It pisses me off that some of my friends state to eachother “oh, don’t show her that because she’s a feminist” as if it’s a bad thing.
I can laugh at pictures just fine, thanks. Don’t bring my stance on women’s rights into this. Just because you’re narrow minded doesn’t mean that you have to assume I am.
Roper: "So, now you give the Devil the benefit of law!"
More: "Yes! What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil?"
Roper: "I'd cut down every law in England to do that!"
More: "Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws, from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's! And if you cut them down, and you're just the man to do it, do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I'd give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!"
#BelieveWomen, eh? Riddle me this: if a woman claims she was raped by another woman, and the other woman denies it, which one do you believe?
Quote#BelieveWomen, eh? Riddle me this: if a woman claims she was raped by another woman, and the other woman denies it, which one do you believe?
Quote#BelieveWomen, eh? Riddle me this: if a woman claims she was raped by another woman, and the other woman denies it, which one do you believe?
The one with the most evidence on her side.
Quote#BelieveWomen, eh? Riddle me this: if a woman claims she was raped by another woman, and the other woman denies it, which one do you believe?
The one with the most evidence on her side.
The hashtag is about how women should always be believed and asking for evidence of a rape is misogynist.
A right wing Christian group in Australia tried to destroy a LGBTQ dance for gay youth by buying out all the tickets so the kids couldn't pick up any...
...but the campaign wasn't selling tickets, it was a crowdfunding campaign (http://www.rawstory.com/2016/02/backfire-right-wing-plot-to-ruin-lgbtq-dance-raises-thousands-for-the-gala-instead/comments/#disqus).
And the bigots funded the dance. ;D
As someone with a crippling fear of using public restrooms, let me just say that these laws are absolutely fucking terrible. Being forced to use the bathroom is public is a terrible enough experience on its own without being hounded about your gender identity. Say you really need to piss but all the stalls are taken. Not only do you have to stand there and hold it in, but you and have to listen to a bunch of people you don’t know voiding their bowels and bladders. Sometimes when they’re done they don’t even both to wipe the seat or flush. They just leave the crap sitting in the stall, rendering it unusable.
Why make the process more embarrassing and gross than it already is by default?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxaPt_4ANk4
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What these people need to understand is that transgender is not itself a gender. You still are either male or female, just, due to an accident of biochemistry, your body didn't get the memo.
People like Captain Safetypin who turn themselves into mix and match sideshow freaks aren't transgender, it's not about being the opposite sex, it's about being special, and being as weird and as in your face about it as possible to deliberately freak other people out, so you can then get victim points and get on your high horse about how they're oppressing you.
QuoteWhat these people need to understand is that transgender is not itself a gender. You still are either male or female, just, due to an accident of biochemistry, your body didn't get the memo.
People like Captain Safetypin who turn themselves into mix and match sideshow freaks aren't transgender, it's not about being the opposite sex, it's about being special, and being as weird and as in your face about it as possible to deliberately freak other people out, so you can then get victim points and get on your high horse about how they're oppressing you.
Context? Because outside of it (and possibly even within it), that's sounding uncomfortably like:
"Nonbinary genders and/or nonbinary gender presentation are Freakshows, and the people who openly express themselves in such a manner are deliberately putting them on for you, Cis Reader. Because the notion of them actually living their truths is offensively impossible."
Do you mean "cis people pretending to be transgender for... some reason" transtrenders or "noncis people who experience their gender in a way that does not fall into a gender binary and aren't closeted about it" transtrenders? Because calling the latter kind "transtrenders" is skeevy as nobs.
Do you mean "cis people pretending to be transgender for... some reason" transtrenders or "noncis people who experience their gender in a way that does not fall into a gender binary and aren't closeted about it" transtrenders? Because calling the latter kind "transtrenders" is skeevy as nobs.
The former.
Do you mean "cis people pretending to be transgender for... some reason" transtrenders or "noncis people who experience their gender in a way that does not fall into a gender binary and aren't closeted about it" transtrenders? Because calling the latter kind "transtrenders" is skeevy as nobs.
The former.
Do you mean "cis people pretending to be transgender for... some reason" transtrenders or "noncis people who experience their gender in a way that does not fall into a gender binary and aren't closeted about it" transtrenders? Because calling the latter kind "transtrenders" is skeevy as nobs.
The former.
Um. Cis people saying they are trans is a thing that happens enough to be a problem now?
So how can you define that any given trans person is "faking it", aside from them literally coming out and saying "I'm actually cis but I'm pretending to be trans for cool points even though trans people are dehumanized pretty much all around"?
So, your criteria for "fake trans" is "doesn't experience body dysphoria".
So, your criteria for "fake trans" is "doesn't experience body dysphoria".
Isn't experiencing gender dysphoria the definition of being trans? Before SRS, of course.
So how can you define that any given trans person is "faking it", aside from them literally coming out and saying "I'm actually cis but I'm pretending to be trans for cool points even though trans people are dehumanized pretty much all around"?
They outright said they didn't experience dysphoria, but still considered themselves trans.
If somebody really is "faking it" and you as a casual observer give them the benefit of a doubt there is little harm done. If they aren't and you mock them thinking they are faking you participate in causing emotional damage to them. Cost-benefit analysis of each action tips the weights clearly to one direction specially when you remember the suicide statistics among transpeople.
If somebody really is "faking it" and you as a casual observer give them the benefit of a doubt there is little harm done. If they aren't and you mock them thinking they are faking you participate in causing emotional damage to them. Cost-benefit analysis of each action tips the weights clearly to one direction specially when you remember the suicide statistics among transpeople.
What if they say "truscum" unironically?
So, your criteria for "fake trans" is "doesn't experience body dysphoria".
Isn't experiencing gender dysphoria the definition of being trans? Before SRS, of course.
Are you sure that your brother is trans?
If somebody really is "faking it" and you as a casual observer give them the benefit of a doubt there is little harm done. If they aren't and you mock them thinking they are faking you participate in causing emotional damage to them. Cost-benefit analysis of each action tips the weights clearly to one direction specially when you remember the suicide statistics among transpeople.
What if they say "truscum" unironically?
If somebody really is "faking it" and you as a casual observer give them the benefit of a doubt there is little harm done. If they aren't and you mock them thinking they are faking you participate in causing emotional damage to them. Cost-benefit analysis of each action tips the weights clearly to one direction specially when you remember the suicide statistics among transpeople.
What if they say "truscum" unironically?
What if a pre-teen boy popped his first boner and splooged in his parents' spaghetti sauce? Seriously, why is it that you're always the one who seems to care so much about some miniscule portion of the internet? Do you really think we're just going to forget your attempt to deny genderqueer people respect for not living up to your bullshit social standards of gender?
If somebody really is "faking it" and you as a casual observer give them the benefit of a doubt there is little harm done. If they aren't and you mock them thinking they are faking you participate in causing emotional damage to them. Cost-benefit analysis of each action tips the weights clearly to one direction specially when you remember the suicide statistics among transpeople.
What if they say "truscum" unironically?
Maybe I'm wrong about this. But hear me out. See, when I see somebody claim to be trans and yet admit to not experiencing dysphoria, my first thought is that they're some fauxgressive snowflake who decided to use the label like it's a fashion accessory. To me, it's like all those idiots who diagnose themselves with autism/ADHD/schizophrenia/whatever. Or to go back a little bit, like the political lesbians of yesteryear.
Why do I think this? My reasoning is simple when you get right down to it. The definition of "gender dysphoria" is feeling uncomfortable with your assigned gender. Logically, this means that people who don't have gender dysphoria have no problem with their assigned gender. Riddle me this: if you feel comfortable with your assigned gender, how can you be trans? The way I see it, it's like claiming to be diabetic when you have normal blood sugar.
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Then again, I could be talking out of my ass, so I'm willing to listen to evidence claiming otherwise.
So where are you pulling "has no discomfort with their assigned gender" from? If """"transtrenders"""" were perfectly comfortable with their assigned gender, they wouldn't be saying that they're something else, now would they? If everyone calls you a woman and at some point you just get tired of correcting them or don't give enough of a shit to, do you magically become a woman?
Direct questions. Actually, come to think of it, the ones in my thread in Flame and Burn are also direct questions now. You know. The one you haven't responded to in two weeks.
According to your research, what percentage of these people are actually out there?
Not too busy to tell trans people they're not trans enough for a cis man's standards, apparently.
Maybe they use the word "dysphoria" in a different way than you. There are several definitions for it, you know. It's entirely possible that the people you're deciding aren't trans are using it to mean "body dysphoria" (not having a need to physically transition), which is a connotation that exists. Or, like Sigma said, an entirely different category of dysphoria than what you're using. Have these people ever actually said "my gender is the gender that was assigned to me at birth"? No? Then let's apply Occam's Razor: which is more likely? A notable-enough amount of these """transtrenders""" lying in the exact same scheme for the exact same purpose, or them expressing their actual selves? (And before you start, I'm not saying there isn't at least one person that has lied about being noncis. But your reasoning for what makes a """transtrender""" is spotty beyond all hell.)
Actually, how do you define dysphoria?
Also, your diabetes analogy is flawed because a gender is not a physical state of wellness or lack thereof, and comparing being noncis to having a disease is pretty iffy.
Maybe I'm wrong about this. But hear me out. See, when I see somebody claim to be trans and yet admit to not experiencing dysphoria, my first thought is that they're some fauxgressive snowflake who decided to use the label like it's a fashion accessory. To me, it's like all those idiots who diagnose themselves with autism/ADHD/schizophrenia/whatever. Or to go back a little bit, like the political lesbians of yesteryear.
Why do I think this? My reasoning is simple when you get right down to it. The definition of "gender dysphoria" is feeling uncomfortable with your assigned gender. Logically, this means that people who don't have gender dysphoria have no problem with their assigned gender. Riddle me this: if you feel comfortable with your assigned gender, how can you be trans? The way I see it, it's like claiming to be diabetic when you have normal blood sugar.
And that's not even getting into how repulsive tucute/transtrender people can be:
Not too busy to tell trans people they're not trans enough for a cis man's standards, apparently.
Maybe they use the word "dysphoria" in a different way than you. There are several definitions for it, you know. It's entirely possible that the people you're deciding aren't trans are using it to mean "body dysphoria" (not having a need to physically transition), which is a connotation that exists. Or, like Sigma said, an entirely different category of dysphoria than what you're using. Have these people ever actually said "my gender is the gender that was assigned to me at birth"? No? Then let's apply Occam's Razor: which is more likely? A notable-enough amount of these """transtrenders""" lying in the exact same scheme for the exact same purpose, or them expressing their actual selves? (And before you start, I'm not saying there isn't at least one person that has lied about being noncis. But your reasoning for what makes a """transtrender""" is spotty beyond all hell.)
Actually, how do you define dysphoria?
Also, your diabetes analogy is flawed because a gender is not a physical state of wellness or lack thereof, and comparing being noncis to having a disease is pretty iffy.
Huh. Good points.
Fine then. I'll drop it. At least for now
Maybe I'm wrong about this. But hear me out. See, when I see somebody claim to be trans and yet admit to not experiencing dysphoria, my first thought is that they're some fauxgressive snowflake who decided to use the label like it's a fashion accessory. To me, it's like all those idiots who diagnose themselves with autism/ADHD/schizophrenia/whatever. Or to go back a little bit, like the political lesbians of yesteryear.
Why do I think this? My reasoning is simple when you get right down to it. The definition of "gender dysphoria" is feeling uncomfortable with your assigned gender. Logically, this means that people who don't have gender dysphoria have no problem with their assigned gender. Riddle me this: if you feel comfortable with your assigned gender, how can you be trans? The way I see it, it's like claiming to be diabetic when you have normal blood sugar.
And that's not even getting into how repulsive tucute/transtrender people can be:
Bullshit, your post specifically took umbrage with those "who turn themselves into mix and match sideshow freaks aren't transgender, it's not about being the opposite sex, it's about being special." Your post ridiculed those who do not conform to and reinforce the gender binary--most notably genderqueer people. Seriously dude, why does this bother you? They're not hurting anyone. They don't identify as male or female: but neither or an in-between. All they're really doing is blurring the lines behind bullshit social norms surrounding gender (and gender as a social construct is silly). They're not hurting people, they're active members of the transgender community (words matter, transgender is a catchall for any gender-variance and included genderqueer people, transsexual is one who typically transitions through hormonal or surgical means). Just because you found an idiot on the internet does not reinforce you post, and subsequent posts, ridiculing genderqueer people for not fitting into the gender-binary.
Second, both you and the post tied gender dysphoria to genitals, saying "Isn't experiencing gender dysphoria the definition of being trans? Before SRS, of course." What you post and what you say repesents an outdated view by the medical professionals that was abandoned in the early 80's. I repeat, there is no qualification about feeling dysphoria regarding your genitals in order to be trans. Your post subsequently erased and ridiculed them as phonies for not living up to your expectation of a transsexual. There are a number of trans-individuals who do not want reassignment surgery, they are called non-ops. The prevalence is more common in FtMs than MtFs, and that is why I asked--twice--if your brother is trans, which of course Paragon never responds.
And that is pretty shitty dude. You make up having a trans-individual in your family for one debate with Ghoti so that you could tell him that trans-people need to glorify cis-culture if we want rights. You know, that whole "win the hearts and minds" bullshit. Almost as if the onus for solving transphobia should fall on trans-individuals to be nicer and better people, instead of on cissexuals (as an aggregated group) to...you know... NOT DISCRIMINATE. The fact that you would make up such a story highlights your intellectual dishonesty. You don't care about pesky things like facts or reality (with its known liberal bias), you care only about pushing your misogynist and transphobic agenda. The fact that you made up such a story also proves that you are a concern troll, interested only in pulling the board towards your opinions. Funny, that most of those issues involve women, and you like to take the side that is harmful to women.
Not too busy to tell trans people they're not trans enough for a cis man's standards, apparently.
Maybe they use the word "dysphoria" in a different way than you. There are several definitions for it, you know. It's entirely possible that the people you're deciding aren't trans are using it to mean "body dysphoria" (not having a need to physically transition), which is a connotation that exists. Or, like Sigma said, an entirely different category of dysphoria than what you're using. Have these people ever actually said "my gender is the gender that was assigned to me at birth"? No? Then let's apply Occam's Razor: which is more likely? A notable-enough amount of these """transtrenders""" lying in the exact same scheme for the exact same purpose, or them expressing their actual selves? (And before you start, I'm not saying there isn't at least one person that has lied about being noncis. But your reasoning for what makes a """transtrender""" is spotty beyond all hell.)
Actually, how do you define dysphoria?
Also, your diabetes analogy is flawed because a gender is not a physical state of wellness or lack thereof, and comparing being noncis to having a disease is pretty iffy.
Huh. Good points.
Fine then. I'll drop it. At least for now
Y'know, when I noticed the 1 pt text, I was half hoping you'd try for eppur si muove. Shame.
Anyway. I'm not sure if you actually expected everyone to miss that, or if you didn't. I'm also not sure which would be worse.
So. I'm kind of pissed off right now. Direct questions:
Do you think people have to binary trans people who experience body dysphoria to be legitimately trans? If not, what do you think it takes for someone to be legitimately trans, and why have you judged some people who call themselves trans to fail that?
There are certain topics that I will comment on with all the arrogance of an expert. There are certain topics I won't touch because I can't ever put myself in the shoes of someone who the topic is concerning.
Ironbite-I suggest UP, you do the same.
No, because it's not a part of the definition of being trans. However, as many have already mentioned, how a person experiences gender dysphoria can vary from person to person, and I've not encountered a single trans person who didn't experience gender dysphoria in some way at some point in their life.
So it's a bit like this metaphor: do you have to have fur to be a mammal? No, you have to be a part of the mammalia class. But pretty much all mammals have some kind of hair at some point in their life (even if it's just tiny peach fuzz).
*facelaws*
God you're fucking stupid.
Ironbite-you're worse then Skyfire.
I think he got the homophones right. 'you're' as in 'you are'. As opposed to your fucking stupid, in that the stupid belongs to you.
But then again mixing up there, their and they're and your and you're and here and hear is a lot fucking easier than cousin and brother. In fact I don't see how that can possibly be a typo.
One thing I do admire about you UP is that you have huge brass hide. I mean you just got caught in a massive lie and didn't even blink.
You are truly Christlike in your ability to dissemble and harder than a viagra laced high school footbal team.
And sometimes, when I get really emotional, I don't think clearly when I type.
And sometimes, when I get really emotional, I don't think clearly when I type.
My head is swimming with punchlines.
*facelaws*
God you're fucking stupid.
Ironbite-you're worse then Skyfire.
Protip: if you want to question somebody else's intelligence, don't mix up your homophones.
But I'll bite. Why do you think I'm stupid?
I see what you are doing there, Queen, but I don't think it's necessary. He implied he asked the question after the advice and it was clear enough that the "misunderstanding" wouldn't have happened if he had read the answer before posting here.
Why would I lie? I've got no reason to. If I really did take the post from Quora, I'd have said I was doing research, and that I planned to ask the question myself.
...Wow. I was prepared to take his word for it that he had actually gone to an LGBT site and asked. If you really did just provide a link to the website and settle the matter, or admit you were wrong.
...Wow. I was prepared to take his word for it that he had actually gone to an LGBT site and asked. If you really did just provide a link to the website and settle the matter, or admit you were wrong.
Why should I? It'll just go in one ear and out the other, like all my evidence that goes against the grain.
...Wow. I was prepared to take his word for it that he had actually gone to an LGBT site and asked. If you really did just provide a link to the website and settle the matter, or admit you were wrong.
Why should I? It'll just go in one ear and out the other, like all my evidence that goes against the grain.
I believe this sums it up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxrWuE5qC5c
Funny that the only site that comes up when googling the quote you gave is Quora. And yes, Google does search 4chan threads.
Alright, I admit it. I posted the question to 4chan's /lgbt/ board.
Why? Two reasons. First, I wanted as much anonymity as possible. Second, I thought it was more convenient, since I didn't have to create an account. In retrospect, maybe I should've expected some plagiarism.
Huh. You sure it's not a glitch or something?
Huh. You sure it's not a glitch or something?
Hm? I still come up with nothing with both 4chan search engines and Google.
I get really emotional when I type and sometimes things just get blurted out. Like my brother is an Astronaut and he told me the earth was totally flat. Oh sorry emotional I meant my cousin. No my cousin's flatmate. No my cousin's flatmate's uncle, no I mean I watched the moon landing, no I mean I saw 2001 a space odyssey but I was high.
I just wish there was some sort of filter to keep my emotions in check when I'm typing before I post. Damn it.
The forums there are just full of awesome people. There is a series of threads for questions about LGBT+ issues. Can't remember which subforum its in.
How UP regards his debate style:
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I say that because my absolute hands down favorite UP defense has always been "Oh, I see. You're using the common definition of _____. I'm using the obscure/made up definition." He did the same with the term personal experience a while back. I forget the dpecifics, but it had to do with either rape or harassment.
McIntyre, a football journalist employed by SBS, lost his job after he sent out some tweets describing the atomic bombs dropped on Japan as ‘the largest single-day terrorist attacks in history’ and decrying ‘widespread rape and theft’ by Anzac soldiers.
No-one suggested his thoughts on military history bore any relationship to his ability to report on soccer matches. He was sacked purely and simply because he voiced the wrong opinion about Anzac Day.
How, then, do we describe the status of Anzac in Australia other than as political correctness? Isn’t this – a huge bureaucratic infrastructure designed to enforce a certain point of view – precisely what conservatives say they decry? Where, then, is the outrage when, every year, the ‘lifestyle cops’ and ‘word police’ find some luckless individual who offends against the PC version of Anzac and do whatever they can to punish him or her?
Nor is this an isolated example. The incessant Murdoch thinkpieces lambasting the censorious campus left masks the extent to which social conservatism has embraced a turbocharged version of the identity politics it ostensibly decries. Right-wing political correctness has emerged alongside an embrace of victimology, an obsession with quotas and representation (think of those articles totting up the precise number of conservatives appearing on each ABC show), and a tribal commitment to doctrine rather than evidence (the words ‘climate change’ come to mind). The offence-mongering over Ward’s Facebook is entirely typical: the people mocking university trigger warnings are themselves perpetually triggered, existing in a permanent lather of indignation over the scandals they whip up and reflexively demanding censorship of the ideas and the people with whom they disagree.
Yes, you can find that stuff on the left as well. But the difference is, of course, the right’s far more able to deploy real power to enforce its own brand of political correctness. Consider national security, another key shibboleth. When Zaky Mallah appeared on Q&A, the hysterical demands to implement tighter controls on that show were made in an environment in which anti-terror laws have dramatically reduced basic freedoms. As Jacqueline Maley notes in the Age, the Abbott government implemented legislation that left journalists facing ten years jail for reporting on ‘special intelligence operations’ carried out by ASIO. That came on top of all the other curtailments of liberty made in the name of fighting terror: the powers to ban books, declare organisations illegal, hold people without charges and all sorts of other innovations that strike at the basic values of liberal democracy.
That’s the context for the Australian’s bizarre contortions over Roz Ward. ‘Ms Ward is hardly a victim of those who would strangle free speech,’ declared the editorialist, the day her suspension was announced. ‘La Trobe University should hold her and others to account.’
Behold the authentic voice of right-wing political correctness, increasingly the common sense of Australian conservatives. Free speech belongs only to those we like – and everyone else should be crushed like bugs.
While Hollywood may come up short when it comes to roles for transgender women, there's no shortage of transgender brilliance on Twitter.
On Tuesday, after news broke that Matt Bomer took the role of a transgender woman in the upcoming film Anything, Jen Richards, transgender actress and creator of the Emmy-nominated online series Her Story, sounded off on Bomer's casting, the state of Hollywood for transgender talent and how these decisions can lead to violence against trans women.
The forums there are just full of awesome people. There is a series of threads for questions about LGBT+ issues. Can't remember which subforum its in.
Should I start another Best of Social Justice thread or necro this one?
https://mic.com/articles/153149/actress-jen-richards-just-nailed-the-problem-with-casting-cisgender-actors-in-trans-roles?utm_source=policymicTBLR&utm_medium=main&utm_campaign=social#.KysNEzxSmQuoteWhile Hollywood may come up short when it comes to roles for transgender women, there's no shortage of transgender brilliance on Twitter.
On Tuesday, after news broke that Matt Bomer took the role of a transgender woman in the upcoming film Anything, Jen Richards, transgender actress and creator of the Emmy-nominated online series Her Story, sounded off on Bomer's casting, the state of Hollywood for transgender talent and how these decisions can lead to violence against trans women.
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My pal Reza Mofakham helps manage a hardware store and caught the barbecue bug a couple of years ago. He's learned to master the Cadillac of charcoal cookers, the Big Green Egg, which is kind of a cross between a covered grill and a tandoor oven--which means you can plank salmon and cook pizza in it. This dish scored well in the open category at the Canadian National Barbecue Championships in 2005, and I think it'll score well with you, too. It's a tasty way to deal with leftover planked salmon. If you don't feel like making your own pizza dough, you can buy it frozen at most supermarkets.