 2017, 09:58:34 pm »
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Yeah, I think it's safe to say that Mel Brooks as the governor in Blazing Saddles would be more likely to veto something like this than Trump.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #856 on: March 31, 2017, 10:01:22 pm »
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Yeah, I think it's safe to say that Mel Brooks as the governor in Blazing Saddles would be more likely to veto something like this than Trump.

I don't doubt Trump will sign it. I can only hope the Dems (all of whom opposed the resolution, save only the three Representatives who did not vote) make a campaign issue out of it in 2018.

Because I will bet any amount of money that if you asked any number of random people on the street whether they think ISPs should be able to sell their personal browsing histories to third parties, the answer would be an overwhelming "NO!"
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #857 on: March 31, 2017, 11:04:33 pm »
If it's done right, I'd be okay with this. If ISPs do what social media has been doing ever since it was a thing and offer their service for free in exchange for selling your data, while also giving the option of paying and keeping your data to yourself if you so desire, that would be pretty cool.

A shame the current lot far too corrupt and/or incompetent to make it work.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #858 on: March 31, 2017, 11:08:40 pm »
Not to mention they expect you to pay for ISP service, and they expect to be able to sell your data.

I ditched Hulu Plus because they have ads + a subscription fee. Double dipping is not cool.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #859 on: April 01, 2017, 12:29:30 am »
I am not good at defining things, what do you want me to do? I am pretty sure you can see examples on Youtube and elsewhere but SJWs are those far leftists who get offended by everything and want to force their viewpoints on everyone else. Political correctness is basically replacing words are phrases that are deemed "offensive" with words that are less offensive unfortunately this causes censorship and people can't say what they want to say.

I guess I'm going to renege a bit in the interest of asking some questions on this:

1. Which "words and phrases" are being replaced by political correctness? Since you are citing political correctness as a problem that stifles words and phrases, I would like specific examples.

2. How does replacing "offensive" words and phrases "with words that are less offensive" stifle intelligent debate? You can still effectively make the same points, only with slightly different wording to convey the message; it's like telling a story while not saying the "fuck" word in polite company.

3. To what extent should society accept these offensive "words and phrases"? And I want to put emphasis on your use of "words and phrases," in contrast to ideas or thoughts. Words have varying degrees of utility and vulgarity. For example, words like esoteric, opulent, elide, and panacea have high utility (they are fun to say, good to drop in conversation, and are quite specific in their meaning and usage) without vulgarity. In contrast, words and phrases like faggot, "white power," and the n-word have less value (or specificity for that matter) and considerably more vulgarity. So, where do you draw the line on words among these two considerations?

4. Maybe my career path has influenced my views, but I tend to see censorship more as the state restriction on speech, not necessarily adverse social opinions. Said differently, if the state is arresting you for saying something (other than a confession), that is probably a violation of free speech. On the other hand, if society is rejecting what you have to say, then that is the free market place of ideas saying your views have no value to society. So, to what extent should society have to accept offensive words and phrases? If Fred calls Jim the n-word, should society not be free to shun (rather than accept) Fred for his callous disregard for basic decency?

5. How does the concept of "social justice warriors" validate Casino Mussolini for president? Social Justice Warriors are typically people on the internet who get called "cucks" by people with an odd penchant for a certain internet frog: not politicians or legislators. Saying "I'm voting for Donald Trump because of social justice warriors" is rather akin to saying "I'm voting for Frank Underwood so that Tyrion doesn't get killed in season 7": It's a non sequitur wherein the action taken is unrelated to the perceived problem.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #860 on: April 01, 2017, 01:01:44 am »



2. How does replacing "offensive" words and phrases "with words that are less offensive" stifle intelligent debate? You can still effectively make the same points, only with slightly different wording to convey the message; it's like telling a story while not saying the "fuck" word in polite company.



If you do away with the prohibition against 'vulgar language' you get Australia. I've heard sweet old grandmothers say "fuck you, cunt" in passing.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #861 on: April 01, 2017, 01:07:47 am »



2. How does replacing "offensive" words and phrases "with words that are less offensive" stifle intelligent debate? You can still effectively make the same points, only with slightly different wording to convey the message; it's like telling a story while not saying the "fuck" word in polite company.



If you do away with the prohibition against 'vulgar language' you get Australia. I've heard sweet old grandmothers say "fuck you, cunt" in passing.

Well, your country is weird. Seriously, the fuck is vegemite?
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #862 on: April 01, 2017, 01:42:46 am »
Its the left over yeast from the brewing process, also it is life.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #863 on: April 01, 2017, 09:00:58 am »
So, all the shit flavour of beer without the only reason one consumes said libation, ethanol?
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #864 on: April 01, 2017, 09:02:52 am »



2. How does replacing "offensive" words and phrases "with words that are less offensive" stifle intelligent debate? You can still effectively make the same points, only with slightly different wording to convey the message; it's like telling a story while not saying the "fuck" word in polite company.



If you do away with the prohibition against 'vulgar language' you get Australia. I've heard sweet old grandmothers say "fuck you, cunt" in passing.

Well, your country is weird. Seriously, the fuck is vegemite?
The stuff scraped off the bottom of the Carlton United Breweries vat.

People spread it on their toast!

also it is life.

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #865 on: April 02, 2017, 02:16:25 am »
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=1&vote=00101

The Senate on March 30 passed H.J. Res. 43, which will allow states to withhold Title X funding from Planned Parenthood.

The vote was evenly split. No Democratic or Independent Senator (both Independents caucus with the Democrats) voted for the resolution. Additionally, Sens. Collins (R-ME) and Murkowski (R-AK) voted against the resolution. Vice President Pence cast a tiebreaking vote passing the resolution.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll099.xml

When the House voted on the matter, on February 16, it passed 230-188. Reps. Lipinski (D-IL 3rd) and Peterson (D-MN 7th) voted in favour of the resolution, and Reps. Dent (R-PA 15th) and Faso (R-NY 19th) voted against it; the vote was otherwise party-line. Speaker Ryan did not vote. Also not voting were Reps. Amodei (R-NV 2nd), Barton (R-TX 6th), Bass (D-CA 37th), Bishop (D-GA 2nd), Butterfield (D-NC 1st), Cramer (R-ND At Large), Curbelo (R-FL 26th), Richmond (D-LA 2nd), Rush (D-IL 1st), Stewart (R-UT 2nd), Trott (R-MI 11th), and Zinke (R-MT At Large). There were four vacancies at the time of the vote.
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #866 on: April 03, 2017, 07:15:19 pm »
Ok, so I had a few days to look over what I said and did and I know this is not the thread for it but I actually did do some reading on Trump and... most of you are right and quite frankly I wouldn't have voted for him if it wasn't due to populism, which is what it was. But the thing is, it's done and now we have to deal with this guy for the next 4 years and he'll probably be a 1 term president. I really don't have any more to say really, so sorry?
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #867 on: April 03, 2017, 08:35:57 pm »
Hey Radiation, what state do you vote in?

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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #868 on: April 03, 2017, 08:36:44 pm »
I live in Michigan, why?
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Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Reply #869 on: April 03, 2017, 09:49:00 pm »
I live in Michigan, why?

Oh, sharp as a pillow, aren't you?
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