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Title: Ignore Feature
Post by: ironbite on January 04, 2012, 06:36:31 pm
Can we have one implemented?

Ironbite-few people I'd love to never see post
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Art Vandelay on January 04, 2012, 06:44:14 pm
There already is.

Profile > Account Settings > Modify Profile > Buddies/Ignore list.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: ironbite on January 04, 2012, 06:45:44 pm
Well I feel like a right fool
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Keiro Dreamwalker on January 04, 2012, 06:51:48 pm
... Lol. It kinda comes standard with forums these days. >_>;
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: ironbite on January 04, 2012, 07:06:24 pm
Not on Proboards.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Keiro Dreamwalker on January 04, 2012, 07:10:42 pm
... Except for Proboards. Fucking Proboards.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Bezron on January 05, 2012, 12:47:50 pm
Question on Ignore:

How does this work in relation to the rule stating that you must reply to direct inquiries in a thread?  If (for realistic example), Ironbite has me on ignore and I ask him a direct question, he will never see it and therefore be unable to answer.  Thus breaking a long-standing forum rule.

I would think it may be better to kill the ignore feature and people can just go back to ignoring posts they don't like (or sniping at them)
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Cloud3514 on January 05, 2012, 02:31:51 pm
Can we have one implemented?

Ironbite-few people I'd love to never see post

Aww, what did I do?
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Keiro Dreamwalker on January 05, 2012, 04:55:21 pm
Question on Ignore:

How does this work in relation to the rule stating that you must reply to direct inquiries in a thread?  If (for realistic example), Ironbite has me on ignore and I ask him a direct question, he will never see it and therefore be unable to answer.  Thus breaking a long-standing forum rule.

I would think it may be better to kill the ignore feature and people can just go back to ignoring posts they don't like (or sniping at them)

I'm not going to kill the ignore feature. If they ignored you, and you ask them a question while knowing they've ignored you, that's not their problem.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: SimSim on January 05, 2012, 04:59:25 pm
Are you notified when someone puts you on ignore? I've never used the feature before, so I have no idea.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Bezron on January 05, 2012, 05:32:44 pm
Question on Ignore:

How does this work in relation to the rule stating that you must reply to direct inquiries in a thread?  If (for realistic example), Ironbite has me on ignore and I ask him a direct question, he will never see it and therefore be unable to answer.  Thus breaking a long-standing forum rule.

I would think it may be better to kill the ignore feature and people can just go back to ignoring posts they don't like (or sniping at them)

I'm not going to kill the ignore feature. If they ignored you, and you ask them a question while knowing they've ignored you, that's not their problem.

How would you know that they ignored you?  I mean other than the "welcome to ignore" post that they may or may not make?
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Keiro Dreamwalker on January 05, 2012, 05:34:47 pm
Uh. Not sure. Either way, you could always request someone else repeat the question for you. Thusly, getting the question answered anyway.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Bezron on January 05, 2012, 05:45:54 pm
Uh. Not sure. Either way, you could always request someone else repeat the question for you. Thusly, getting the question answered anyway.

I think you may be missing the issue (or perhaps you are just dead set on having the ignore feature, or perhaps I am reading the situation wrong, and I apologize if that is the case).

The feature itself may end up causing conflicts with one of the long-standing forum rules:

• Address questions given to you, either by answering them or saying why you won't (such as "I don't know," "I'm not comfortable answering that," "it's personal and I don't feel it's your business," etc.).

In the past, people such as Nautical and Skyfire (among others) would attempt to simply ignore questions that they didn't want to answer.  This was especially significant during the Nautical mega-thread, as there were people on this forum (myself included) who were attempting to pin him down on his insanity.  It is my feeling that this type of feature is really going to end up hurting some of our more interesting discussions, since a user can simply ignore questions and say "oh, sorry, had them on ignore".  Alternatively, we end up with multiple people quoting every question, just in case.  Especially considering that it is currently unknown if someone gets a notice when placed on ignore (in my experience on other boards, there is no notification).

I think that this is the kind of thing that should be presented to the board as a whole for discussion before a final decision is made.  Unless, you know, we aren't that kind of board any longer and decisions are going to be made unilaterally.  Which is fine, but also good to know.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Keiro Dreamwalker on January 05, 2012, 05:50:30 pm
Uh. Not sure. Either way, you could always request someone else repeat the question for you. Thusly, getting the question answered anyway.

I think you may be missing the issue (or perhaps you are just dead set on having the ignore feature, or perhaps I am reading the situation wrong, and I apologize if that is the case).

The feature itself may end up causing conflicts with one of the long-standing forum rules:

• Address questions given to you, either by answering them or saying why you won't (such as "I don't know," "I'm not comfortable answering that," "it's personal and I don't feel it's your business," etc.).

In the past, people such as Nautical and Skyfire (among others) would attempt to simply ignore questions that they didn't want to answer.  This was especially significant during the Nautical mega-thread, as there were people on this forum (myself included) who were attempting to pin him down on his insanity.  It is my feeling that this type of feature is really going to end up hurting some of our more interesting discussions, since a user can simply ignore questions and say "oh, sorry, had them on ignore".  Alternatively, we end up with multiple people quoting every question, just in case.  Especially considering that it is currently unknown if someone gets a notice when placed on ignore (in my experience on other boards, there is no notification).

I think that this is the kind of thing that should be presented to the board as a whole for discussion before a final decision is made.  Unless, you know, we aren't that kind of board any longer and decisions are going to be made unilaterally.  Which is fine, but also good to know.

Nope, just that I don't care.

The thing is, I don't care because it solves SO MANY drama fests if people actually use the ignore feature. Yeah, I'm aware of that rule.

Feel free to discuss... but my official stance is that I really don't care for the reason I stated. I'd just like for people to use the ignore feature MORE if the people they talk with consistently gets in a fight with them on here. It kills drama dead. So to speak.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Bezron on January 05, 2012, 05:57:01 pm
Good to know, thanks
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Napoleon the Clown on January 05, 2012, 05:57:55 pm
Perk: I can put people on each other's ignore lists if issues arise. "I'm gonna ignore you from now on!" Don't ignore? Well, I can change that.


AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!


I will not do this. Much easier to cuff people for being little twats.

As to the issues presented with people being put on ignore and asking a question... Difficult to say. However, there's still the case of a mod stepping in and saying something about the unanswered question. At that point the person being asked is perfectly able to state the asker was on ignore.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Keiro Dreamwalker on January 05, 2012, 05:59:20 pm
Other mods and admins naturally can weigh in. :x

Edit: Lol, Nappy.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Bezron on January 05, 2012, 06:02:12 pm
Perk: I can put people on each other's ignore lists if issues arise. "I'm gonna ignore you from now on!" Don't ignore? Well, I can change that.


AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!


I will not do this. Much easier to cuff people for being little twats.

As to the issues presented with people being put on ignore and asking a question... Difficult to say. However, there's still the case of a mod stepping in and saying something about the unanswered question. At that point the person being asked is perfectly able to state the asker was on ignore.

EDIT by Keiro:

Other mods and admins naturally can weigh in. :x

Edit: Lol, Nappy.

Actually unrelated:  Is the current admin/mod list currently available?  Beyond the tag under the user name, I mean.  That tag is not especially useful when we get into a situation like the last board where Nap, Oriet, and Sandman were the only active mods, in addition to Distind being the Admin.  Also, what is the process for someone being tagged as a mod or admin (no, I do not want to be one, too much work...honestly just curious)


ETA: sorry for the double post.  A post merge feature for the masses would be nice if it is feasible.  Also, forgot Oriet in the original list.  Sorry for that.

Hey Nap, since you mention being able to manipulate other people's ignore lists...can you see who is on each person's list?  So, for example, Skyfire ignores a question, gets called on it and claims ignore list, can you confirm it?  I'm not talking about every case, but the chronic ones (i.e. Skyfire trying to ignore questions that make him uncomfortable or where he can't cite himself).


Also, do you really want to be called upon every time someone thinks they may be on ignore?
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Keiro Dreamwalker on January 05, 2012, 06:07:58 pm
Perk: I can put people on each other's ignore lists if issues arise. "I'm gonna ignore you from now on!" Don't ignore? Well, I can change that.


AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!


I will not do this. Much easier to cuff people for being little twats.

As to the issues presented with people being put on ignore and asking a question... Difficult to say. However, there's still the case of a mod stepping in and saying something about the unanswered question. At that point the person being asked is perfectly able to state the asker was on ignore.

Hey Nap, since you mention being able to manipulate other people's ignore lists...can you see who is on each person's list?  So, for example, Skyfire ignores a question, gets called on it and claims ignore list, can you confirm it?  I'm not talking about every case, but the chronic ones (i.e. Skyfire trying to ignore questions that make him uncomfortable or where he can't cite himself).


Also, do you really want to be called upon every time someone thinks they may be on ignore?

Anyone with admin access can confirm.

Not sure about moderators, though. I'll ask Shane since she's active atm.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Napoleon the Clown on January 05, 2012, 06:18:01 pm
Perk: I can put people on each other's ignore lists if issues arise. "I'm gonna ignore you from now on!" Don't ignore? Well, I can change that.


AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!


I will not do this. Much easier to cuff people for being little twats.

As to the issues presented with people being put on ignore and asking a question... Difficult to say. However, there's still the case of a mod stepping in and saying something about the unanswered question. At that point the person being asked is perfectly able to state the asker was on ignore.

Hey Nap, since you mention being able to manipulate other people's ignore lists...can you see who is on each person's list?  So, for example, Skyfire ignores a question, gets called on it and claims ignore list, can you confirm it?  I'm not talking about every case, but the chronic ones (i.e. Skyfire trying to ignore questions that make him uncomfortable or where he can't cite himself).


Also, do you really want to be called upon every time someone thinks they may be on ignore?
It'd only really come up when the question goes unanswered. Then if the person develops a history of "having people on ignore" someone can check to be sure. If they do NOT have the person on ignore there will be hell to pay.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 06, 2012, 01:59:45 am
Perk: I can put people on each other's ignore lists if issues arise. "I'm gonna ignore you from now on!" Don't ignore? Well, I can change that.


AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!


I will not do this. Much easier to cuff people for being little twats.

As to the issues presented with people being put on ignore and asking a question... Difficult to say. However, there's still the case of a mod stepping in and saying something about the unanswered question. At that point the person being asked is perfectly able to state the asker was on ignore.

Hey Nap, since you mention being able to manipulate other people's ignore lists...can you see who is on each person's list?  So, for example, Skyfire ignores a question, gets called on it and claims ignore list, can you confirm it?  I'm not talking about every case, but the chronic ones (i.e. Skyfire trying to ignore questions that make him uncomfortable or where he can't cite himself).


Also, do you really want to be called upon every time someone thinks they may be on ignore?

Anyone with admin access can confirm.

Not sure about moderators, though. I'll ask Shane since she's active atm.

That is about the only thing I can't do as mod.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Sigmaleph on January 06, 2012, 03:23:21 pm
Other mods and admins naturally can weigh in. :x

Edit: Lol, Nappy.

Actually unrelated:  Is the current admin/mod list currently available?  Beyond the tag under the user name, I mean.  That tag is not especially useful when we get into a situation like the last board where Nap, Oriet, and Sandman were the only active mods, in addition to Distind being the Admin.  Also, what is the process for someone being tagged as a mod or admin (no, I do not want to be one, too much work...honestly just curious)


ETA: sorry for the double post.  A post merge feature for the masses would be nice if it is feasible.  Also, forgot Oriet in the original list.  Sorry for that.
You can go to the member list (http://forums.fstdt.net/mlist/) and sort it by position. Right now, the list is Keiro, Napoleon and Distind as admins and Shane, Oriet and Sandman as mods
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: lighthorseman on January 07, 2012, 09:39:43 pm
How did I miss the natical thing?
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Bezron on January 07, 2012, 09:51:09 pm
Perhaps you weren't around yet?  It happened over the course of a week or so, just a massive thread on casting out demons and other religious insanity (initially typed that as inanity, so that's telling).
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Yla on January 10, 2012, 03:23:16 pm
How does the Ignore feature work anyway? Is the offending post by the offending other user just masked, or is it indistinguishable from it never having been posted?

(I'd prefer masked. If not, I'd just get confused by people responding to.. nothing.)
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: ironbite on January 10, 2012, 07:01:34 pm
Works like this.

You put someone on your iggy list, their posts are masked to you.  You can choose to read their posts or not, it's now up to you.

Ironbite-I use it all the time on the Allspark to ignore Skyfire.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Art Vandelay on January 11, 2012, 08:34:47 am
Other mods and admins naturally can weigh in. :x

Edit: Lol, Nappy.

Actually unrelated:  Is the current admin/mod list currently available?  Beyond the tag under the user name, I mean.  That tag is not especially useful when we get into a situation like the last board where Nap, Oriet, and Sandman were the only active mods, in addition to Distind being the Admin.  Also, what is the process for someone being tagged as a mod or admin (no, I do not want to be one, too much work...honestly just curious)


ETA: sorry for the double post.  A post merge feature for the masses would be nice if it is feasible.  Also, forgot Oriet in the original list.  Sorry for that.
You can go to the member list (http://forums.fstdt.net/mlist/) and sort it by position. Right now, the list is Keiro, Napoleon and Distind as admins and Shane, Oriet and Sandman as mods

Is it just me, or are there about half the mods we had on the old boards?
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Bezron on January 11, 2012, 09:39:55 am
A fair portion of the mods on the old board were no longer really around.
Title: Re: Ignore Feature
Post by: Shane for Wax on January 11, 2012, 11:24:37 am
What Bezron said. I am sure when Blue and Dante's Virgil come back and express their desire for their post back they'll get it. But, for a forum like this it is usually pretty well regulated on its own so doesn't need a massive team. Just a team that can check in, check out throughout the day so we've got as near a constant cover as we can get.