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Re: Why bother translating?
« Reply #15 on: August 09, 2013, 04:48:47 pm »
I'll just leave this here: at least Bella Cullen didn't commit genocide.
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Re: Why bother translating?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2013, 10:12:43 am »
It has always struck me as odd that people who claim to believe that the Bible is the word of an all powerful god and the key to not being tortured for all eternity never actually read it. They'll read small snippets of it at the behest of their priest or bible study group, but they'll never actually read the whole thing cover to cover. I've never understood why that is, personally.

I've actually talked to people who said that reading the Bible cover-to-cover in order was actually the WRONG WAY to do it, particularly if you didn't have a priest or pastor to "assist" in your interpretation. Which makes me wonder why an all-powerful god would want to be associated with a book that was apparently published with its parts in the wrong order and is too complicated for the majority of his creations to understand.

Probably that "God speaks through others" bullshit.  Excuses like that make it so obvious that their religion is a giant scam. 

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Re: Why bother translating?
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2013, 12:42:05 pm »
This is why I'm an eclectic NeoPagan. As far a religion is concerned, it makes most sense. It supports equality, LGBTs, sex & pleasure, science, nature, etc. and it doesn't required big structured organizations.

That said, as far as the scientific nature of reality, what the Eastern faiths teach is very plausible. If you strip away the moralistic & cultural stuff you actually have a lot a good stuff in line with science, medicine, quantum physics, philosophy, etc.

Come to think of it, much of today's NeoPaganism seems to have absorbed Eastern stuff.

In my ideal world, everyone would be either NeoPagan, Deist, Atheist, Agnostic, Non-Religious Spirituality, Pantheist (in other words, no organized religion or dogmas).

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Re: Why bother translating?
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2013, 12:55:11 pm »
When it comes down to it, Christianity is a depressing faith.  We're all sinners destined for hell unless we call out to Jesus.  Where's the hope in that? 

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Re: Why bother translating?
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2013, 06:29:20 pm »
When it comes down to it, Christianity is a depressing faith.  We're all sinners destined for hell unless we call out to Jesus.  Where's the hope in that?
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Re: Why bother translating?
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2013, 02:51:15 am »
It has always struck me as odd that people who claim to believe that the Bible is the word of an all powerful god and the key to not being tortured for all eternity never actually read it. They'll read small snippets of it at the behest of their priest or bible study group, but they'll never actually read the whole thing cover to cover. I've never understood why that is, personally.
They're lazy, Art. Really, people won't read anything more complex than a picture book these days.
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Re: Why bother translating?
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2013, 05:55:17 am »
When it comes down to it, Christianity is a depressing faith.  We're all sinners destined for hell unless we call out to Jesus.  Where's the hope in that?

Eternal damnation is one of my least favorite things about Christianity. I much prefer the Jewish afterlife:
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3. Suffer in proportion to your sins.
4. Go to Heaven.
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Re: Why bother translating?
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2013, 07:23:21 am »
When it comes down to it, Christianity is a depressing faith.  We're all sinners destined for hell unless we call out to Jesus.  Where's the hope in that?

Eternal damnation is one of my least favorite things about Christianity. I much prefer the Jewish afterlife:
1. Die.
2. Go to Gehenna.
3. Suffer in proportion to your sins.
4. Go to Heaven.

I think that used to be part of the christian belief as well. At some point it turned from purgatory to eternal damnation. Well at least in some versions of christianity, I've heard a lutheran priest talk about purgatory in the original way it was. He also believed that all "unbelievers and heretics" will also reach heaven in time.
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Re: Why bother translating?
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2013, 07:28:57 am »
It has always struck me as odd that people who claim to believe that the Bible is the word of an all powerful god and the key to not being tortured for all eternity never actually read it. They'll read small snippets of it at the behest of their priest or bible study group, but they'll never actually read the whole thing cover to cover. I've never understood why that is, personally.
They're lazy, Art. Really, people won't read anything more complex than a picture book these days.
On the contrary. The success of Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey proves that even the most brain dead morons are capable of reading large books.

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Re: Why bother translating?
« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2013, 08:54:42 am »
When it comes down to it, Christianity is a depressing faith.  We're all sinners destined for hell unless we call out to Jesus.  Where's the hope in that?

Eternal damnation is one of my least favorite things about Christianity. I much prefer the Jewish afterlife:
1. Die.
2. Go to Gehenna.
3. Suffer in proportion to your sins.
4. Go to Heaven.

Sounds kinda like the afterlife I thought up for my game.  Basically, when you die, you either go to one of three places: Heaven (for the REALLY good), Hell (for the REALLY evil), or Elysium (for everyone else).  Most regular folks go to Elysium; its a nice place to be, you're never hungry, don't need to sleep or drink, there's no pain, its like a nicer version of the game world itself.  Every afterlife has a maximum stay of 1,000 years, and after that, your spirit's turned back into the primordial life energy from whence it came, and is for lack of a better term, recycled into other living beings.

Homicidal maniacs like Hitler or Stalin would go to Hell for a millennium, but really good folks like Bill Gates would be in Heaven for a good, long time, too.  Also introduces a nice balance between being born an entirely new being, and the concept of reincarnation.  Once you're recycled, all your memories, abilities, and personality are effectively erased, but your most basic essence remains.
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Re: Why bother translating?
« Reply #25 on: August 11, 2013, 11:28:27 am »
I prefer universal reconciliation as well. It makes most sense.

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Re: Why bother translating?
« Reply #26 on: August 11, 2013, 01:46:49 pm »
It has always struck me as odd that people who claim to believe that the Bible is the word of an all powerful god and the key to not being tortured for all eternity never actually read it. They'll read small snippets of it at the behest of their priest or bible study group, but they'll never actually read the whole thing cover to cover. I've never understood why that is, personally.
They're lazy, Art. Really, people won't read anything more complex than a picture book these days.
On the contrary. The success of Twilight and Fifty Shades of Grey proves that even the most brain dead morons are capable of reading large books.
True, but those are easier to read.
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