Wonder how Putin's gonna try to spin this.
Well, I'm sure this will all end well.
I wish Putin would just be struck by lightning or swallowed up in a sinkhole. That would be "an act of God" I could get behind. Come to think of it, he should come visit Orlando! This is the lightning capital of the world, and we got sinkholes cropping up all the time.
Firstly, warm water ports don't matter anymore. Modern ships can sail through (or, more importantly, under) ice without too much trouble.Wait, what? I know icebreakers are a thing, but freighter submarines? Are those actually a thing outside of the military?
Firstly, warm water ports don't matter anymore. Modern ships can sail through (or, more importantly, under) ice without too much trouble. Secondly, Russia has a warm water port! They already own Sevastapol! Why would they invade Ukraine to gain control of a port that they already control?Joint control =/= ownership. Military interest, it contains one of their naval basses for the Black Sea Fleet. They are encroaching on NATO territory, they did this with Georgia before. Economic pressure would no longer be needed as well, see the 2010 Kharkiv Pact.
Firstly, warm water ports don't matter anymore. Modern ships can sail through (or, more importantly, under) ice without too much trouble. Secondly, Russia has a warm water port! They already own Sevastapol! Why would they invade Ukraine to gain control of a port that they already control?
Firstly, warm water ports don't matter anymore. Modern ships can sail through (or, more importantly, under) ice without too much trouble. Secondly, Russia has a warm water port! They already own Sevastapol! Why would they invade Ukraine to gain control of a port that they already control?
Sevastopol is part of Ukraine, even though part of Russia's fleet is stationed there. Russia's only port that's ice-free all year round is in the Kaliningrad Oblast.
Firstly, warm water ports don't matter anymore. Modern ships can sail through (or, more importantly, under) ice without too much trouble.Wait, what? I know icebreakers are a thing, but freighter submarines? Are those actually a thing outside of the military?
Firstly, warm water ports don't matter anymore. Modern ships can sail through (or, more importantly, under) ice without too much trouble. Secondly, Russia has a warm water port! They already own Sevastapol! Why would they invade Ukraine to gain control of a port that they already control?Joint control =/= ownership. Military interest, it contains one of their naval basses for the Black Sea Fleet. They are encroaching on NATO territory, they did this with Georgia before. Economic pressure would no longer be needed as well, see the 2010 Kharkiv Pact.
So you're saying that non-submarines can go "under" the ice? I'm pretty sure that's physically impossible (at least not if you ever intend to come back up).Firstly, warm water ports don't matter anymore. Modern ships can sail through (or, more importantly, under) ice without too much trouble.Wait, what? I know icebreakers are a thing, but freighter submarines? Are those actually a thing outside of the military?
No. You're not going to see civilian submarines used.
Firstly, warm water ports don't matter anymore. Modern ships can sail through (or, more importantly, under) ice without too much trouble. Secondly, Russia has a warm water port! They already own Sevastapol! Why would they invade Ukraine to gain control of a port that they already control?
So you're expecting to be accused of shelling a remote boarder outpost some time in the near future. ;)
EDIT: Russia is now having military excercises right next door to Finland... And their media has already had anti-Finnish propaganda...
Meanwhile, the West is trying the diplomatic approach to stopping Russia's antics, but questions how truly effective it will be towards Russia's aggression. Obama had another conversation with Russia. Angela Merkel is getting annoyed with Putin and question "if he is in touch with reality". The EU has to be unanimous in their decision on how to deal with Russia's show of force.LULZ, leverage against Merkel to place leverage against Putin, grab some popcorn kiddies this is going to be a ffffuuuuunnnn ride.
"Unlawful revolution." ...That's a tad redundant, don't ya think? If it isn't, I want to see the revolt that is lawful under the country's own laws. I think unlawfulness is kind of a big part of the whole revolt thing.
That message being: "I AM REAL MAN, I LIKE THE PUSSY, I SWEAR IT!"
I wonder if the Crimea does join the Federation, would Russia's influence on the rest of Eastern Europe be weaken since they'd be seen as aggressors? Or would they be scared of what Russia did with Ukraine and become closer with the Kremlin.
But that scenario would still mean that Russia gets to keep Sevastopol. Which is the presumably the main reason they got in this trainwreck.
Well, at this point, I just want Putin to fail.But that scenario would still mean that Russia gets to keep Sevastopol. Which is the presumably the main reason they got in this trainwreck.
I'm OK with that. Provided that it is the will of the Crimean people. And that Putin recognized the new government in Kiev.
Frankly, I hope he does fail. In fact, I want him out of power.
Putin: Stalin without the epic mustache or actual manly looks.Emphasis on "boy". Putin's considerably shorter than most people assume.
What? I think Stalin looks more like a man than Putin does...Putin looks like he could be in a late 90's boy band.
Aaaaah, Napoleon Complex. Now, it begins to make sense.
Maybe he's upset the Russian hockey team got the shit slipped out of them in the Olympics?
never 4get the happening (http://imgur.com/GKhjSto)
But seriously, I'm starting to get real uncomfortable about this shit. now Russia tested an ICBM? Putin can't go away quickly enough.
There are times I'm glad I don't have a TV, then there are times that I wish I had one. This is one of those times I wish I had one.
Stupid question to throw out there: From my understanding it seems that Russia wants to take over Ukraine? Is there even a remote possibility that this could throw us into World War III. Because if it does; it ain't going to be pretty.
In related news: "Falling from your chair due to laugher may cause pain, injuries."Ugh. Thanks, Obama.
Wonder if he's got his own Stargate in there like they do in Cheyenne?
Ironbite-he could gate to the Alpha Site!
Didn't they send one Stargate into a sun to cause a supernova, then bring the other one into Cheyenne mountain?
Didn't they send one Stargate into a sun to cause a supernova, then bring the other one into Cheyenne mountain?
So, what you guys are saying is that we teleport a nuke in front of Putin's face?
Every once and a while it makes for kind of a fun read actually.I didn't even know Russia Today operated in the US.
Yes, sadly it's sort of notorious as a pro-Putin, pro-conspiracy crank mouthpiece.
Aaaaah, Napoleon Complex. Now, it begins to make sense.
Amusingly, he's shorter than the actual Napoleon, who was approximately 5'9.
Aaaaah, Napoleon Complex. Now, it begins to make sense.
Amusingly, he's shorter than the actual Napoleon, who was approximately 5'9.
Though considered short during his lifetime by his friends.
Aaaaah, Napoleon Complex. Now, it begins to make sense.
Amusingly, he's shorter than the actual Napoleon, who was approximately 5'9.
Though considered short during his lifetime by his friends.
He was called the "le petit caporal" The little corporal as a nickname. The "little" in this case was not meant to be taken literally and was a form of endearment. Somehow this got lost in translation or purposefully misinterpreted as a propaganda tool.
Aaaaah, Napoleon Complex. Now, it begins to make sense.
Amusingly, he's shorter than the actual Napoleon, who was approximately 5'9.
Though considered short during his lifetime by his friends.
He was called the "le petit caporal" The little corporal as a nickname. The "little" in this case was not meant to be taken literally and was a form of endearment. Somehow this got lost in translation or purposefully misinterpreted as a propaganda tool.
From what I have read, his own generals also made fun of him. It was not just the British.Hey, if everyone else is doing it...
How long would it take for the Russian military to totally destroy the entire Ukrainian Army? Twenty minutes? A couple of hours at the most.
How long would it take for the Russian military to totally destroy the entire Ukrainian Army? Twenty minutes? A couple of hours at the most.
How long would it take for the Russian military to totally destroy the entire Ukrainian Army? Twenty minutes? A couple of hours at the most.
...Apart from some of those tiny countries like Belgium I don't think that any attacker could destroy their military in hours.
Unless you mean using nukes of course.
But with conventional weapons only the Ukrainian military could hold out for several days at least. They are calling up their reserves so it will be approximataly a million soldiers if they get all of them equipped. And if they manage that they can hold out much longer still. That is not something to take lightly as they have pretty decent equipment.
The goverment might surrender sooner but I think you are doing disservice to their military.
How long would it take for the Russian military to totally destroy the entire Ukrainian Army? Twenty minutes? A couple of hours at the most.
...Apart from some of those tiny countries like Belgium I don't think that any attacker could destroy their military in hours.
Watch Putin take the 'No, we're not joining Russia' vote result as the last straw and invading.They don't have that option in the first place. The choices are either join Russia, or let the local, pro-Russian government decide. Either way, they're joining Russia.
That is, of course, assuming that they eat the MREs and then sit around doing fuck all, which I highly doubt will be the case as military people generally like to keep their bodies moving to keep in, ya know, militarily-fit physical condition. A fat soldier is a dead soldier.
Hoo boy, Crimea wants to be with Russia (http://abcnews.go.com/International/crimea-voters-overwhelmingly-approve-leaving-ukraine-joining-russia/story?id=22930062)And Putin got 140% of the vote. Is anybody seriously fooled?
Kim Jong-Un is jealous. :PHoo boy, Crimea wants to be with Russia (http://abcnews.go.com/International/crimea-voters-overwhelmingly-approve-leaving-ukraine-joining-russia/story?id=22930062)And Putin got 140% of the vote. Is anybody seriously fooled?
On March 16 people in Crimea voted for independence from Ukraine and for joining Russian federation. I was asked how people in Ukraine feel about it.
People in Ukraine are pretty much pissed off. The closest comparison would be feeling of a parent whose adopted child moves to his real mother an alcoholic and psychopath. Child tells you he love his mother and hates you, he tells you there is no you blood in him, he send you to hell and slam the door.... This leaves you very sad and you can't believe you've brought up such an ungrateful brat... you see wasted years, wasted efforts and the fact that brat has no you blood in him is a bit of a comfort..
And tensions just went up another four notches:
Turkey Threatens To Close The Bosphorus (http://ukrainianpolicy.com/turkey-warns-russia-it-will-blockade-bosphorus/)
And tensions just went up another four notches:
Turkey Threatens To Close The Bosphorus (http://ukrainianpolicy.com/turkey-warns-russia-it-will-blockade-bosphorus/)
Of course, since the Tartars live in Crimea and are being basically s**t on by the Russians there. Also, since the Tartars are close in ethnic blood ties to Turkey, it's only natural that Turkey protects the ethnic citizens there. Right, Putin? I mean, that's logic reasoning, right?
as it should be, that's how men settle the score...Comment said by a user with the inverted flag of USA as his avatar.
Either way, I hope Putin is happy, because people on both sides are speculating about a resurgence of the Cold War. Putin seems to be spoiling for a Cold war fight, and may this time finally put Putin in his place and finally get him to shut up and sit his a** down.
Unless you are the Mongols.Either way, I hope Putin is happy, because people on both sides are speculating about a resurgence of the Cold War. Putin seems to be spoiling for a Cold war fight, and may this time finally put Putin in his place and finally get him to shut up and sit his a** down.
The problem with this is that it would probably involve invading Russia at some point, which is basically impossible.
Mongols cannot into youtube.Unless you are the Mongols.Either way, I hope Putin is happy, because people on both sides are speculating about a resurgence of the Cold War. Putin seems to be spoiling for a Cold war fight, and may this time finally put Putin in his place and finally get him to shut up and sit his a** down.
The problem with this is that it would probably involve invading Russia at some point, which is basically impossible.
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Okay, I'm getting sick of this. What am I doing wrong?Mongols cannot into youtube.Unless you are the Mongols.Either way, I hope Putin is happy, because people on both sides are speculating about a resurgence of the Cold War. Putin seems to be spoiling for a Cold war fight, and may this time finally put Putin in his place and finally get him to shut up and sit his a** down.
The problem with this is that it would probably involve invading Russia at some point, which is basically impossible.
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If push comes to shove and the US military gets involved in UkraineYeah, that's not going to happen. Like, ever.
If push comes to shove and the US military gets involved in UkraineYeah, that's not going to happen. Like, ever.
If push comes to shove and the US military gets involved in UkraineYeah, that's not going to happen. Like, ever.
True. That would put us rather uncomfortably close to pissing off someone who could do real damage, and as much as Russia has boasted that "we won't launch the first nuke," nobody wants to put that to the test.
If push comes to shove and the US military gets involved in UkraineYeah, that's not going to happen. Like, ever.
True. That would put us rather uncomfortably close to pissing off someone who could do real damage, and as much as Russia has boasted that "we won't launch the first nuke," nobody wants to put that to the test.
It's not even that. At the end of the day, it makes little difference to the US and their overall power whether or not Russia controls Crimea. It's not as though that area was ever part of the US sphere of influence in the first place. Anything more than presidential complaining and maybe some token aid to Ukraine, much less a full scale invasion, is just far more costly than it's worth.
The way I see it, Putin's acting like a Soviet dictator born twenty years too late.
The way I see it, Putin's acting like a Soviet dictator born twenty years too late.
The way I see it, Putin's acting like a Soviet dictator born twenty years too late.
I've always said that he's acting more like a Czar.
"Let's all go visit a potential warzone!"
"I'll bring my hardhat!"
"I'll bring the kevlar!"
"I'll bring the bomb-proof beer steins!"
As I've said before, I think he want's to rebuild the Russian empire. Ukrane was part of that, so Putin thinks it belongs to him.Then somebody should remind him that real life isn't a game of Crusader Kings II.
Shots fired asRussian troopscivilian volunteers storm a police station in Ukraine and take over.
http://euromaidanpr.com/2014/04/13/sos-russia-occupies-continental-ukraine/
At least this time the pro-Russian troops aren't using guns that could be traced back to Russia by sight alone. A standard AK with some civilian equipment would have worked as well but a pimped out AR-15 is a pretty nice touch.
EDIT: SHOTS FIRED!
http://euromaidanpr.com/2014/04/13/counter-terrorism-operation-announced-in-sloviansk/
Ukraine has started to take back the buildings and blocks under "separatist" control.
And here we have the "volunteer militia/rebels/Gru-Speznaz/whatever" in action. They seem... Professional."They're ex-military. Veterans of the August War (which, by the way, was completely justified)."
Based on the muzzlebreaks those guns are either AK-74 or some commercial AK-hundredsomething. Although I think the commercial models have synthetic furniture. There have also been pictures of these troops with Russian grenadelauchers attached to the guns and gear that is only given to Russian special forces, but those pictures might be from Crimea so at this point it is not that clear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQfK36byhJ4
And here we have the "volunteer militia/rebels/Gru-Speznaz/whatever" in action. They seem... Professional.
Based on the muzzlebreaks those guns are either AK-74 or some commercial AK-hundredsomething. Although I think the commercial models have synthetic furniture. There have also been pictures of these troops with Russian grenadelauchers attached to the guns and gear that is only given to Russian special forces, but those pictures might be from Crimea so at this point it is not that clear.
And here we have the "volunteer militia/rebels/Gru-Speznaz/whatever" in action. They seem... Professional.
Based on the muzzlebreaks those guns are either AK-74 or some commercial AK-hundredsomething. Although I think the commercial models have synthetic furniture. There have also been pictures of these troops with Russian grenadelauchers attached to the guns and gear that is only given to Russian special forces, but those pictures might be from Crimea so at this point it is not that clear.
The AK-74M has updated to synthetic furniture (black being the standard). You could tell if it was in the 100 series by the magazine: the 101 and 102 are in 5.56mm and have almost completely straight magazines, while the 103 and 104 are in 7.62x39mm and have the heavily curved AK-47 mags. From what I can see in the video, the mags have the 5.45mm curve and are thus AK-74s or copies from another country.
Also, shooting into the air is one of the stupidest things you can do. Bullets come back down, and unless you shoot at a literal 90 degree angle straight up they're likely to land with enough energy to kill someone. About a minute or two after they started shooting, a ton of 5.45x39mm bullets promptly landed God knows where.
Some 30 percent of Ukrainian military exports to Russia are unique and cannot currently
be substituted by Russian production. Russia’s heavy intercontinental ballistic missiles (the SS-18 ICBMs) are designed and produced by the
Yuzhmash combine in Dnepropetrovsk. SS-18s are regularly checked and maintained by Yuzhmash specialists. Two other strategic missile systems –
the SS-25 (RT-2PM Topol) and the SS-19 (UR-100 NUTTKh) – are designed and produced by Russian-based enterprises, but use guidance systems designed
and produced in Ukraine by the Kharkiv-based Khartron Scientific-Industrial Combine. The SS-18, SS-19 and SS-25 currently make up some 51 per cent of
Russia’s overall strategic nuclear-weapons inventory and over 80 per cent of that of Russia’s Strategic Rocket Forces specifically. In addition, some 20 per
cent of the natural uranium currently consumed by Russia’s nuclear industry, both for civilian and military purposes, comes from Zholti Vody in Ukraine.
The Russian air force is also critically dependent on the Ukrainian defence
industry. Ukrainian enterprises produce the R-27 (the AA-10 Alamo) medium-
range air-to-air missile (AAM), as well as the seekers for the R-73 (AA-11
Archer) short-range AAM – which, between them, represent the majority of
anti-air missiles operated by Russian fighters. Many of the auxiliary systems
– from hydraulics to drogue parachutes – for the Russian Su-27, Su-30 and
Su-35 fighters, as well as for Russia’s newest Su-34, are also produced in
Ukraine. In Zaporizhia, the Motor-Sich plant has a major role in Russian
aviation.
Motor-Sich produces jet engines for a variety of Russian transport
jet aircraft, including the An-124 Ruslan, the largest Russian transport
aircraft, as well as for some combat and training aircraft. The plant also
produces engines for all Russian combat and transport helicopters, as well
as auxiliary power units for all Russian helicopters and many types of combat
and transport aircraft.
Russia has made a vast effort to reduce its dependence upon Motor-Sich
engines, but the evidence is that it cannot produce enough engines to meet
its own demand – to say nothing of an ambitious rearmament programme,
which looks as if it will require at least 3,000 helicopter engines in a two-to-
three year period to equip Russian forces.
Russia’s dependence on Motor-Sich also has the effect of restricting its own
military and aviation exports. For the period 2013–16, Russia has secured
contracts for the delivery of over 260 new helicopters around the world, all
of which are equipped with either main or auxiliary engines supplied by the
Ukrainian company.
Well, I think they couldn't fire at the ground due to fear of richochets from the pavement, but I agree that shooting in the air is dangerous and they might have accidentally killed people. ...While firing warning shots because they didn't want to kill people...
GRU officers have been arrested in Ukraine:
Interesting article from a Finnish military magazine.
http://www.suomensotilas.fi/en/artikkelit/little-green-men-are-different-time
All in all, I have to bow to their expertise and find their assesment plausible.
Interesting article from a Finnish military magazine.
http://www.suomensotilas.fi/en/artikkelit/little-green-men-are-different-time
All in all, I have to bow to their expertise and find their assesment plausible.
As do I. That would definitely explain the terrifically bad tactics and unsafe behavior of the "troops" in that video. The other guys that you see randomly shooting into the air in modern times? Middle Eastern insurgents. When the supposed "Russian soldiers" are acting like a bunch of untrained civilians tossed assault rifles and told to go take over a city, it casts their identity into doubt.
Interesting article from a Finnish military magazine.
http://www.suomensotilas.fi/en/artikkelit/little-green-men-are-different-time
All in all, I have to bow to their expertise and find their assesment plausible.
As do I. That would definitely explain the terrifically bad tactics and unsafe behavior of the "troops" in that video. The other guys that you see randomly shooting into the air in modern times? Middle Eastern insurgents. When the supposed "Russian soldiers" are acting like a bunch of untrained civilians tossed assault rifles and told to go take over a city, it casts their identity into doubt.
Pretty sure Russia's still behind it; they're just using hired thugs instead of their own troops.
It's diplomacy. This way, they can technically say that they don't have troops In Ukraine.
It's diplomacy. This way, they can technically say that they don't have troops In Ukraine.
Its quite ingenious, actually. Let's say one of these "soldiers" gets attacked; maybe some Ukrainians who don't take too kindly to V-Poots' (Thanks for that one, Spuki!) antics get fed up with the "soldiers'" bullshit (because they're not proper soldiers and likely lack a sense of decorum) and decide to kick their arses. Well, now, Russia suddenly has an excuse for a full-out invasion, don't they? They conveniently "forget" to mention that the "soldiers" there are only shitty, likely underpaid, mercs, and they don't run the risk of wasting perfectly good, real soldiers.
Conspiracy-style shite, but honestly...I wouldn't put it past Stalin 2.0.
Putin is now decrying Ukraine's use of military force against the sepratists (http://www.businessinsider.com/r-putin-says-kievs-use-of-army-against-separatists-a-grave-crime-2014-17) since Putin is such a champion for human rights and dignity.Stop with the crocodile tears, Putin. You're not fooling anyone.
Um, yeah, Putin, whatever you say. Oh, now you notice that Ukraine's economy is in the toilet? Well, gee there, Putin. How ever a thoughtful and concerned president you are!
Ok, if my kids weren't sleeping at the moment I would be laughing very hard.
a)
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/25/vyacheslav-ponomarev-slavyansk-mayor-ukraine
Random guy takes over a city and claims to be the "people's mayor" on the basis that he was an officer in the Soviet army and now owns a factory...
I'm hoping both actions, additional sanctions, and arming Ukraine, come to fruition. The Russian economy is already in near complete shambles because of years and years of corruption. What we all saw and read about happening in re the Winter Olympics is just a small taste of the shit Putin and his bastard gangster buddies pull off all the time. There are third world nations with better government bond and financial securities ratings. Russia's rating is about to be downgraded to junk bond level, which is unprecedented for a developed first world nation. I honestly think Putin wants the free economy of Russia to fail so he can reinstate some form of dictated economy as existed under state communism, which was also totally corrupt, and allowed people in positions of great authority, like the head of the KGB, to live in decadent luxury and prance around stomping on and fucking over the people to their sociopathic heart's content.
Official Kremlin results: 97% for annexation, turnout 83 percent, and percent of Crimeans voting in favor 82%.
President’s Human Rights Council results: 50% for annexation, turnout 30%, percent of Crimeans voting in favor 15%.
...Hmm Reddit has people claiming that the article I linked is bullshit and that the writer just makes anti-Russian propaganda.
http://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/24to2g/putins_human_rights_council_accidentally_posts/
Reddit has a link to Russian page which is apparently the real post referenced in the article (wether or not it had been edited is unclear. Someone who knows Russian and wayback machine or something might be able to help with that.)
Looks like the issue goes beyond the Earth itself (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/may/13/russia-international-space-station-doubt-ukraine-sanctions)
Russia has been known to send in 'humanitarian aid' to Russian citizens in neighbouring countries...usually with tanks. Hence why Ukraine, and several other countries don't trust Russia in the slightest over this.Is that a war crime?
Russia has been known to send in 'humanitarian aid' to Russian citizens in neighbouring countries...usually with tanks. Hence why Ukraine, and several other countries don't trust Russia in the slightest over this.Is that a war crime?
I can't find it on this list but Russian news also photoshopped the Ukrainian president onto a French Gay Pride parade. I'm not saying that there wouldn't be people that hate anyone who is pro-gay but I think they are such a minority that this particular bit of propaganda would have been likely to fail even if it hadn't been a crude photoshop.I don't know how to cite this because it's something I heard on the radio some time ago, but I heard that Putin's anti-LGBT crusade and this thing in Ukraine are inextricably linked, as in Russian propaganda is, and has been from the beginning, blaming gays, westerners, and gay westerners for Ukraine's supposed moral degradation, which the Brave Russians are Seeking to Restore or some such nonsense. It was something along those lines, anyway. According to the interview I heard, that's one aspect of all this that the western media has been completely ignoring. I'll edit this if I can find a link to the interview.
A lot of the above is also about pandering to the Russian Orthodox Church, which has gained a lot of influence since the fall of the USSR. Putin doesn't want the Church as his enemy, so he makes "moral degradation" an issue to keep them from opposing him. Not that different from Bush and the religious right last decade, really.
A lot of the above is also about pandering to the Russian Orthodox Church, which has gained a lot of influence since the fall of the USSR. Putin doesn't want the Church as his enemy, so he makes "moral degradation" an issue to keep them from opposing him. Not that different from Bush and the religious right last decade, really.
Yeah, but we have yet to use "They're all homos anyway" as an excuse to stay in Afghanistan.
Nobody uses swords anymore.
Ironbite-which is a shame.
Yup. (http://www.badassoftheweek.com/index.cgi?id=905475926435)Nobody uses swords anymore.
Ironbite-which is a shame.
We put bayonets on our guns does that count. I think the British Army did actually bayonet charge some insurgents in Iraq.
My problem with the invasion was less why and more how.
I mean, we went in there with no plan for maintaining the region, not nearly enough troops to maintain order, no way to deal with looting besides violence, and most importantly: no understanding of the culture or people.
Not saying we should or shouldn't have invaded, just saying it was horribly executed.
I don't think most Iraqis were willing to fight against the initial invasion as they're so use to having their government overthrown through violent military force they've grown use to it, granted, I doubt this means they were happy at all about the invasion.My problem with the invasion was less why and more how.
I mean, we went in there with no plan for maintaining the region, not nearly enough troops to maintain order, no way to deal with looting besides violence, and most importantly: no understanding of the culture or people.
Not saying we should or shouldn't have invaded, just saying it was horribly executed.
That's what an invasion is all about, though. If you find yourself wondering how an invasion could take into account a population's needs, ask yourself if you would want the place you live to be invaded by a foreign power. Chances are you never would want that, and you would fight to repel the occupying force.
My problem with the invasion was less why and more how.
I mean, we went in there with no plan for maintaining the region, not nearly enough troops to maintain order, no way to deal with looting besides violence, and most importantly: no understanding of the culture or people.
Not saying we should or shouldn't have invaded, just saying it was horribly executed.
My problem with the invasion was less why and more how.
I mean, we went in there with no plan for maintaining the region, not nearly enough troops to maintain order, no way to deal with looting besides violence, and most importantly: no understanding of the culture or people.
Not saying we should or shouldn't have invaded, just saying it was horribly executed.
Also, too, corrupt as anything.
Obviously, the intention was as broken as the execution. Why should it be up to the West how to maintain the Middle East?
My problem with the invasion was less why and more how.
I mean, we went in there with no plan for maintaining the region, not nearly enough troops to maintain order, no way to deal with looting besides violence, and most importantly: no understanding of the culture or people.
Not saying we should or shouldn't have invaded, just saying it was horribly executed.
Also, too, corrupt as anything.
Obviously, the intention was as broken as the execution. Why should it be up to the West how to maintain the Middle East?
Putin has nothing to fear from the US putting boots on the ground to get him out of the Ukraine. He does have everything to fear from NATO deciding to put boots on the ground to get him out of the Ukraine.Hopefully the latter.
Ironbite-he's either gonna start WWIII or be shot in the head by someone with some sanity.
During an April 28 meeting with Ambassador, Our Ukraine (OU) insider Petro Poroshenko