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Title: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 04, 2018, 10:24:08 pm
For the past few weeks twitter and youtube have been blowing up with the exodus of Channel Awesome producers like Todd in the Shadows and Linkara (two of their most popular members) this is the 2nd or 3rd time in the past decade.

Currently the guy who does those cool "Down the Rabbit Hole" videos is streaming it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yIjg17A6Oo

(edit: stream is up and archived, it's 5 hours long)

He's reading the google doc Obscurus Lupa, Marzgirl, and Lindsay Ellis put together of various complaints. You can read the entire 69 (almost 70) pages worth of shit that Michaud and the Walker brothers have pulled at the link below
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WZFkR__B3Mk9EYQglvislMUx9HWvWhOaBP820UBa4dA/preview#heading=h.7dq590sf6gmz

There's also a fan doc & the contributors doc should link to it
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 04, 2018, 11:38:53 pm
As best as I can tell, here are the producers that have left Channel Awesome in the wake of #ChangeTheChannel, in no particular order (I was going to do popularity, but then I looked at their YouTube numbers and saw that it's basically impossible for me to determine that order):

Linkara
Todd in the Shadows
Mike J
Film Brain
The Rap Critic
Diamanda Hagan
The Omega
SF Debris
Suede

And considering that Linkara, Todd in the Shadows and The Rap Critic were a few of their biggest names by a long shot, this should have lit a fire under Channel Awesome's ass. And what's the official response? "We regret that you feel that way." Such a fucking bullshit non-apology.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: niam2023 on April 05, 2018, 12:13:05 am
Meanwhile, in the dark hellscape of a Fourth World...

Darkseid, or as we know him, Mike Michaud, raged at the defections and escapes from his world. "Was it you, Kalibak, who could not impede their escape?"

The cat-like imbecile shook his head, trembling in fear.

Granny Goodness assuaged her dark lord's rage, "Do not worry, sire, I have a foolproof plan to drag those smelly carcasses back to Channel Awepokolips."
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Askold on April 05, 2018, 01:21:33 am
I used to like watching their videos but then got bored for some reason.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 05, 2018, 01:44:33 am
Doug's overall quality seemed to have declined over time. He tried to do stuff other than Nostalgia Critic for a while but people liked NC better than his other stuff and after the revival there isn't as much heart in it now.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: ironbite on April 05, 2018, 09:36:10 am
The problem with Demo Reel, his NC replacement, is that he expected everyone to follow his lead in retiring their personas.  He had no clue that people wanted to continue to make money with the shows they had established.

Ironbite-also Mike Ellis needs to be hunted down and beaten with wet noodles.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 05, 2018, 08:16:42 pm
I read all of it.  Including the fan doc.

MOTHER OF HELLFIRE, WHAT THE FLAMING FUCK?  Say what you will about the shitshow that was Spoony's exodus (he acted like a cunt, there is absolutely zero denying that), but the difference between him and Doug is that at least Spoony god damned learned from his fuck-up and fucking apologized to the wronged parties.  From what I've read, Doug Walker is a man who let his e-fame get to his head in a serious way, becoming either willfully ignorant of the many abuses of his "owner," at best, or out-and-out complicit in the systemic abuse of creator and fan alike, at worst.

This is sad, because I kinda like Nostalgia Critic.  Clipless shows (I'm sorry, but his skits blow and I almost always skip them) and whatever the fuck he was doing between the death and rebirth of NC aside, a lot of his stuff is pretty good and enjoyable.

Michaud needs to be thrown off the top floor of the Sears Tower after having a run-in with an especially angry Frank Castle, and the Walkers need to be beaten with a walker until they get their egos in check and their heads removed from the depths of their colons.  I see why people are jumping ship and, honestly, I don't fucking blame them.  Hell, I almost want to setup a viewbot for them just so they can get their numbers up stupidly high because, and I'm being completely 100% honest here, Mike Michaud and the Brothers Walker can eat a bag of salted gorilla scrotums.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 07, 2018, 04:18:28 pm
*ahem*

You may add the following producers to the list of people who have left the site in the wake of the controversy:

Nash Bozard
The Dom
Rantasmo (he left earlier, but I didn't notice until now)
Some Jerk with a Camera
The Last Angry Geek
Calluna
Rocked Reviews
MUD2MMO (who also left a while back and probably not in response to the controversy, but for other reasons)
Il Neige

And I'm pretty sure this isn't everyone. They're hemorrhaging contributors and, save Doug Walker, the only big names that haven't left are Angry Joe (who has almost three times more YouTube subs than Channel Awesome), Guru Larry (who also has way more subs than Channel Awesome itself) and Brad Jones (who has stated that he has no intention of leaving). Also, the planned 10th anniversary special has been canceled.

EDIT: Chris Stuckmann left last night. Very quietly.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Svata on April 07, 2018, 04:21:09 pm
Brad not leaving is somewhat disappointing. I like the guy, but if he decides to stay, I might have to not watch his stuff anymore.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 07, 2018, 04:28:23 pm
I'll still watch Brad on YouTube. Since their only payment is a hosting hub (which is so crap that I had stopped regularly visiting it years ago since it was just easier to follow people on their own sites and YouTube), it's not like watching anyone still on Channel Awesome will give money to Channel Awesome.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Svata on April 07, 2018, 05:13:13 pm
I get that. I really do. But if he's gonna tacitly support them by staying, I'm done with him. Anyone who remains involved with them after all of this is just off of my list of people to watch.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 07, 2018, 05:38:20 pm
And that is a fair stance. At the end of the day, we can only make our own decisions here.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: ironbite on April 07, 2018, 05:52:36 pm
It is amazing the amount of just plain bad decision making that's going on with this.

Ironbite-not the least of which is that "apology" they sent out.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 07, 2018, 06:10:01 pm
The last straw for a number of the latest wave was that the only communication they got since the Not So Awesome document was released was... the cancellation of the 10th anniversary special. So yeah, as everyone expected, looks like nothing is going to change. I wouldn't be surprised if all they have left by the time the dust settles are Brad Jones and the producers that barely pay attention to Channel Awesome since they're in a position where they're just as well off without.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Svata on April 07, 2018, 06:37:42 pm
Yeah, all they have left are Joe, Brad, and Doug. And, honestly, I've not really watched Doug's stuff since 2015
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 07, 2018, 07:23:51 pm
I haven't watched Brad, and only the older NC stuff.  I still like Joe, though, he's a cool guy.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 09, 2018, 03:19:40 am
And the document has been updated with the accounts of two more people formerly associated with the company. I'm not familiar with Leslie Rice, but his account is more of the same communication issues and mismanagement. On the other hand, Iron Liz's account is... certainly a thing. She may be a white nationalist piece of shit, but no one deserves to be treated that way. She went above and beyond what anyone could have reasonably expected... and she didn't even get compensated gas money or food.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 09, 2018, 03:45:17 am
She may be a white nationalist piece of shit, but no one deserves to be treated that way.

Wait what? When did this development happen?
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 09, 2018, 11:33:29 am
If you really want to know, just read her Twitter some time. She was big into GamerGate (I found this out when a picture of her with Milo Yiannoppolous showed up on my feed), apparently was, probably still is, a big Trump supporter, she even defended his trans troop ban with expected rhetoric, despite being trans herself, she regularly retweets white supremacists and other alt-right accounts, she even tried to gaslight another transwoman by saying that trans people on Tumblr are trying to indoctrinate children, citing a Bteitbart article that claimed that most "trans" kids grow up to not be trans (As if experimenting and exploring one's identity isn't a thing) and argued that she was citing "science" as if that wasn't a transphobic smoke screen.

In short, she's become Blair White light.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: ironbite on April 09, 2018, 03:31:49 pm
Wow....Linkara upgraded.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 09, 2018, 08:42:26 pm
I've met Viga. She's awesome. She was in the Machinae Supremacy moshpit at MAGFest.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 11, 2018, 11:02:32 pm
Huh.  Apparently, the fan doc is gone.  Even when I found it in my history, it don't have no content.  So, that's a thing.  Really wish it'd have at least been archived; even if some of it is unsubstantiated, I'd be willing to bet most of Rob's douchebaggery was legit.  The guy seems like a handicapped guppy who thinks he's a shark.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Lana Reverse on April 11, 2018, 11:21:44 pm
Huh.  Apparently, the fan doc is gone.  Even when I found it in my history, it don't have no content.  So, that's a thing.  Really wish it'd have at least been archived; even if some of it is unsubstantiated, I'd be willing to bet most of Rob's douchebaggery was legit.  The guy seems like a handicapped guppy who thinks he's a shark.

Given how big this controversy is, I'm sure there are archives and mirrors floating around. Don't get too discouraged.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 11, 2018, 11:34:56 pm
Huh.  Apparently, the fan doc is gone.  Even when I found it in my history, it don't have no content.  So, that's a thing.  Really wish it'd have at least been archived; even if some of it is unsubstantiated, I'd be willing to bet most of Rob's douchebaggery was legit.  The guy seems like a handicapped guppy who thinks he's a shark.

Apparently it was confirmed that a bunch of it was shit stirring fabrication. Last I saw it, someone had added an allegation that Brent "Brentalfloss" Black was the former producer who was grooming fans. I can't speak for who Brentalfloss is as a person (I've met him, but it was to ask for an interview that never happened (because I didn't know where his booth was at MAGFest and he asks interviewers to come to him so he can make sure he doesn't disappoint them), so the conversation was about three minutes long), but it's suspect to me because he was never involved in Channel Awesome in more than a few cameo appearances and one extended cameo in a Nostalgia Critic episode.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 12, 2018, 01:54:32 am
Holy shit, stop the presses.

Angry Joe has just left Channel Awesome. He was their most popular contributor (3 million subs to Channel Awesome's 1 million... and dropping) and the #2 draw to their website.

Taking bets on who's next. I'm thinking Guru Larry.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 12, 2018, 02:14:00 am
Holy shit, stop the presses.

Angry Joe has just left Channel Awesome. He was their most popular contributor (3 million subs to Channel Awesome's 1 million... and dropping) and the #2 draw to their website.

Taking bets on who's next. I'm thinking Guru Larry.

I've gotten word that Larry has been telling people he knows that "it's not worth leaving right now because the whole thing will be shutdown within a few weeks"

And with Joe gone now what Larry was saying is looking so much more likely.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: ironbite on April 12, 2018, 08:19:24 am
http://channelawesome.com/our-response/

Just read through that and tell me this site is gonna be around for very much longer.  Go on.  Tell me.

Ironbite-I got some ocean front property in Arizona to sell ya then.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Art Vandelay on April 12, 2018, 09:05:47 am
As long as the Nostalgia Critic brings in the views, I think Channel Awesome will manage to hang in there. Of course, there's no way they'll ever replace all of those producers who left, or fix their reputation, or really do anything do much of anything except eventually die of stagnation, but I don't think they're going anywhere in the immediate future.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 12, 2018, 04:51:47 pm
For the record: I lost my own bet. MasakoX was the next producer to leave.

My new bet is split between Sage and Guru Larry.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: ironbite on April 12, 2018, 05:12:14 pm
Oh hey, JewWario turned out to be a rapist scumbag.

Ironbite-JESUS FUCK WHY THE FUCK!?
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 12, 2018, 05:58:25 pm
Wait, what?  You got a source for that?
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: ironbite on April 12, 2018, 06:41:41 pm
So in the responce letter that CA put out, they included a chatlog in order to show the world they took action after allegations arose from a Jane Doe about a former producer "grooming" the young lady and sexually assaulting her.  The former producer, who wasn't named in the Not So Awesome google doc, turned out to be JewWario.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ChannelAwesome/comments/8bqrhw/whats_all_this_about_jewwario_now/

And it was further confirmed by both the Jane Doe in question and Holly, the former HR department for CA.

Ironbite-thanks Mike....next time run your shit by a lawyer first.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 12, 2018, 07:35:24 pm
I didn't believe it when I saw it last night since I had stumbled on a tweet by Metokur (aka Internet Aristocrat, a known shit stirrer and white nationalist whose audience came from GamerGate and is known to have made false allegations about Channel Awesome producers in the past), but Holly has coroborated the allegations. And now i want to drown myself in whiskey.

Also, I know he's not reading this, but apologies to LordKaT for assuming he was the one the account was referring to.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: davedan on April 12, 2018, 08:56:37 pm
I have literally no idea what this is about.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 12, 2018, 10:32:05 pm
Apparently there ere actually 2 Jane Does, the one on reddit clarified she tried to talk to Lupa (the one producing the document) and she didn't see her story so it didn't make it into the document. The one in the document was the one Justin had influenced to have sex with him using his popularity, and the 2nd one on reddit is the one he just straight up raped.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 12, 2018, 10:57:26 pm
That...puts certain things into perspective.  The fact its been verified by a third party is pretty fuckin' damning.  Makes ya wonder who else knew about this shit.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 12, 2018, 11:29:49 pm
For the record: Channel Awesome is down to two non-Doug producers: Brad Jones and Guru Larry. Gaming Wildlife announced their departure on Twitter and apparently the Blockbuster Buster has also submitted his resignation (not sure where. I assume Patreon because he doesn't appear to be on Twitter). Guru Larry is just taking the piss at this point. He clearly doesn't care about Channel Awesome and he's literally only sticking around to see if Brad leaves first.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Askold on April 13, 2018, 03:00:27 am
...What the hell is going on in there?
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 13, 2018, 09:03:39 am
That thing people thought was Everest turned out to be a little more than enormous mound of shit.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: ironbite on April 13, 2018, 09:54:08 am
According to Guru Larry...HE'S THE FINAL PRODUCER AS BRAD HAS LEFT!

Ironbite-drop down still shows him but it's pretty clear he's gone.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Art Vandelay on April 13, 2018, 10:04:23 am
Once Doug Walker is the only producer left, do you think they'll change the name back to That Guy with the Glasses?

Oh, and Fredrik "Down the Rabbit Hole" Knudsen is doing another livestream on the matter tomorrow, this time covering their official response as well as airing some allegedly brand new dirty laundry.

I have to say, I'm enjoying watching this train wreck far more than I've ever enjoyed any of their actual shows since 2010.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 13, 2018, 03:30:26 pm
So, both bafflingly and unsurprisingly, the GamerGaters and other alt-right types are conspiricizing that Dan Olsen knew about JewWario's actions and that he and Jacob Chapman (who did know and was, in fact, briefly targeted) didn't tell the authorities to try to somehow score a victory against GamerGate.

Leaving the fantasy land these assholes live in, we know that Olsen didn't know at the time of JewWario's suicide and, even when he pieced things together, he didn't know the extent of it until a couple weeks before the Not So Awesome document dropped. It's also likely that Chapman didn't know the extent of things, but even if he did, they were both asked to stay quiet by the victims. The only, I repeat, ONLY evidence that Olsen knew was a Reddit post that, while tragically confirmed to be truthful by Holly, said that the person in question tried to get her story onto the document, but was "ignored." Marzgurl and Holly both claim that they were not approached, while it's probable that Lupa simply missed it in all of the chaos of the last month. The Reddit post does not accuse anyone of knowing while JewWario was still a threat.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 13, 2018, 09:16:54 pm
I saw Olson's post on SA and have no idea why he would bring up GamerGate in it, it feels very off-topic. I get his argument about not wanting the victims to be hurt by too much online scrutiny, but a counterpoint to that is that hiding things that have already blown up to this point just makes people pay more attention + drags more people into it, as well as the way he said Justin "functionally settled it himself" sounding incredibly callous.

Even though Justin turned out to have been absolutely terrible, it's also very clear he had deep issues and quite possibly felt guilt and remorse (speculation i know, but it's based on the fact he killed himself so I feel like its likely).

It feels like he's trying to dredge up and win some ancient internet argument without actually caring about how Justin's family, friends, and especially his widow feel right now. This Dan guy just rubs me the wrong way.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 14, 2018, 02:53:19 am
As I said, he mentioned GamerGate in his statement because GamerGate and their ilk that started the rumor that he covered it up in the first place. They still hold a grudge against him for exposing 8chan's child pornography. Incidentally, it was GamerGaters that got him fired from Channel Awesome.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Askold on April 14, 2018, 10:50:14 am
As I said, he mentioned GamerGate in his statement because GamerGate and their ilk that started the rumor that he covered it up in the first place. They still hold a grudge against him for exposing 8chan's child pornography. Incidentally, it was GamerGaters that got him fired from Channel Awesome.

...What, what in the what now?

a) How the heck do the GG manage to get into every single scandal on the net?

b) How many different aspects are there in this CA thingy? I'm pretty sure that the only thing missing by now is that they had something to do with the new Star wars films...
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 14, 2018, 11:02:11 am
If memory serves, someone on CA (back when it did blogs and whatnot in addition to videos) more or less did an expose on the whole b8chan thing, bringing to light that it had been used to distribute child pornography.  GG, if I'm remembering correctly, had a fair presence on b8chan and saw it as an attack on them and essentially got the dude fired from CA; because if there's one thing GG hates more than women who talk, its people trying to take their precious spank material.  They sent threats to the dude and went over his head to Michaud and the latter, being a scummy fucking weasel, decided to fire the guy who exposed what amounted to a child porn ring instead of telling the wannabe kiddie fiddlers to go fuck themselves.  Ya know, like any self-respecting human being would've done.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 14, 2018, 11:13:11 am
Yup, it was Dan Olsen that did the expose about 8chan being infested with child pornography. And it had them going to Michaud and demanding him be fired. It's the event that lead directly to the resignations of Lindsay Ellis (because Michaud thought it was a great idea to call her to bitch about him as if she was his handler) and Kyle Kallgren.

And, because GamerGate is little more than petty children, they still hold a grudge. As for how they seem to insert themselves into every Internet scandal, well, that's because they've got nothing better to do.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Lana Reverse on April 14, 2018, 11:28:57 am
Holy shit, really?! That's disgusting!
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 14, 2018, 11:29:53 am
Fuck it, as far as I'm concerned, GG is a criminal organization.  They have aided and abetted those who consume (at the very least, maybe even create) child pornography; they are every bit as culpable as the sick fucks that get their rocks off to 8 year-olds.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Lana Reverse on April 14, 2018, 11:39:42 am
Fuck it, as far as I'm concerned, GG is a criminal organization.  They have aided and abetted those who consume (at the very least, maybe even create) child pornography; they are every bit as culpable as the sick fucks that get their rocks off to 8 year-olds.

Okay, now I'm interested in that trainwreck. If that's true, then they've got a permanent place on my shitlist. I don't have any children yet, but I do have nieces and nephews, and the thought of them being exploited in such a way...
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: ironbite on April 14, 2018, 03:22:13 pm
*snickers*
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 14, 2018, 10:33:26 pm
Wait so they were already going after Olson for the JewWario thing before his post went up? I thought that happened after it, because that's the impression I got from seeing a twitter thread by mombot (a gamergate person) that was reposted on a different SA thread later.

Like the order I saw it happening in was: Dan posts on SA --> GamerGators on twitter post about his SA post --> the twitter thread makes its way back to SA. I've seen plenty of gators keep dumb grudges (ex: the Anita Sarkeesian obsession), but honestly Dan strikes me as being of a similarly obsessive stock. He may have been fired because of their compaints, but the onus on actually going through with that is Michaud.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 14, 2018, 11:37:48 pm
As far as I know, if Mombot's thread was after Dan's SA post, then it's only because GamerGaters were throwing accusations at him before the thread was created. Keep in mind that while Dan may be the biggest target here, he's not the only one. Jacob Chapman has been sea lioned about it, as have Todd in the Shadows and Lindsay Ellis apparently. Even Tony Goldmark has had to tell these assholes off. I don't think Dan is as obsessed as you think he is, it's just that his connection to the whole GamerGate mess is more personal than most.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: niam2023 on April 16, 2018, 08:41:56 pm
And apparently Doug is listing himself on Facebook as having formerly worked at Channel Awesome.

Michaud is probably burning things right now in a rage.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 16, 2018, 10:26:43 pm
Doug's finally getting the memo?  Colour me legitimately surprised...I thought it'd have taken much longer.  Good on 'im, if its true.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: niam2023 on April 16, 2018, 10:52:54 pm
...wonder how long it'll be before Michaudseid just decides screw it and Omega Beams the whole Channel Awesome website in a fit of rage.

I call him that because of his..."unique" management style, namely, I WILL NOT BE QUESTIONED!!!
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 16, 2018, 11:24:01 pm
I would not be surprised if the Walkers have been in contact with a lawyer for the last couple weeks. As I've pointed out before in other places, Doug has more de facto power than Michaud. Even if Michaud is the majority rights owner of the Nostalgia Critic, Doug IS the Nostalgia Critic and, by extension, the Channel Awesome brand. If Doug is out, what's Michaud going to do? Recast the Nostalgia Critic? Well, I would fully expect him to TRY, but I highly doubt it would get him anywhere.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 16, 2018, 11:43:35 pm
People are debating on if Doug changed that or if there's some kind of glitch/bug with facebook. I'm not sure which is true but if Doug leaves the site before Brad or Larry do then that means CA is pretty much done and those other two will have to leave anyway at the end of the day.

edit: to be more specific apparently it automatically puts "worked at" if you forget to put dates in your work history.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: niam2023 on April 17, 2018, 01:21:21 am
Channel Awesome: Home of Guru Larry and...Guru Larry.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 17, 2018, 02:33:05 am
Soon to be renamed to just "Channel Larry"
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: niam2023 on April 17, 2018, 02:38:30 am
Something tells me Michaud will promptly do his best Darkseid impression and, in a fit of suicidal YOU WILL NEVER HAVE WHAT IS MICHAUDSEID'S!! blow up Channel Awesome the website rather than let it go to anyone else.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 17, 2018, 03:00:21 am
I was fully expecting them to just drop all of their contributors in an announcement about them "refocusing" their efforts in an attempt to make it look like they WANTED all of the contributors to leave. At this point, though, if the Walkers leaving is true, well, that's the end of that. A ten year legacy thrown away because Michaud couldn't be bothered to 1: fix the issues and 2: FUCKING APOLOGIZE.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 17, 2018, 08:59:27 am
Honestly, I think it was over once Joe left.  He was pretty much the biggest non-Walker name on the site, and had more subs than CA itself, after the exodus of Linkara and others prior, such as Spoony.  CA's been circlin' the drain for a while.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 17, 2018, 06:22:42 pm
Diamanda Hagan has released a statement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqcftY9NMAo&feature=youtu.be&a=

Man, they really ran around and hurt people.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Art Vandelay on April 17, 2018, 09:04:29 pm
Diamanda Hagan has released a statement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqcftY9NMAo&feature=youtu.be&a=

Man, they really ran around and hurt people.
Ah, I miss 2008.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Barbarella on April 25, 2018, 11:15:07 am
People are debating on if Doug changed that or if there's some kind of glitch/bug with facebook. I'm not sure which is true but if Doug leaves the site before Brad or Larry do then that means CA is pretty much done and those other two will have to leave anyway at the end of the day.

edit: to be more specific apparently it automatically puts "worked at" if you forget to put dates in your work history.

Good for The Walkers if they ditch this disaster.

Perhaps Doug can start over....Take the brand back! It's his baby!

I always liked Doug (he's often been described as actually being a very nice guy in real life and I hate to think that he's a complete douche) and hoped he wasn't a huge issue in this whole thing.

I haven't read all the reports yet but from what little I know, it seems that, while the Walkers aren't completely innocent, it's that Michaud guy who's the real "Big Bad", here.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Kanzenkankaku on April 25, 2018, 08:48:37 pm
Michaud is like the final boss of a fighting game. Always in the shadows with a lack of public presence, is a complete douchebag, lots of parallels but those are off the top of my head. Now that I've thought of this, I'd like a Doug v Mike street fighter 2 clone.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: RavynousHunter on April 25, 2018, 08:51:11 pm
Though, unlike Akuma or Android 21, Michaud would likely be a complete pushover.  Folks like that tend to have little in the way of physical presence or martial skill.  I have little doubt Doug would just knee him in the nuts and fuck off, lol.
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Barbarella on April 26, 2018, 02:17:30 am
The Walkers and Brad Jones need to just ditch Mike and start over! There's a market for them, they make fun shows. I'd be happy to see a comeback!
Title: Re: Channel Awesome Drama
Post by: Cloud3514 on April 26, 2018, 02:51:09 am
By all accounts, including from my friend Greg who has worked with him at several conventions, Doug is a decent guy. The problem, though, is that he's also someone who stubbornly refuses to see the bad in people and prefers to sweep that bad under a rug.

For the record, Greg has pulled the plug on posting the last thing he did with Channel Awesome because of the brand becoming pretty toxic. He also started taking down every video he had up featuring the Channel Awesome name.