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Title: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 22, 2013, 11:45:29 am
Atheists and so-called "non-religious" people residing in christian countries are always very vocal and very keen to destroy the foundations of that society, I have noticed.

Despite the liberties granted to them magnanimously by Christian society, they nevertheless refuse to reciprocate this kindness and instead seek laws and conventions designed to limit the rights of believers to practice their faith freely.

Atheism produces nothing but demands everything, a comparatively TINY minority of Atheists think it right that a majority christian nation conforms entirely to an Atheistic way of doing things, all the while refusing to acknowledge that all of the freedoms they enjoy and abuse stem from the faith they hate so much.

An Atheistic society is an authoritarian horror and a police state, and yet this is what the Atheist movement would have us emulate.  This MUST NOT be allowed to happen.

Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Distind on February 22, 2013, 12:00:13 pm
Just because I'm sure someone will see the humor in this.

My first through on reading this? "Jesus fucking christ"

A few quick notes, the US isn't a christian country. We've got a lot of christians, they've been influential throughout it's history, but none of them have managed anything beyond adding god into the pledge and onto currency. Which is almost certainly a good thing for people like you because of all the factions of christianity the founding fathers wouldn't have picked yours. Largely as it didn't exist yet. I'm taking a bit of a bet, but there's only a few who have the balls to call this a christian country, and most of them where created well after we were already a country.

Which amusingly could make your religion itself American. Even if the country itself doesn't particularly care.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 22, 2013, 12:00:47 pm
I know there's some rule about not feeding the troll but, I feel like indulging myself.

Atheists and so-called "non-religious" people residing in christian countries are always very vocal and very keen to destroy the foundations of that society, I have noticed.
In what way have you noticed this? And in what "Christian countries"?

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Despite the liberties granted to them magnanimously by Christian society, they nevertheless refuse to reciprocate this kindness and instead seek laws and conventions designed to limit the rights of believers to practice their faith freely.
This depends on what society you're even talking about. Start out by picking a so-called "Christian society" and go from there.

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Atheism produces nothing but demands everything, a comparatively TINY minority of Atheists think it right that a majority christian nation conforms entirely to an Atheistic way of doing things, all the while refusing to acknowledge that all of the freedoms they enjoy and abuse stem from the faith they hate so much.

An Atheistic society is an authoritarian horror and a police state, and yet this is what the Atheist movement would have us emulate.  This MUST NOT be allowed to happen.
Can you come up with any examples of a "TINY minority of Atheists" trying to force a majority Christian nation to conform to "an Atheistic way of doing things"? Or a society that, because of a prevailing disbelief in god(s), is an "authoritarian horror and a police state"? Honestly all I see are vague assertions and crass generalizations.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 22, 2013, 12:13:50 pm
A few quick notes, the US isn't a christian country.

I wasn't referring to America, nor am I even american.

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We've got a lot of christians, they've been influential throughout it's history, but none of them have managed anything beyond adding god into the pledge and onto currency.

So you're saying that all of the great minds that contributed to America's social, economic and military success since 1776 have all been Atheists and all christians have done in that time is put up monuments?  That's a very twisted view of your history...

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Which amusingly could make your religion itself American. Even if the country itself doesn't particularly care.

The Church of England is an American religion now?  Have you torn up the declaration of independance while I wasn't looking?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 22, 2013, 12:16:14 pm
I know there's some rule about not feeding the troll but, I feel like indulging myself.

Atheists and so-called "non-religious" people residing in christian countries are always very vocal and very keen to destroy the foundations of that society, I have noticed.
In what way have you noticed this? And in what "Christian countries"?

Case in point, The United Kingdom.  Atheists and homosexuals have spent the last half century trying to force their social orthodoxy onto our national church.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 22, 2013, 12:17:11 pm
A few quick notes, the US isn't a christian country.

I wasn't referring to America, nor am I even american.

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We've got a lot of christians, they've been influential throughout it's history, but none of them have managed anything beyond adding god into the pledge and onto currency.

So you're saying that all of the great minds that contributed to America's social, economic and military success since 1776 have all been Atheists and all christians have done in that time is put up monuments?  That's a very twisted view of your history...
But how much of that was a result of these peoples' Christianity?

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Which amusingly could make your religion itself American. Even if the country itself doesn't particularly care.

The Church of England is an American religion now?  Have you torn up the declaration of independance while I wasn't looking?
wat
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 22, 2013, 12:18:03 pm
I know there's some rule about not feeding the troll but, I feel like indulging myself.

Atheists and so-called "non-religious" people residing in christian countries are always very vocal and very keen to destroy the foundations of that society, I have noticed.
In what way have you noticed this? And in what "Christian countries"?

Case in point, The United Kingdom.  Atheists and homosexuals have spent the last half century trying to force their social orthodoxy onto our national church.
Okay, you're getting closer to an answer we can work with. Now, what has specifically been done that you view as an attack on the CoE?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 22, 2013, 12:19:10 pm
Hey, thanks for making a thread of your own for me to troll without derailing another thread.  That was awfully considerate of you.

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Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Askold on February 22, 2013, 01:05:42 pm
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Which amusingly could make your religion itself American. Even if the country itself doesn't particularly care.

The Church of England is an American religion now?  Have you torn up the declaration of independance while I wasn't looking?

That would mean that USA becomes British not the other way round. Church of England would became american religion only if:
a) USA takes over Britain and b) American in this case refers to USA and not the continents.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: ironbite on February 22, 2013, 01:20:31 pm
OH LOOK SOMEONE SPECIAL FOR ME TO POKE!

Ironbite-I'll get my stick.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 22, 2013, 01:30:34 pm
OH LOOK SOMEONE SPECIAL FOR ME TO POKE!

Ironbite-I'll get my stick.

Dare I ask where you've been keeping that stick? *raises eyebrow*

I kid, of course. ;)
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: ThunderWulf on February 22, 2013, 01:49:34 pm
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Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: JohnE on February 22, 2013, 01:52:34 pm
Christians and other religious people residing in secular countries are always very vocal and very keen to destroy the foundations of that society, I have noticed.

Despite the liberties granted to them magnanimously by secular society, they nevertheless refuse to reciprocate this kindness and instead seek laws and conventions designed to limit the rights of non-believers to freely not practice a faith.

Christianity produces nothing but demands everything, and think it right that a secular nation conforms entirely to an Christian way of doing things, all the while refusing to acknowledge that all of the freedoms they enjoy and abuse stem from the lack of faith they hate so much.

An Christian society is an authoritarian horror and a police state, and yet this is what the Christian movement would have us emulate.  This MUST NOT be allowed to happen.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 22, 2013, 01:58:20 pm
0/10, obvious troll is obvious

Still keeping it for the lulz until it gets boring
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Distind on February 22, 2013, 02:45:03 pm
Oh wow.

I figured american because... well... most of the brits I know consider the COE a bit of a joke. Including the Christians.

Ok, you do live in a nominally christian country. See how well that's worked out for you? Though I will point out that my founders looked at your church and intentionally excluded it from any of our founding documents. They were breaking away at the time, but we've wound up with plenty of new groups over here to make up the difference and then some if you compare the number of people who are religious across the two countries.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Bezron on February 22, 2013, 03:45:50 pm
Just to save time, let me respond to the initial post and all responses by the initial poster with a hearty :


[citation needed]
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Radiation on February 22, 2013, 04:06:16 pm
This is pretty amusing... for now.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Old Viking on February 22, 2013, 04:40:35 pm
It would be ungracious of me not to say "Thanks" for the liberties that Christians extend so magnanimously.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 22, 2013, 04:54:27 pm
This is pretty amusing... for now.

Why am I imagining the mods as Roman Emperors?  I can just see the gladiator arena in my head, with the mods acting as Caesar holding his thumb out.  Their judgment will determine whether this thread lives or dies.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: rookie on February 22, 2013, 04:58:20 pm

Why am I imagining the mods as Roman Emperors?  I can just see the gladiator arena in my head, with the mods acting as Caesar holding his thumb out.  Their judgment will determine whether this thread lives or dies.

Because when they have mod meetings, they generally dress in togas?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 22, 2013, 05:00:48 pm

Why am I imagining the mods as Roman Emperors?  I can just see the gladiator arena in my head, with the mods acting as Caesar holding his thumb out.  Their judgment will determine whether this thread lives or dies.

Because when they have mod meetings, they generally dress in togas?

It's true. Before we enter the mod room, we all put on our togas, or, if a toga is not available, we improvise with diaper pins and our bedsheets.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 22, 2013, 05:03:28 pm

Why am I imagining the mods as Roman Emperors?  I can just see the gladiator arena in my head, with the mods acting as Caesar holding his thumb out.  Their judgment will determine whether this thread lives or dies.

Because when they have mod meetings, they generally dress in togas?

It's true. Before we enter the mod room, we all put on our togas, or, if a toga is not available, we improvise with diaper pins and our bedsheets.
I get the feeling Atheism Exposed does the same thing, but with the bedsheets on his head.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 22, 2013, 05:06:26 pm

Why am I imagining the mods as Roman Emperors?  I can just see the gladiator arena in my head, with the mods acting as Caesar holding his thumb out.  Their judgment will determine whether this thread lives or dies.

Because when they have mod meetings, they generally dress in togas?

It's true. Before we enter the mod room, we all put on our togas, or, if a toga is not available, we improvise with diaper pins and our bedsheets.

I was expecting that to end with "we improvise and just go naked."
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Saturn500 on February 22, 2013, 05:57:55 pm
Hey, where'd he go? Don't tell me he left already?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Nightangel8212 on February 22, 2013, 06:31:22 pm
Could be he ran off, could be he has stuff he has to do IRL. Give it a while longer, we may still have our chew toy. :P
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 22, 2013, 06:32:34 pm
This IS an entertaining thread.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Dakota Bob on February 22, 2013, 06:41:04 pm
I know there's some rule about not feeding the troll but, I feel like indulging myself.

Atheists and so-called "non-religious" people residing in christian countries are always very vocal and very keen to destroy the foundations of that society, I have noticed.
In what way have you noticed this? And in what "Christian countries"?

Case in point, The United Kingdom.  Atheists and homosexuals have spent the last half century trying to force their social orthodoxy onto our national church.

I'm glad somebody noticed, I've really been busting my ass trying to take that thing over, y'know?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Auggziliary on February 22, 2013, 07:51:31 pm
What is this
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 22, 2013, 08:20:59 pm
I know there's some rule about not feeding the troll but, I feel like indulging myself.

Atheists and so-called "non-religious" people residing in christian countries are always very vocal and very keen to destroy the foundations of that society, I have noticed.
In what way have you noticed this? And in what "Christian countries"?

Case in point, The United Kingdom.  Atheists and homosexuals have spent the last half century trying to force their social orthodoxy onto our national church.

I'm glad somebody noticed, I've really been busting my ass trying to take that thing over, y'know?

Hey! Hands off! The land of Monty Python and Doctor Who is MINE!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 22, 2013, 08:53:45 pm
I know there's some rule about not feeding the troll but, I feel like indulging myself.

Atheists and so-called "non-religious" people residing in christian countries are always very vocal and very keen to destroy the foundations of that society, I have noticed.
In what way have you noticed this? And in what "Christian countries"?

Case in point, The United Kingdom.  Atheists and homosexuals have spent the last half century trying to force their social orthodoxy onto our national church.

I'm glad somebody noticed, I've really been busting my ass trying to take that thing over, y'know?

Hey! Hands off! The land of Monty Python and Doctor Who is MINE!
I dunno about Doctor Who, but in case you didn't notice, I'm the Monty Python freak here.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: JohnE on February 22, 2013, 09:02:51 pm
Oh no! It's the atheists!

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"SECULARIZE! SECULARIZE!"
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Stormwarden on February 22, 2013, 09:17:58 pm
Did I hear "toga party?" *gets his toga and the biggest keg within a 200-mile radius* TOGA, TOGA- wait, what? This is a thread...well...hmmm...I'll be damned, it's actually pretty amusing. *sits down with a beer, pretzels, and lots of pizza rolls* Hope he returns, this is gonna be good.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 22, 2013, 11:24:51 pm
Could be he ran off, could be he has stuff he has to do IRL. Give it a while longer, we may still have our chew toy. :P

He could be jerking off and then whipping himself out of shame.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: ironbite on February 22, 2013, 11:33:20 pm
You're no longer invited over to my house if you're gonna spill my masturbatory regime at the drop of a hat
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 23, 2013, 12:27:35 am
Could be he ran off, could be he has stuff he has to do IRL. Give it a while longer, we may still have our chew toy. :P

He could be jerking off and then whipping himself out of shame.
I do that but not out of shame.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 23, 2013, 04:53:08 am
He could be jerking off and then whipping himself out of shame.
Pfft, I do that all the time, and I don't find it the least bit shameful.

Oh, you meant "whipping himself, out of shame". Carry on, then.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Thejebusfire on February 23, 2013, 01:40:06 pm
I always miss all the good trolls.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Nightangel8212 on February 23, 2013, 01:59:04 pm
Yeah, I don't think he's coming back.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 23, 2013, 02:51:15 pm
Yeah, I don't think he's coming back.
Then 2/10 is the best I can give him.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Alehksunos on February 23, 2013, 03:53:44 pm
Christians and other religious people residing in secular countries are always very vocal and very keen to destroy the foundations of that society, I have noticed.

Despite the liberties granted to them magnanimously by secular society, they nevertheless refuse to reciprocate this kindness and instead seek laws and conventions designed to limit the rights of non-believers to freely not practice a faith.

Christianity produces nothing but demands everything, and think it right that a secular nation conforms entirely to an Christian way of doing things, all the while refusing to acknowledge that all of the freedoms they enjoy and abuse stem from the lack of faith they hate so much.

An Christian society is an authoritarian horror and a police state, and yet this is what the Christian movement would have us emulate.  This MUST NOT be allowed to happen.
I know you were talking to someone, possibly a troll, who came to this forum specifically to bait users, but I really like this post.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: SpaceProg on February 23, 2013, 04:47:57 pm
Hey! Hands off! The land of Monty Python and Doctor Who is MINE!
If you want to be technically technical to the technicalth power... Doctor Who is a Canadian invention.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 23, 2013, 05:29:16 pm
Hey! Hands off! The land of Monty Python and Doctor Who is MINE!
If you want to be technically technical to the technicalth power... Doctor Who is a Canadian invention.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R78l6ZOPy9o
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: SpaceProg on February 23, 2013, 05:31:37 pm
Blah... would be when I'm on narrowband...
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 24, 2013, 07:20:27 pm
could be he has stuff he has to do IRL.

This might be the first successful use of deductive reasoning by an Atheist. 

Some of us work for a living...
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Cerim Treascair on February 24, 2013, 07:23:45 pm
could be he has stuff he has to do IRL.

This might be the first successful use of deductive reasoning by an Atheist. 

Some of us work for a living...

Aw! you're back! <3 I've been looking to soak my blades again...

And guess what, bucky? Most of us work for a living too.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 24, 2013, 07:25:48 pm
I figured american because... well... most of the brits I know consider the COE a bit of a joke. Including the Christians.

The CofE is widely considered to be such because the Atheist cult has effectively used its political machinations to hamstring it over the last hundred years.

In days past it was a beacon of hope and morality, the truest form of christianity and the ONLY Christian social structure free of the strangling grip of the atheist-infused Catholic church. 

But successive generations of Atheistic politicians have brought us to the point where the ordaining of women and homosexuals to the priesthood isn't a matter for internal discussion, it's practically a mandate of the Atheist political establishment. 

Get your disgusting perversions out of my church, this I demand!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Auggziliary on February 24, 2013, 07:35:16 pm
I figured american because... well... most of the brits I know consider the COE a bit of a joke. Including the Christians.


But successive generations of Atheistic politicians have brought us to the point where the ordaining of women and homosexuals to the priesthood isn't a matter for internal discussion, it's practically a mandate of the Atheist political establishment. 

Get your disgusting perversions out of my church, this I demand!

Wut
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 24, 2013, 07:36:45 pm
I figured american because... well... most of the brits I know consider the COE a bit of a joke. Including the Christians.

The CofE is widely considered to be such because the Atheist cult has effectively used its political machinations to hamstring it over the last hundred years.

In days past it was a beacon of hope and morality, the truest form of christianity and the ONLY Christian social structure free of the strangling grip of the atheist-infused Catholic church. 

But successive generations of Atheistic politicians have brought us to the point where the ordaining of women and homosexuals to the priesthood isn't a matter for internal discussion, it's practically a mandate of the Atheist political establishment. 

Get your disgusting perversions out of my church, this I demand!
Oh shit, he's got us there. We atheists (because everyone on this forum is totally an atheist) are all in league with one another, connected in a vast atheistic network. It doesn't matter if it's British politicians or people on a moderately attended forum, we're basically the Legion of Doom, conspiring to *gasp* advance human rights. So I'm glad that you told us, specifically, to get our "disgusting perversions" out of your church, because we totally have power over that. Hang on, I'm on the line with members of the Bilderberg group but I'll give David Cameron a ring in just a few, okay?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 24, 2013, 07:38:44 pm
I figured american because... well... most of the brits I know consider the COE a bit of a joke. Including the Christians.

The CofE is widely considered to be such because the Atheist cult has effectively used its political machinations to hamstring it over the last hundred years.

In days past it was a beacon of hope and morality, the truest form of christianity and the ONLY Christian social structure free of the strangling grip of the atheist-infused Catholic church. 

But successive generations of Atheistic politicians have brought us to the point where the ordaining of women and homosexuals to the priesthood isn't a matter for internal discussion, it's practically a mandate of the Atheist political establishment. 

Get your disgusting perversions out of my church, this I demand!

Uh...

Catholicism is, by its very definition, not atheist.

Also, it is the very constituents of the Anglican Church that are calling for equality in the priesthood.  Catholic Church has literally nothing to do with this -- especially since it's far FAR behind the Anglican Church socially anyways.  (You won't see women in the priesthood, nor open homosexuals.)

Not to mention gay rights and women's rights are not 'atheist'.  They're liberal.  The two words are not synonymous, no matter how much you force them to be.

Look at yourself.  Is this really what God wants you to do?  The one who sent his very son to you?

You are wanting to turn the Anglican church into the Catholic Church minus the pope.  Is that really what you want?

By the way, I'm not an atheist.  I'm a (male) witch who is considering Wicca.  Do you wish to burn me at the stake?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 24, 2013, 07:49:01 pm
I figured american because... well... most of the brits I know consider the COE a bit of a joke. Including the Christians.

The CofE is widely considered to be such because the Atheist cult has effectively used its political machinations to hamstring it over the last hundred years.

In days past it was a beacon of hope and morality, the truest form of christianity and the ONLY Christian social structure free of the strangling grip of the atheist-infused Catholic church. 

But successive generations of Atheistic politicians have brought us to the point where the ordaining of women and homosexuals to the priesthood isn't a matter for internal discussion, it's practically a mandate of the Atheist political establishment. 

Get your disgusting perversions out of my church, this I demand!
Look at yourself.  Is this really what God wants you to do?  The one who sent his very son to you?
You must have missed the lost Eleventh Commandment: Thou shalt be a total douchenozzle to people you do not know on the Internet.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 24, 2013, 07:52:35 pm
I figured american because... well... most of the brits I know consider the COE a bit of a joke. Including the Christians.

The CofE is widely considered to be such because the Atheist cult has effectively used its political machinations to hamstring it over the last hundred years.

In days past it was a beacon of hope and morality, the truest form of christianity and the ONLY Christian social structure free of the strangling grip of the atheist-infused Catholic church. 

But successive generations of Atheistic politicians have brought us to the point where the ordaining of women and homosexuals to the priesthood isn't a matter for internal discussion, it's practically a mandate of the Atheist political establishment. 

Get your disgusting perversions out of my church, this I demand!

Uh...

Catholicism is, by its very definition, not atheist.

Also, it is the very constituents of the Anglican Church that are calling for equality in the priesthood.  Catholic Church has literally nothing to do with this -- especially since it's far FAR behind the Anglican Church socially anyways.  (You won't see women in the priesthood, nor open homosexuals.)

Not to mention gay rights and women's rights are not 'atheist'.  They're liberal.  The two words are not synonymous, no matter how much you force them to be.

Look at yourself.  Is this really what God wants you to do?  The one who sent his very son to you?

You are wanting to turn the Anglican church into the Catholic Church minus the pope.  Is that really what you want?

By the way, I'm not an atheist.  I'm a (male) witch who is considering Wicca.  Do you wish to burn me at the stake?

No Church that hopes to remain open to new members will ever be free from Antitheist infiltration. 

If you had actually read my post you would see I am not likening my church to Catholicism but setting us apart.  The Vatican, over the last century, has opened itself up to Atheistic child molesters and Darwinists in an attempt to maintain its user base in the face of Atheist social crusaders who demand these things be acceptable and that all churches be forced to conform.

I would really rather not see my church fall to that level...
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Witchyjoshy on February 24, 2013, 07:57:57 pm
I already know you're a poe, but I'll entertain one last post.

No Church that hopes to remain open to new members will ever be free from Antitheist infiltration.

Why would an antitheist set one foot near religion unless they were forced to by the religious?

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If you had actually read my post you would see I am not likening my church to Catholicism but setting us apart.

And if you had actually read my post, I'm saying that your very desires would drag the church closer to Catholicism than you realize.

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The Vatican, over the last century, has opened itself up to Atheistic child molesters and Darwinists in an attempt to maintain its user base

Churches are not websites, they don't have "user bases", they have congregations.  Another poe slip up.

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in the face of Atheist social crusaders who demand these things be acceptable and that all churches be forced to conform.

Every Atheist I know condemns child molestors.  Every.  Atheist.

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I would really rather not see my church fall to that level...

And yet that's what you're asking for ;D
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 24, 2013, 07:59:23 pm
AE:

The Bible itself says "God is love." Your words and actions show a distinct lack of God in your thinking.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 24, 2013, 07:59:53 pm
I figured american because... well... most of the brits I know consider the COE a bit of a joke. Including the Christians.

The CofE is widely considered to be such because the Atheist cult has effectively used its political machinations to hamstring it over the last hundred years.

In days past it was a beacon of hope and morality, the truest form of christianity and the ONLY Christian social structure free of the strangling grip of the atheist-infused Catholic church. 

But successive generations of Atheistic politicians have brought us to the point where the ordaining of women and homosexuals to the priesthood isn't a matter for internal discussion, it's practically a mandate of the Atheist political establishment. 

Get your disgusting perversions out of my church, this I demand!

Uh...

Catholicism is, by its very definition, not atheist.

Also, it is the very constituents of the Anglican Church that are calling for equality in the priesthood.  Catholic Church has literally nothing to do with this -- especially since it's far FAR behind the Anglican Church socially anyways.  (You won't see women in the priesthood, nor open homosexuals.)

Not to mention gay rights and women's rights are not 'atheist'.  They're liberal.  The two words are not synonymous, no matter how much you force them to be.

Look at yourself.  Is this really what God wants you to do?  The one who sent his very son to you?

You are wanting to turn the Anglican church into the Catholic Church minus the pope.  Is that really what you want?

By the way, I'm not an atheist.  I'm a (male) witch who is considering Wicca.  Do you wish to burn me at the stake?

No Church that hopes to remain open to new members will ever be free from Antitheist infiltration. 

If you had actually read my post you would see I am not likening my church to Catholicism but setting us apart.  The Vatican, over the last century, has opened itself up to Atheistic child molesters and Darwinists in an attempt to maintain its user base in the face of Atheist social crusaders who demand these things be acceptable and that all churches be forced to conform.

I would really rather not see my church fall to that level...
So he's basically accusing atheists of every evil deed short of conspiring with the Borg?

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Post by: Scotsgit on February 24, 2013, 08:18:35 pm
I figured american because... well... most of the brits I know consider the COE a bit of a joke. Including the Christians.



No, the CofE is seen as such because it's famous for being completely out of touch with what's going on around it.  Just look at what happened when the 'Occupy' people started camping outside, the place closed its doors to them.  There may be one or two of the clergy living in the real world, the rest seem to think they're living in the fluffy world of Miss Marple.

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In days past it was a beacon of hope and morality, the truest form of christianity and the ONLY Christian social structure free of the strangling grip of the atheist-infused Catholic church. 

[/quote]

You know, I've read some rubbish in my time, but that takes the biscuit.  But you've put a point forward, care to prove it?

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But successive generations of Atheistic politicians have brought us to the point where the ordaining of women and homosexuals to the priesthood isn't a matter for internal discussion, it's practically a mandate of the Atheist political establishment. 

Get your disgusting perversions out of my church, this I demand!

Actually, what has brought the CofE to this is their eternal toadying to whoever's in power, being part of the establishment and doing things like standing up for the poor and oppressed in society.  Instead, they've gone along with whoever was in power, be it the local lord or the Government.  No wonder people left in their droves.
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Post by: Thejebusfire on February 24, 2013, 10:17:47 pm


The CofE is widely considered to be such because the Atheist cult has effectively used its political machinations to hamstring it over the last hundred years.

In days past it was a beacon of hope and morality, the truest form of christianity and the ONLY Christian social structure free of the strangling grip of the atheist-infused Catholic church. 

But successive generations of Atheistic politicians have brought us to the point where the ordaining of women and homosexuals to the priesthood isn't a matter for internal discussion, it's practically a mandate of the Atheist political establishment. 

Get your disgusting perversions out of my church, this I demand!

Oh no! Not the equal rights!

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Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: JohnE on February 24, 2013, 11:19:57 pm
Do you have any evidence that Catholic priest child molesters are atheists? Or is it just your preconceived notion that bad person = atheist?
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Post by: Nightangel8212 on February 25, 2013, 12:16:36 am
could be he has stuff he has to do IRL.

This might be the first successful use of deductive reasoning by an Atheist. 

Some of us work for a living...

WRONG! Not an Atheist. I'm Pagan. Believe it or not, there ARE people who have religions on this board, hun. The only ones we're after are the rabid fundamentalists, not the moderates.
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Post by: ironbite on February 25, 2013, 12:25:25 am
could be he has stuff he has to do IRL.

This might be the first successful use of deductive reasoning by an Atheist. 

Some of us work for a living...

And what we don't?  Is that what you're saying?

Ironbite-oh sweetheart....YOU'RE GONNA GO FAR HERE!  Hold my beer...I'm going in dry.
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Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 25, 2013, 02:27:58 am
Get your disgusting perversions out of my church, this I demand!

No.

(http://i.imgur.com/OxPjY2T.png)

All your church are belong to us.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Stormwarden on February 25, 2013, 02:50:17 am
ironbite: I was wondering why I was hearing the song from "Deliverance" in the background.

First of all: Newton was a Christian, and if you did your research, you'd know that. The rest of your junk claims have already been addressed, save that too frequently in the US, atheists have to bite their tongues for fear of losing their jobs, their friends, or their families, because of fundies such as yourself being complete and utter cuntwaffles.

Look into the Nigerian witch children, learn what persecution is, and get back to me. *shoots a rubber band at your chest* On your way.
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Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 25, 2013, 06:40:33 am
Do you have any evidence that Catholic priest child molesters are atheists? Or is it just your preconceived notion that bad person = atheist?

Sexual immorality is IN ITSELF an evidence of Atheism. 
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Post by: Nightangel8212 on February 25, 2013, 06:47:47 am
Do you have any evidence that Catholic priest child molesters are atheists? Or is it just your preconceived notion that bad person = atheist?

Sexual immorality is IN ITSELF an evidence of Atheism.

That's pretty funny considering the Bible Belt statistically has the highest teen pregnancy and divorce rates in the United States...

What do you have to say about people who have no intentions of ever getting married? Because... I don't. No plans on ever having kids either.
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Post by: kefkaownsall on February 25, 2013, 07:47:02 am
What about people like me who want to get married but unsure about kids.
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Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 08:45:28 am
Do you have any evidence that Catholic priest child molesters are atheists? Or is it just your preconceived notion that bad person = atheist?

Sexual immorality is IN ITSELF an evidence of Atheism.
Atheism is also why the dinosaurs died out.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 25, 2013, 09:08:08 am
Do you have any evidence that Catholic priest child molesters are atheists? Or is it just your preconceived notion that bad person = atheist?

Sexual immorality is IN ITSELF an evidence of Atheism.

Oh, really? You might find this article of interest.

http://www.cracked.com/article_16546_the-6-raunchiest-most-depraved-sex-acts-from-bible.html
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 09:37:23 am
Atheism killed Bambi's mom.
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Post by: Random Gal on February 25, 2013, 09:41:12 am
Atheism killed Bambi's mom.
It's also responsible for 9/11, the Holocaust, slavery, the dinosaur extinction, and spilling my drink. :P
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 25, 2013, 09:42:58 am
Don't forget the Trail of Tears, the Inquisition, the Great Chicago Fire and Twilight.
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Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 09:47:31 am
Don't forget the Trail of Tears, the Inquisition, the Great Chicago Fire and Twilight.
As well as a horribly unsatisfying conclusion to both The Sopranos and Lost.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: JohnE on February 25, 2013, 09:49:20 am
Do you have any evidence that Catholic priest child molesters are atheists? Or is it just your preconceived notion that bad person = atheist?
Sexual immorality is IN ITSELF an evidence of Atheism.
Yeah, that's what I figured.

Still not sure if you're pulling our leg.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 25, 2013, 09:53:15 am
Do you have any evidence that Catholic priest child molesters are atheists? Or is it just your preconceived notion that bad person = atheist?

Sexual immorality is IN ITSELF an evidence of Atheism.

What, like at Sodom and Gomorrah?  How about the orgies of Ancient Rome?  Or Egypt?  Wouldn't call any of the atheists.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 25, 2013, 09:54:14 am
[AE]Don't you know? You're either a Christian or an atheist. Anything else is just details.[/AE]
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 25, 2013, 09:56:34 am
[AE]Don't you know? You're either a Christian or an atheist. Anything else is just details.[/AE]

Ah, of course.  Silly me.
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Post by: m52nickerson on February 25, 2013, 10:48:33 am
Oh no! It's the atheists!

(http://www.art247.com/images/large/MIRRORPIX/WA/WA1620889.jpg)

"SECULARIZE! SECULARIZE!"

Daleks in a thread an no one notified me...what is wrong with you people?

In days past it was a beacon of hope and morality, the truest form of christianity and the ONLY Christian social structure free of the strangling grip of the atheist-infused Catholic church. 

But successive generations of Atheistic politicians have brought us to the point where the ordaining of women and homosexuals to the priesthood isn't a matter for internal discussion, it's practically a mandate of the Atheist political establishment. 

Get your disgusting perversions out of my church, this I demand!

The truest form of Christianity?  You are talking about the church of England right?  The Church that got it's start because the King wanted a divorce so he could marry another women, only to have her beheaded later to take another wife?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: RinellaWasHere on February 25, 2013, 12:05:56 pm
Do you have any evidence that Catholic priest child molesters are atheists? Or is it just your preconceived notion that bad person = atheist?

Sexual immorality is IN ITSELF an evidence of Atheism.

And no TRUE Scotsman would ever do such a thing!

(I'm a Scot, I can say that.)
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 25, 2013, 03:00:27 pm
Atheism killed Bambi's mom.
It's also responsible for 9/11, the Holocaust, slavery, the dinosaur extinction, and spilling my drink. :P

Your flippant comments illuminate more than you probably realise. 

Islam is one of the many masks worn by deceitful Atheists in their long war against God.

The Holocaust is clearly the work of the Atheist movement.  Jews, Jehovas witnesses and other believers put to the sword by a man who rejected God such that he could replace Him in the eyes of his people.

Slavery, I think you'll realise, was abolished through the works of Great Christians in the 19th century. 
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Post by: Material Defender on February 25, 2013, 03:10:28 pm
While Southern Baptists were trying their hardest to keep it rolling. Didn't apologize until the 1990s.

You do also realize Islam is a religion form the same family as Christianity?

I wish you could say something worthwhile at all.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: RinellaWasHere on February 25, 2013, 03:15:42 pm
Hitler claimed to be a Christian all his life. He may not have meant it, of course, but it was the faith he grew up in. And as a Christian myself, his faith really doesn't matter one way or the other. The Holocaust didn't happen because its perpetrators were or were not religious. It happened because human beings have an astounding capacity to dehumanize others, and because he offered a nation who felt like the world was against them a cheap scapegoat. It didn't matter how or if he prayed. It was evil, and no sane person condones it.
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Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 03:17:47 pm
Atheism killed Bambi's mom.
It's also responsible for 9/11, the Holocaust, slavery, the dinosaur extinction, and spilling my drink. :P

Your flippant comments illuminate more than you probably realise. 

Islam is one of the many masks worn by deceitful Atheists in their long war against God.

The Holocaust is clearly the work of the Atheist movement.  Jews, Jehovas witnesses and other believers put to the sword by a man who rejected God such that he could replace Him in the eyes of his people.

Slavery, I think you'll realise, was abolished through the works of Great Christians in the 19th century.
Muslims and Catholics are secret atheists now. This just keeps getting better. Tell me, were the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition also caused by atheists?
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Post by: Nightangel8212 on February 25, 2013, 03:17:53 pm
Atheism killed Bambi's mom.
It's also responsible for 9/11, the Holocaust, slavery, the dinosaur extinction, and spilling my drink. :P

Your flippant comments illuminate more than you probably realise. 

Islam is one of the many masks worn by deceitful Atheists in their long war against God.

The Holocaust is clearly the work of the Atheist movement.  Jews, Jehovas witnesses and other believers put to the sword by a man who rejected God such that he could replace Him in the eyes of his people.

Slavery, I think you'll realise, was abolished through the works of Great Christians in the 19th century.

Um... Islam is a RELIGION. They believe in the same God as you do. Atheists don't believe in ANY deities.

You should do a little more research on Hitler and the Holocaust. Hitler stated that he was doing GODS WORK by killing the Jews. He was a Christian.

And it's funny you're saying Christians are the ones responsibly for ABOLISHING slavery considering the Bible outlines how to treat your slaves. I take it you don't read your own holy book?

Oh, one more thing... we have rules on this forum that state you have to answer direct questions. So, I'll ask again:

What are your opinions on people who have no intentions of ever getting married or having kids?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 25, 2013, 03:27:55 pm
Atheism killed Bambi's mom.
It's also responsible for 9/11, the Holocaust, slavery, the dinosaur extinction, and spilling my drink. :P

Your flippant comments illuminate more than you probably realise. 

Islam is one of the many masks worn by deceitful Atheists in their long war against God.

The Holocaust is clearly the work of the Atheist movement.  Jews, Jehovas witnesses and other believers put to the sword by a man who rejected God such that he could replace Him in the eyes of his people.

Slavery, I think you'll realise, was abolished through the works of Great Christians in the 19th century.
Muslims and Catholics are secret atheists now. This just keeps getting better. Tell me, were the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition also caused by atheists?

I never claimed that Catholics are Atheists.  The Catholic church as an organisation, however, has a history of mutating itself to accept membership from all over the world, it was bound to grow to include some more pagan and atheistic elements eventually and the historical actions of the church would tend to confirm this
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: RinellaWasHere on February 25, 2013, 03:28:43 pm
And Protestantism comes from Catholicism, so if we're "mutated", so are you.
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Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 25, 2013, 03:29:58 pm

What are your opinions on people who have no intentions of ever getting married or having kids?

If they wish to maintain a celibate lifestyle, it's their choice.  I cannot endorse any course of action which involves sexual activity outside the covenant of marriage, though. 
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 03:34:06 pm
(http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/wwii-buckle.jpg)

"We were convinced that the people needs and requires this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out." -Adolf Hitler, 1933 Berlin Speech

(http://truereligiondebate.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/hitler-cardinal.jpg)

"The advantages of a personal and political nature that might arise from compromising with atheistic organizations would not outweigh the consequences which would become apparent in the destruction of general moral basic values. The national Government regards the two Christian confessions as the weightiest factors for the maintenance of our nationality. It will respect the agreements concluded between it and the federal States. Their rights are not to be infringed. But the Government hopes and expects that the work on the national and moral regeneration of our nation which it has made its task will, on the otherhand, be treated with the same respect." - Adolf Hitler, 1933 Reichstag speech

(http://jewmanist.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/HitlerAtMonument.jpg)

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. ...Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross..." - Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922
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Post by: RinellaWasHere on February 25, 2013, 03:35:25 pm
One Fuck Yeah for bringing up Hitler quotes without Godwining.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 03:35:53 pm
Atheism killed Bambi's mom.
It's also responsible for 9/11, the Holocaust, slavery, the dinosaur extinction, and spilling my drink. :P

Your flippant comments illuminate more than you probably realise. 

Islam is one of the many masks worn by deceitful Atheists in their long war against God.

The Holocaust is clearly the work of the Atheist movement.  Jews, Jehovas witnesses and other believers put to the sword by a man who rejected God such that he could replace Him in the eyes of his people.

Slavery, I think you'll realise, was abolished through the works of Great Christians in the 19th century.
Muslims and Catholics are secret atheists now. This just keeps getting better. Tell me, were the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition also caused by atheists?

I never claimed that Catholics are Atheists.
Though Hitler and many of his top officers were Catholics :P

So either Christians were responsible for the Holocaust or you're claiming they were all secret atheists.

EDIT: That's not to say they were good Christians, but that's just what they considered themselves.

EDIT II: Yeah I definitely phrased that poorly. Explanation is on the next page.
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Post by: RinellaWasHere on February 25, 2013, 03:36:54 pm
or maybe the fact that they were Christian isn't important at all
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 25, 2013, 03:38:09 pm
Professing one's Christianity and living it are two very different things.

Also there is fairly convincing evidence that a lot of the writings purported to be Adolf Hitler are postwar fabrications.  He lost the battle of the Atheist dictators against Stalin so naturally the Atheist movement would have been keen to disavow him as one of their own.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 03:38:28 pm
or maybe the fact that they were Christian isn't important at all
It's only important in that part of Nazi reasoning was based on Christian anti-Semitism, and that AE's argument was that they were atheists.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: RinellaWasHere on February 25, 2013, 03:41:25 pm
Professing one's Christianity and living it are two very different things.

Also there is fairly convincing evidence that a lot of the writings purported to be Adolf Hitler are postwar fabrications.  He lost the battle of the Atheist dictators against Stalin so naturally the Atheist movement would have been keen to disavow him as one of their own.

Again, Hitler's religious views are COMPLETELY UNIMPORTANT. What he did was wrong because killing people is wrong. He could have been any faith, and his actions would still be wrong.

or maybe the fact that they were Christian isn't important at all
It's only important in that part of Nazi reasoning was based on Christian anti-Semitism, and that AE's argument was that they were atheists.

I understand. I just want us to avoid attributing their actions to any faith. That's not a factor in it being evil.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 03:42:31 pm
Professing one's Christianity and living it are two very different things.
Though that puts you in the unfortunate "No True Scotsman" corner. The fact is, awful Christians exist. So do awful atheists (e.g. Stalin). Trying to blame all of history's problems on one group is intellectually lazy.

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Also there is fairly convincing evidence that a lot of the writings purported to be Adolf Hitler are postwar fabrications.  He lost the battle of the Atheist dictators against Stalin so naturally the Atheist movement would have been keen to disavow him as one of their own.
Including his speeches?...
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 25, 2013, 03:44:41 pm
Atheism killed Bambi's mom.
It's also responsible for 9/11, the Holocaust, slavery, the dinosaur extinction, and spilling my drink. :P

Your flippant comments illuminate more than you probably realise. 

Islam is one of the many masks worn by deceitful Atheists in their long war against God.

The Holocaust is clearly the work of the Atheist movement.  Jews, Jehovas witnesses and other believers put to the sword by a man who rejected God such that he could replace Him in the eyes of his people.

Slavery, I think you'll realise, was abolished through the works of Great Christians in the 19th century.
Muslims and Catholics are secret atheists now. This just keeps getting better. Tell me, were the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition also caused by atheists?

I never claimed that Catholics are Atheists.  The Catholic church as an organisation, however, has a history of mutating itself to accept membership from all over the world, it was bound to grow to include some more pagan and atheistic elements eventually and the historical actions of the church would tend to confirm this

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In days past it was a beacon of hope and morality, the truest form of christianity and the ONLY Christian social structure free of the strangling grip of the atheist-infused Catholic church.

Sorry, you were saying?

Oh and I think you'll find out that there's nothing wrong with the Catholic Church accepting membership from all over the world.  In fact, I'm pretty sure that was what Jesus wanted.
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Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 25, 2013, 03:44:55 pm
or maybe the fact that they were Christian isn't important at all
It's only important in that part of Nazi reasoning was based on Christian anti-Semitism, and that AE's argument was that they were atheists.

Well let's put it to the test, shall we?

Contention 1: Islam is just Atheism in a funny costume.  The inherent hatred of Christ is alive in both groups.
Contention 2: The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

If these are both true, the Atheist community would be steadfast in its support of Palestine and highly critical of western support of Israel.

Funny, that's exactly what we see, eh?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 03:46:12 pm
Professing one's Christianity and living it are two very different things.

Also there is fairly convincing evidence that a lot of the writings purported to be Adolf Hitler are postwar fabrications.  He lost the battle of the Atheist dictators against Stalin so naturally the Atheist movement would have been keen to disavow him as one of their own.

Again, Hitler's religious views are COMPLETELY UNIMPORTANT. What he did was wrong because killing people is wrong. He could have been any faith, and his actions would still be wrong.

or maybe the fact that they were Christian isn't important at all
It's only important in that part of Nazi reasoning was based on Christian anti-Semitism, and that AE's argument was that they were atheists.

I understand. I just want us to avoid attributing their actions to any faith. That's not a factor in it being evil.
We can disagree on how much weight we give to religiosity being a motivating factor for the Nazis, along with racial purity, but we shouldn't merely ignore it and just say "Hitler was evil, the end."
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Post by: Scotsgit on February 25, 2013, 03:48:29 pm
or maybe the fact that they were Christian isn't important at all
It's only important in that part of Nazi reasoning was based on Christian anti-Semitism, and that AE's argument was that they were atheists.

Well let's put it to the test, shall we?

Contention 1: Islam is just Atheism in a funny costume.  The inherent hatred of Christ is alive in both groups.
Contention 2: The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

If these are both true, the Atheist community would be steadfast in its support of Palestine and highly critical of western support of Israel.

Funny, that's exactly what we see, eh?

"Go amongst those called Christians, for there you will always be welcome"  The Quran.  Now, if they were all atheists, why would they be directed to go amongst them?  Come to that, why would Muslims say "Allah Akhbar" which means "God is great"?
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Post by: Nightangel8212 on February 25, 2013, 04:05:12 pm

What are your opinions on people who have no intentions of ever getting married or having kids?

If they wish to maintain a celibate lifestyle, it's their choice.  I cannot endorse any course of action which involves sexual activity outside the covenant of marriage, though.

So I'm a horrible person because I'm not married and I have sex with my boyfriend? I guess to your mind, that makes me a slut, even though I've never had sex with anybody but him. How does having a ring on your finger magically make it okay?
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Post by: JohnE on February 25, 2013, 04:13:52 pm
Muslims don't hate Jesus. He's highly praised in the Quran.

Most atheists don't hate Jesus either. Some think he didn't exist. Other think he was a good moral teacher, just not God.

Yes, the holocaust had a lot to do with hating Jews, but homosexuals (and atheists I think, but I'm not positive) were also rounded up, tortured, and killed. Christians were not. Hardly seems like the actions of an atheistic regime.

Not all atheists support Palestine. Some support Isreal. Others, like myself, think there is blame on both sides and think both sides need to knock it off and make some concessions.
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Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 25, 2013, 04:16:50 pm

What are your opinions on people who have no intentions of ever getting married or having kids?

If they wish to maintain a celibate lifestyle, it's their choice.  I cannot endorse any course of action which involves sexual activity outside the covenant of marriage, though.

So I'm a horrible person because I'm not married and I have sex with my boyfriend? I guess to your mind, that makes me a slut, even though I've never had sex with anybody but him. How does having a ring on your finger magically make it okay?

Now you're just being melodramatic.  Although it does also appear you seem to have some awareness of the non-ideal nature of your behaviour, given your apparent hypersensitiveness to criticism of it.  I'm not about to start calling you names, although I do disagree with the acceptability of premarital sex.
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Post by: Nightangel8212 on February 25, 2013, 04:37:46 pm

What are your opinions on people who have no intentions of ever getting married or having kids?

If they wish to maintain a celibate lifestyle, it's their choice.  I cannot endorse any course of action which involves sexual activity outside the covenant of marriage, though.

So I'm a horrible person because I'm not married and I have sex with my boyfriend? I guess to your mind, that makes me a slut, even though I've never had sex with anybody but him. How does having a ring on your finger magically make it okay?

Now you're just being melodramatic.  Although it does also appear you seem to have some awareness of the non-ideal nature of your behaviour, given your apparent hypersensitiveness to criticism of it.  I'm not about to start calling you names, although I do disagree with the acceptability of premarital sex.

And you're NOT being melodramatic? And my nature is very ideal. Why would I want to spend thousands of dollars getting married just so me and my boyfriend can engage in an act that is entirely natural? It's the CHRISTIANS who are hypersensitive when it comes to sex. How many non-Christians do you know scream about what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms? And again, why does having a ring on your finger suddenly make it okay? Sex has been proven to have many medical benefits, so why should it be open ONLY to those who say "I do?"
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Post by: Scotsgit on February 25, 2013, 05:08:08 pm
Muslims don't hate Jesus. He's highly praised in the Quran.

Most atheists don't hate Jesus either. Some think he didn't exist. Other think he was a good moral teacher, just not God.

Yes, the holocaust had a lot to do with hating Jews, but homosexuals (and atheists I think, but I'm not positive) were also rounded up, tortured, and killed. Christians were not. Hardly seems like the actions of an atheistic regime.

Not all atheists support Palestine. Some support Isreal. Others, like myself, think there is blame on both sides and think both sides need to knock it off and make some concessions.

Those Communists who were also atheists would have been taken to the camps, although they were taken because they were Communists rather than anything else.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 25, 2013, 05:09:00 pm
snip


I've asked you a question.  I want an answer.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 25, 2013, 05:42:28 pm
or maybe the fact that they were Christian isn't important at all
It's only important in that part of Nazi reasoning was based on Christian anti-Semitism, and that AE's argument was that they were atheists.

Well let's put it to the test, shall we?

Contention 1: Islam is just Atheism in a funny costume.  The inherent hatred of Christ is alive in both groups.
Contention 2: The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

If these are both true, the Atheist community would be steadfast in its support of Palestine and highly critical of western support of Israel.

Funny, that's exactly what we see, eh?

"Go amongst those called Christians, for there you will always be welcome"  The Quran.  Now, if they were all atheists, why would they be directed to go amongst them?  Come to that, why would Muslims say "Allah Akhbar" which means "God is great"?

And therein lies the beauty of the whole arrangement.  Atheists wish to destroy christianity by driving people from it.  What better way to alienate people from a faith by creating a new group of violent primitive crazies and then declaring them to be related?  It's a classic example of a false-flag operation.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 06:02:21 pm
Okay my last response was rushed because I had class, Rinella, but I just want to clarify my position so it's more understandable. The Nazi Holocaust was the end result of multiple factors, which included racial, religious and political scapegoating of the Jewish people. Europe for centuries had been subjected to vicious anti-Jewish pogroms which stemmed from Christian anti-Judaism--Jews were often blamed for murdering Jesus, desecrating the Host and drinking the blood of Christian children, for example. Having studied the Holocaust I believe this type of thinking certainly had an impact in Germany, especially among everyday Germans. That Germany was already suffering from a wartime defeat and economic crisis made people even more willing to believe these lies. The Nazis also fused these anti-Jewish charges with racial animosity, with their constant calls for the preservation of the Aryan race against the "inferior" Jewish people. In order to study this type of event, you have to look at its totality. For example, it would be wrongheaded, in my opinion, to blame the September 11th attacks solely on Islamic fundamentalism and not examine the political causes of the event (or vice versa). Leaving out these details makes it harder to put such events in proper context. I hope that makes more sense.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 06:03:31 pm
or maybe the fact that they were Christian isn't important at all
It's only important in that part of Nazi reasoning was based on Christian anti-Semitism, and that AE's argument was that they were atheists.

Well let's put it to the test, shall we?

Contention 1: Islam is just Atheism in a funny costume.  The inherent hatred of Christ is alive in both groups.
Contention 2: The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

If these are both true, the Atheist community would be steadfast in its support of Palestine and highly critical of western support of Israel.

Funny, that's exactly what we see, eh?

"Go amongst those called Christians, for there you will always be welcome"  The Quran.  Now, if they were all atheists, why would they be directed to go amongst them?  Come to that, why would Muslims say "Allah Akhbar" which means "God is great"?

And therein lies the beauty of the whole arrangement.  Atheists wish to destroy christianity by driving people from it.  What better way to alienate people from a faith by creating a new group of violent primitive crazies and then declaring them to be related?  It's a classic example of a false-flag operation.
This, this right here is Jack Chick-level stupid. The idea that atheists concocted a religion centuries ago to defeat another religion in order to eliminate all religion makes no sense no matter which way you slice it, kid.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: RinellaWasHere on February 25, 2013, 06:32:21 pm
Okay my last response was rushed because I had class, Rinella, but I just want to clarify my position so it's more understandable. The Nazi Holocaust was the end result of multiple factors, which included racial, religious and political scapegoating of the Jewish people. Europe for centuries had been subjected to vicious anti-Jewish pogroms which stemmed from Christian anti-Judaism--Jews were often blamed for murdering Jesus, desecrating the Host and drinking the blood of Christian children, for example. Having studied the Holocaust I believe this type of thinking certainly had an impact in Germany, especially among everyday Germans. That Germany was already suffering from a wartime defeat and economic crisis made people even more willing to believe these lies. The Nazis also fused these anti-Jewish charges with racial animosity, with their constant calls for the preservation of the Aryan race against the "inferior" Jewish people. In order to study this type of event, you have to look at its totality. For example, it would be wrongheaded, in my opinion, to blame the September 11th attacks solely on Islamic fundamentalism and not examine the political causes of the event (or vice versa). Leaving out these details makes it harder to put such events in proper context. I hope that makes more sense.

Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I agree that we need to consider it a factor that allowed it to occur, and yes, to be honest, even partially motivated it. I just have a bit of a gut reaction to "Hitler was an X" discussions, probably born of knowing a few too many antitheists/fundies who like to say that the whole thing was because of his religious views. My bad.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 06:34:25 pm
Okay my last response was rushed because I had class, Rinella, but I just want to clarify my position so it's more understandable. The Nazi Holocaust was the end result of multiple factors, which included racial, religious and political scapegoating of the Jewish people. Europe for centuries had been subjected to vicious anti-Jewish pogroms which stemmed from Christian anti-Judaism--Jews were often blamed for murdering Jesus, desecrating the Host and drinking the blood of Christian children, for example. Having studied the Holocaust I believe this type of thinking certainly had an impact in Germany, especially among everyday Germans. That Germany was already suffering from a wartime defeat and economic crisis made people even more willing to believe these lies. The Nazis also fused these anti-Jewish charges with racial animosity, with their constant calls for the preservation of the Aryan race against the "inferior" Jewish people. In order to study this type of event, you have to look at its totality. For example, it would be wrongheaded, in my opinion, to blame the September 11th attacks solely on Islamic fundamentalism and not examine the political causes of the event (or vice versa). Leaving out these details makes it harder to put such events in proper context. I hope that makes more sense.

Yeah, I see where you're coming from. I agree that we need to consider it a factor that allowed it to occur, and yes, to be honest, even partially motivated it. I just have a bit of a gut reaction to "Hitler was an X" discussions, probably born of knowing a few too many antitheists/fundies who like to say that the whole thing was because of his religious views. My bad.
It's understandable because it's a really loaded topic--and Godwin's Law exists for a reason :)
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 25, 2013, 06:44:16 pm
or maybe the fact that they were Christian isn't important at all
It's only important in that part of Nazi reasoning was based on Christian anti-Semitism, and that AE's argument was that they were atheists.

Well let's put it to the test, shall we?

Contention 1: Islam is just Atheism in a funny costume.  The inherent hatred of Christ is alive in both groups.
Contention 2: The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

If these are both true, the Atheist community would be steadfast in its support of Palestine and highly critical of western support of Israel.

Funny, that's exactly what we see, eh?

"Go amongst those called Christians, for there you will always be welcome"  The Quran.  Now, if they were all atheists, why would they be directed to go amongst them?  Come to that, why would Muslims say "Allah Akhbar" which means "God is great"?

And therein lies the beauty of the whole arrangement.  Atheists wish to destroy christianity by driving people from it.  What better way to alienate people from a faith by creating a new group of violent primitive crazies and then declaring them to be related?  It's a classic example of a false-flag operation.

That has to be the stupidest pile of shite I've ever read.  Can you prove this?  Of course you can't, BECAUSE THERE IS NO FUCKING EVIDENCE OF THIS WHATSOEVER.

In fact, I'd like to hear your evidence, come on, cite some sources, show some proof or have a big cup of STFU.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Star Cluster on February 25, 2013, 06:53:01 pm
or maybe the fact that they were Christian isn't important at all
It's only important in that part of Nazi reasoning was based on Christian anti-Semitism, and that AE's argument was that they were atheists.


Well let's put it to the test, shall we?

Contention 1: Islam is just Atheism in a funny costume.  The inherent hatred of Christ is alive in both groups.
Contention 2: The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

If these are both true, the Atheist community would be steadfast in its support of Palestine and highly critical of western support of Israel.

Funny, that's exactly what we see, eh?

"Go amongst those called Christians, for there you will always be welcome"  The Quran.  Now, if they were all atheists, why would they be directed to go amongst them?  Come to that, why would Muslims say "Allah Akhbar" which means "God is great"?

And therein lies the beauty of the whole arrangement.  Atheists wish to destroy christianity by driving people from it.  What better way to alienate people from a faith by creating a new group of violent primitive crazies and then declaring them to be related?  It's a classic example of a false-flag operation.

That has to be the stupidest pile of shite I've ever read.  Can you prove this?  Of course you can't, BECAUSE THERE IS NO FUCKING EVIDENCE OF THIS WHATSOEVER.

In fact, I'd like to hear your evidence, come on, cite some sources, show some proof or have a big cup of STFU.

No, no.  Think of the brilliance of this.  Atheists came up with the Muslim faith hundreds of years before Christianity was founded just to destroy Christianity.  Why, it's just downright diabolical.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: davedan on February 25, 2013, 06:56:54 pm
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Star Cluster on February 25, 2013, 07:06:46 pm
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

Yeah, you're right.  I was thinking something else.  Brain-fart.  Give me 40 lashes.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: m52nickerson on February 25, 2013, 08:17:55 pm
Well let's put it to the test, shall we?

Contention 1: Islam is just Atheism in a funny costume.  The inherent hatred of Christ is alive in both groups.
Contention 2: The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

If these are both true, the Atheist community would be steadfast in its support of Palestine and highly critical of western support of Israel.

Funny, that's exactly what we see, eh?

Contention 1: Shows you don't have any idea what you are talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam)

Contention 2: Add more evidence to the fact that you don't know what you are talking about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler)

It seems these show you have no idea about what you are talking about...you're ignorant.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: davedan on February 25, 2013, 08:49:55 pm
This is Swiftian in its brilliance. I want in.

Did you know that the Cannanites were Atheists as well? Ba'al was actually a god of nothing. Moloch was a god of abortion. That's why it was ok for the Israelites to fuck their shit up. Also the Amelkites had more partner swapping than Bonobos which is why it is ok to eradicate them.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 09:16:32 pm
This is Swiftian in its brilliance. I want in.

Did you know that the Cannanites were Atheists as well? Ba'al was actually a god of nothing. Moloch was a god of abortion. That's why it was ok for the Israelites to fuck their shit up. Also the Amelkites had more partner swapping than Bonobos which is why it is ok to eradicate them.
Satan was an atheist, which makes his war against no one during Armageddon all the more befuddling.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 25, 2013, 09:19:16 pm
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: davedan on February 25, 2013, 09:37:24 pm
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: dpareja on February 25, 2013, 09:56:29 pm
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 25, 2013, 10:16:04 pm
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/496/778/316.gif)

Thanks a lot, atheists.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: rookie on February 25, 2013, 10:25:56 pm

And therein lies the beauty of the whole arrangement.  Atheists wish to destroy christianity by driving people from it.  What better way to alienate people from a faith by creating a new group of violent primitive crazies and then declaring them to be related?  It's a classic example of a false-flag operation.

Who wishes to destroy Christianity by driving people from it? Give names. Because most atheists I know don't care who you pray to, as long as you don't try to convert us. A good chunk of atheists don't hate Jesus of Nazareth any more than they hate Vishnu or Odin. A huge chunk of that good chunk don't even hate most followers of Jesus of Nazareth. The problem lies in that small minority of followers of Jesus of Nazareth who believe his words give them an excuse to be assholes.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: JohnE on February 25, 2013, 11:00:52 pm
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 26, 2013, 12:25:40 am
This thread is kinda boring without Mr. Troll, no?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: ironbite on February 26, 2013, 12:51:45 am
Well, unlike us, he does work for a living.

Ironbite-btw following this from work was a stitch and a half.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 26, 2013, 01:06:47 am
Thinking of the title...

No, instead of self-censoring, I think atheists should crack up all the censors.  Ya know, like Tiny Toons!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: ironbite on February 26, 2013, 01:10:49 am
Yeah but without censors, how will I cense?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Nightangel8212 on February 26, 2013, 01:20:49 am
I also love the wording of the OP... Doesn't censoring imply depriving others of knowledge? Kinda like how the Christians want to burn books they don't agree with?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: StallChaser on February 26, 2013, 01:34:54 am
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!

Of course, but it goes deeper.  Atheists prophesized Christianity before it even existed and set up obstacles ahead of time.  The prophesies had to come from somewhere -- God -- which makes the God of atheism the true god (until, upon being discovered, he disappeared in a puff of logic).  Our troll is really an atheist trying to undermine the true religion, which is also why he projects so many of his own opinions and beliefs onto atheists...
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: ironbite on February 26, 2013, 01:57:03 am
My gods...the rabbit hole goes deep!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 26, 2013, 05:23:11 am
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!

Of course, but it goes deeper.  Atheists prophesized Christianity before it even existed and set up obstacles ahead of time.  The prophesies had to come from somewhere -- God -- which makes the God of atheism the true god (until, upon being discovered, he disappeared in a puff of logic).  Our troll is really an atheist trying to undermine the true religion, which is also why he projects so many of his own opinions and beliefs onto atheists...

Is that James I of Scotland?  It would show that they went back forth through time!

Truly this is an epic plot!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 26, 2013, 07:56:52 am
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!

Of course, but it goes deeper.  Atheists prophesized Christianity before it even existed and set up obstacles ahead of time.  The prophesies had to come from somewhere -- God -- which makes the God of atheism the true god (until, upon being discovered, he disappeared in a puff of logic).  Our troll is really an atheist trying to undermine the true religion, which is also why he projects so many of his own opinions and beliefs onto atheists...

Is that James I of Scotland?  It would show that they went back forth through time!

Truly this is an epic plot!

Hey guys, can I join the quote pyramid? :D
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Saturn500 on February 26, 2013, 08:14:18 am
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!

Of course, but it goes deeper.  Atheists prophesized Christianity before it even existed and set up obstacles ahead of time.  The prophesies had to come from somewhere -- God -- which makes the God of atheism the true god (until, upon being discovered, he disappeared in a puff of logic).  Our troll is really an atheist trying to undermine the true religion, which is also why he projects so many of his own opinions and beliefs onto atheists...

Is that James I of Scotland?  It would show that they went back forth through time!

Truly this is an epic plot!

Hey guys, can I join the quote pyramid? :D
I wanna join in, too!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rime on February 26, 2013, 08:27:06 am
And therein lies the beauty of the whole arrangement.  Atheists wish to destroy christianity by driving people from it.  What better way to alienate people from a faith by creating a new group of violent primitive crazies and then declaring them to be related?  It's a classic example of a false-flag operation.

All that needs to be done to drive people away from Christianity is to allow people like yourself to continue showing us that you resemble more the Pharisees who had Jesus put up for that extreme piercing act about 2000 years ago than that crazy preacher who dared to forgive the unwashed heathens because a bunch of self-absorbed old men turned a perspective on book of wisdom into an elitist social club.

And while you're at it, do some reading on Abrahamic religion before making a statement like that above.  You could make The Daily Mirror look as credible as the Encyclopedia Britannica with that kind of ignorance.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 26, 2013, 09:01:59 am
My gods...the rabbit hole goes deep!
My what goes where now?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 26, 2013, 09:07:10 am
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!

Of course, but it goes deeper.  Atheists prophesized Christianity before it even existed and set up obstacles ahead of time.  The prophesies had to come from somewhere -- God -- which makes the God of atheism the true god (until, upon being discovered, he disappeared in a puff of logic).  Our troll is really an atheist trying to undermine the true religion, which is also why he projects so many of his own opinions and beliefs onto atheists...

Is that James I of Scotland?  It would show that they went back forth through time!

Truly this is an epic plot!

Hey guys, can I join the quote pyramid? :D
I wanna join in, too!


Only if you bring chocolate.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 26, 2013, 11:33:30 am
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!

Of course, but it goes deeper.  Atheists prophesized Christianity before it even existed and set up obstacles ahead of time.  The prophesies had to come from somewhere -- God -- which makes the God of atheism the true god (until, upon being discovered, he disappeared in a puff of logic).  Our troll is really an atheist trying to undermine the true religion, which is also why he projects so many of his own opinions and beliefs onto atheists...

Is that James I of Scotland?  It would show that they went back forth through time!

Truly this is an epic plot!

Hey guys, can I join the quote pyramid? :D
I wanna join in, too!


Only if you bring chocolate.
Yo dawg, I heard you like quotes, so we put quotes in your quotes so you can read while you read.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Askold on February 26, 2013, 12:03:08 pm
This is for all of you, but especially for Rabbit:

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_bN9se-ul_aE/SsfH3bSRbhI/AAAAAAAACAA/HUoMTwFcjh0/s400/graham_chapman_stop_that_silly.jpg)
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Cataclysm on February 26, 2013, 12:12:09 pm
or maybe the fact that they were Christian isn't important at all
It's only important in that part of Nazi reasoning was based on Christian anti-Semitism, and that AE's argument was that they were atheists.

Well let's put it to the test, shall we?

Contention 1: Islam is just Atheism in a funny costume.  The inherent hatred of Christ is alive in both groups.
Contention 2: The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

If these are both true, the Atheist community would be steadfast in its support of Palestine and highly critical of western support of Israel.

Funny, that's exactly what we see, eh?

Yup, just ask DogmasDemise
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 26, 2013, 12:24:43 pm
Bravo, askold.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 26, 2013, 04:21:41 pm
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!

Of course, but it goes deeper.  Atheists prophesized Christianity before it even existed and set up obstacles ahead of time.  The prophesies had to come from somewhere -- God -- which makes the God of atheism the true god (until, upon being discovered, he disappeared in a puff of logic).  Our troll is really an atheist trying to undermine the true religion, which is also why he projects so many of his own opinions and beliefs onto atheists...

Is that James I of Scotland?  It would show that they went back forth through time!

Truly this is an epic plot!

Hey guys, can I join the quote pyramid? :D
I wanna join in, too!


Only if you bring chocolate.
Yo dawg, I heard you like quotes, so we put quotes in your quotes so you can read while you read.

Seeing as we're all here together, shall we have a sing-a-long?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Saturn500 on February 26, 2013, 04:31:17 pm
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!

Of course, but it goes deeper.  Atheists prophesized Christianity before it even existed and set up obstacles ahead of time.  The prophesies had to come from somewhere -- God -- which makes the God of atheism the true god (until, upon being discovered, he disappeared in a puff of logic).  Our troll is really an atheist trying to undermine the true religion, which is also why he projects so many of his own opinions and beliefs onto atheists...

Is that James I of Scotland?  It would show that they went back forth through time!

Truly this is an epic plot!

Hey guys, can I join the quote pyramid? :D
I wanna join in, too!


Only if you bring chocolate.
Yo dawg, I heard you like quotes, so we put quotes in your quotes so you can read while you read.

Seeing as we're all here together, shall we have a sing-a-long?
Oh, let's gather round the campfire and sing our campfire song...
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 26, 2013, 04:36:49 pm
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!

Of course, but it goes deeper.  Atheists prophesized Christianity before it even existed and set up obstacles ahead of time.  The prophesies had to come from somewhere -- God -- which makes the God of atheism the true god (until, upon being discovered, he disappeared in a puff of logic).  Our troll is really an atheist trying to undermine the true religion, which is also why he projects so many of his own opinions and beliefs onto atheists...

Is that James I of Scotland?  It would show that they went back forth through time!

Truly this is an epic plot!

Hey guys, can I join the quote pyramid? :D
I wanna join in, too!


Only if you bring chocolate.
Yo dawg, I heard you like quotes, so we put quotes in your quotes so you can read while you read.

Seeing as we're all here together, shall we have a sing-a-long?
Oh, let's gather round the campfire and sing our campfire song...

All together now....
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Saturn500 on February 26, 2013, 04:42:22 pm
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!

Of course, but it goes deeper.  Atheists prophesized Christianity before it even existed and set up obstacles ahead of time.  The prophesies had to come from somewhere -- God -- which makes the God of atheism the true god (until, upon being discovered, he disappeared in a puff of logic).  Our troll is really an atheist trying to undermine the true religion, which is also why he projects so many of his own opinions and beliefs onto atheists...

Is that James I of Scotland?  It would show that they went back forth through time!

Truly this is an epic plot!

Hey guys, can I join the quote pyramid? :D
I wanna join in, too!


Only if you bring chocolate.
Yo dawg, I heard you like quotes, so we put quotes in your quotes so you can read while you read.

Seeing as we're all here together, shall we have a sing-a-long?
Oh, let's gather round the campfire and sing our campfire song...

All together now....
Our C-A-M-P-F-I-R-E S-O-N-G song. And if you don't think we can sing it faster then you're wrong.

But it'll help if...you just sing...along...
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: RinellaWasHere on February 26, 2013, 04:44:46 pm
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!

Of course, but it goes deeper.  Atheists prophesized Christianity before it even existed and set up obstacles ahead of time.  The prophesies had to come from somewhere -- God -- which makes the God of atheism the true god (until, upon being discovered, he disappeared in a puff of logic).  Our troll is really an atheist trying to undermine the true religion, which is also why he projects so many of his own opinions and beliefs onto atheists...

Is that James I of Scotland?  It would show that they went back forth through time!

Truly this is an epic plot!

Hey guys, can I join the quote pyramid? :D
I wanna join in, too!


Only if you bring chocolate.
Yo dawg, I heard you like quotes, so we put quotes in your quotes so you can read while you read.

Seeing as we're all here together, shall we have a sing-a-long?
Oh, let's gather round the campfire and sing our campfire song...

All together now....
Our C-A-M-P-F-I-R-E S-O-N-G song. And if you don't think we can sing it faster then you're wrong.

But it'll help if...you just sing...along...

BUMMM BUMM BUMMMM....
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 26, 2013, 04:45:21 pm
Um except Islam started 600 years after Christianity was started.

So they created it and then didn't bring it into being until the time was right!

The plot thickens!

I think you're onto something scotsgit. I think they probably did the same thing with Judaism. After all it's only aim is to distract people from the one true faith of Anglicanism. All hail Henry the VIII. Clearly the greatest of the prophets and the seal of the prophets.

Don't forget James VI & I.
It gets even better! Since everything that's not Christianity is atheism, and atheism is really satan worship, and satan worship acknowledges God and Jesus as it rebels against them...

Everyone is a Christian!

Of course, but it goes deeper.  Atheists prophesized Christianity before it even existed and set up obstacles ahead of time.  The prophesies had to come from somewhere -- God -- which makes the God of atheism the true god (until, upon being discovered, he disappeared in a puff of logic).  Our troll is really an atheist trying to undermine the true religion, which is also why he projects so many of his own opinions and beliefs onto atheists...

Is that James I of Scotland?  It would show that they went back forth through time!

Truly this is an epic plot!

Hey guys, can I join the quote pyramid? :D
I wanna join in, too!


Only if you bring chocolate.
Yo dawg, I heard you like quotes, so we put quotes in your quotes so you can read while you read.

Seeing as we're all here together, shall we have a sing-a-long?
Oh, let's gather round the campfire and sing our campfire song...

All together now....
Our C-A-M-P-F-I-R-E S-O-N-G song. And if you don't think we can sing it faster then you're wrong.

But it'll help if...you just sing...along...

I thought we'd have a chorus of "The tracks on the Land Raider"?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 26, 2013, 08:19:18 pm
The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

lol, atheist Jew here. Also, a lot of Nazis - in fact, I'd say most of them - were Christian.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 26, 2013, 11:39:07 pm
The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

lol, atheist Jew here. Also, a lot of Nazis - in fact, I'd say most of them - were Christian.

Well obviously you're just a self-hating Jew and don't count! /sarcasm
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Thejebusfire on February 27, 2013, 02:23:14 am
The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

lol, atheist Jew here. Also, a lot of Nazis - in fact, I'd say most of them - were Christian.

Well obviously you're just a self-hating Jew and don't count! /sarcasm

Nothin' I hate worse than a Jew who doesn't appreciate her own rich heritage.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rime on February 27, 2013, 07:10:54 am
The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

lol, atheist Jew here. Also, a lot of Nazis - in fact, I'd say most of them - were Christian.

The Nazi party was given practically unanimous power over Germany in 1933 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_March_1933).  Who voted him into power?  Atheists?  It's pretty interesting to read some of his speeches (http://www.somareview.com/mostfamouschristian.cfm).  I don't think a single atheist would elect someone who used that much Jesus speak.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Atheism Exposed on February 27, 2013, 07:35:58 am
The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

lol, atheist Jew here. Also, a lot of Nazis - in fact, I'd say most of them - were Christian.

The Nazi party was given practically unanimous power over Germany in 1933 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_March_1933).  Who voted him into power?  Atheists?  It's pretty interesting to read some of his speeches (http://www.somareview.com/mostfamouschristian.cfm).  I don't think a single atheist would elect someone who used that much Jesus speak.

Unskeptical skepticism always make me smile.  It is in essence no different from things that were (and I guess still are) being said about the current US president.  Professing a belief in christianity to aid your chances of election and actually being a christian are not the same thing. 

You'd be wise not to take the words of politicians at face value.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Katsuro on February 27, 2013, 08:03:44 am
(http://www.flyingchariotministries.com/Hitler%20and%20church%202.jpg)

(http://www.ushmm.org/lcmedia/photo/wlc/image/08/08024.jpg)

(http://alamoministries.com/content/english/Antichrist/nazigallery/23nazibrownshirtschurch.jpg)

(http://emperor.vwh.net/images/ustashe.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_78ZrJuZ3q5g/TB0htNTA7aI/AAAAAAAAC5M/Z6YIP7qWcjc/s1600/hitler_cardinal-nazis.jpg)

(http://i240.photobucket.com/albums/ff279/CasesCorner/Nazi-Salute_Vatican.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-b3brZ1E4F0E/T7T9pw44ZkI/AAAAAAAAE4Y/bx4f7SHjKxE/s1600/nazi+attack+church.png)

(http://coelsblog.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/hitler-with-muller.jpg)
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Katsuro on February 27, 2013, 08:07:50 am
The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

lol, atheist Jew here. Also, a lot of Nazis - in fact, I'd say most of them - were Christian.

The Nazi party was given practically unanimous power over Germany in 1933 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_March_1933).  Who voted him into power?  Atheists?  It's pretty interesting to read some of his speeches (http://www.somareview.com/mostfamouschristian.cfm).  I don't think a single atheist would elect someone who used that much Jesus speak.

Unskeptical skepticism always make me smile.  It is in essence no different from things that were (and I guess still are) being said about the current US president.  Professing a belief in christianity to aid your chances of election and actually being a christian are not the same thing. 

You'd be wise not to take the words of politicians at face value.

That in no way addresses Wykked Wytch's point. The point was that atheists would not vote for someone who invoked religion so much, so the people who supported him and voted for him would have been Christians not atheists; basically the people who made him powerful were Christians (mostly white, protestant males if I remember my History degree correctly). Whether or not Hitler genuinely considered himself a Christian or not is irrelvent to the  argument Wykked Wytch was making.

And using religion and/or atheism to explain the horrors of Nazi Germany and how the Nazis got into power is such a massive over simplification of the complicated series of events, myths, ideologies, and economic and political climates involved that doing so, regardless of who you are, makes you look like a damned fool.

Also, not entirely relevant but I feel worth noting anyway, is many of the people who helped Nazis escape to South America were Vatican cardinals and officials.

Edit: To be clear, by "myths" I mean things like the "Stab in the Back" - the belief that Germany and her military forces were so superior to their enemys' she couldn't possibly have lost the first world war unless she'd been betrayed by either Jews, the the political leaders of the Weimar Republic or both.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rime on February 27, 2013, 08:11:15 am
Unskeptical skepticism always make me smile.  It is in essence no different from things that were (and I guess still are) being said about the current US president.  Professing a belief in christianity to aid your chances of election and actually being a christian are not the same thing. 

You'd be wise not to take the words of politicians at face value.

Although you quoted me, used proper sentence structure and grammar, you actually failed to address anything I said.  It was the Christian majority who voted Hitler into power.  It was the Christian majority who blamed the Jews because the Jews managed to stay affluent while many around them struggled in poverty, and it was the Christian majority who gleefully seized their properties, trashed their businesses and loaded them up on trains and sent them off to camps when they could no longer deport them.

EDIT:  I noticed that Katsuro also said the same thing.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 27, 2013, 08:15:21 am
Even just skimming over this thread, I can actually feel my brain cells dying. I also have a sneaking suspicion that even a retarded monkey would have the same reaction.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 27, 2013, 10:28:50 am
The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

lol, atheist Jew here. Also, a lot of Nazis - in fact, I'd say most of them - were Christian.

Well obviously you're just a self-hating Jew and don't count! /sarcasm

Nothin' I hate worse than a Jew who doesn't appreciate her own rich heritage.
Come on, Mordecai. Let's get her!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Sleepy on February 27, 2013, 10:43:20 am
Even just skimming over this thread, I can actually feel my brain cells dying. I also have a sneaking suspicion that even a retarded monkey would have the same reaction.

Me too, though I personally had more brain cells die in the thread against heliocentrism. I mean, that shit was disputed plenty of centuries ago.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 27, 2013, 10:43:50 am
Unskeptical skepticism always make me smile.  It is in essence no different from things that were (and I guess still are) being said about the current US president.  Professing a belief in christianity to aid your chances of election and actually being a christian are not the same thing. 

You'd be wise not to take the words of politicians at face value.

Although you quoted me, used proper sentence structure and grammar, you actually failed to address anything I said.  It was the Christian majority who voted Hitler into power.  It was the Christian majority who blamed the Jews because the Jews managed to stay affluent while many around them struggled in poverty, and it was the Christian majority who gleefully seized their properties, trashed their businesses and loaded them up on trains and sent them off to camps when they could no longer deport them.

EDIT:  I noticed that Katsuro also said the same thing.
And the Nazis' pogrom against the Jews had some Christian influences too. For example, the Church prohibited intermarrying between Jews and Christians and actually forced Jews to wear badges to distinguish themselves from non-Jews:

(http://rationalrevolution.net/images/jewishbadge.jpg)

"In several provinces, a difference in vestment distinguishes the Jews or the Saracens from the Christians; but in others, the confusion has reached such proportions that a difference can no longer be perceived.

Hence, at times it has occurred that Christians have had sexual intercourse in error with Jewish or Saracen women and Jews or Saracens with Christian women. That the crime of such a sinful mixture shall no longer find evasion or cover under the pretext of error, we order that they [Jews and Saracens] of both sexes, in all Christian lands and at all times, shall be publicly differentiated from the rest of the population by the quality of their garment, especially since this is ordained by Moses."
-Fourth Lateran Council, 1215

Martin Luther was virulently anti-Jewish and wrote a book called On the Jews and Their Lies. He outlined a plan of what should be done to the Jews--maybe some of this will sound familiar:

"First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly ­ and I myself was unaware of it ­ will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews, existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very well know.

Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to them that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they are living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God.

Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them[...]

Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. For they have justly forfeited the right to such an office by holding the poor Jews captive with the saying of Moses (Deuteronomy 17:10) in which he commands them to obey their teachers on penalty of death, although Moses clearly adds: "what they teach you in accord with the law of the Lord." Those villains ignore that. They wantonly employ the poor people's obedience contrary to the law of the Lord and infuse them with this poison, cursing, and blasphemy. In the same way the pope also held us captive with the declaration in Matthew (16:18), "You are Peter," etc, inducing us to believe all the lies and deceptions that issued from his devilish mind. He did not teach in accord with the word of God, and therefore he forfeited the right to teach.

Fifth, I advise that safe­conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let they stay at home[...]

Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping. The reason for such a measure is that, as said above, they have no other means of earning a livelihood than usury, and by it they have stolen and robbed from us all they possess. Such money should now be used in no other way than the following: Whenever a Jew is sincerely converted, he should be handed one hundred, two hundred, or three hundred florins, as personal circumstances may suggest. With this he could set himself up in some occupation for the support of his poor wife and children, and the maintenance of the old or feeble. For such evil gains are cursed if they are not put to use with God's blessing in a good and worthy cause.

Seventh, I commend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, as was imposed on the children of Adam (Gen 3:19). For it is not fitting that they should let us accursed Goyim toil in the sweat of our faces while they, the holy people, idle away their time behind the stove, feasting and farting, and on top of all, boasting blasphemously of their lordship over the Christians by means of our sweat. No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants."


This is what Dr. E. H. Schulz and Dr. R. Frercks had to say in Why the Aryan Law? (http://www.calvin.edu/academic/cas/gpa/arier.htm) (1934):

Martin Luther wrote this of the Jews in his book "The Jews and their Lies": "They hold we Christians captive in our own land. They have seized our goods by their cursed usury, they mock and insult us because we work. They are our lords, and we and our goods belong to them." If in the coming days the Jewish race is driven out of the non-Jewish world, it will have at least this consolation: It has made clear to them for all time the value of maintaining the purity of race and blood in clear, understandable and unforgettable ways.

National Socialist racial legislation has reduced the influence of Jewry in all professions, and above all excluded them from the leading offices of the nation. That is an important step in the relationship between Germans and Jews, but one cannot ignore the fact that we have not yet fully eliminated the influence of the Jewish foreign body in German national life.


So racial and religious hatred of Jews, stemming from Medieval Christian anti-Semitism.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Art Vandelay on February 27, 2013, 10:51:21 am
Even just skimming over this thread, I can actually feel my brain cells dying. I also have a sneaking suspicion that even a retarded monkey would have the same reaction.

Me too, though I personally had more brain cells die in the thread against heliocentrism. I mean, that shit was disputed plenty of centuries ago.

That thread isn't so much a few brain cells giving up as a full lobotomy.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: kefkaownsall on February 27, 2013, 11:34:48 am
It's hard to say Hitlers beliefs but either way for examples of evil Christians.  Look at the Croats and Serbians
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 27, 2013, 12:15:40 pm
It's hard to say Hitlers beliefs but either way for examples of evil Christians.  Look at the Croats and Serbians

Or PIRA and UVF. 

Come to that, the War of the Three Kingdoms (sometimes called the English Civil War) doesn't show Christianity in a good light, particularly events such as the Siege of Drogheda or the Massacre at Philiphaugh.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: starseeker on February 27, 2013, 03:49:20 pm
Even just skimming over this thread, I can actually feel my brain cells dying. I also have a sneaking suspicion that even a retarded monkey would have the same reaction.

Me too, though I personally had more brain cells die in the thread against heliocentrism. I mean, that shit was disputed plenty of centuries ago.

That thread isn't so much a few brain cells giving up as a full lobotomy.

I shouldn't be curious enough to ask if that thread still exists should I?

Edit: found it, this should be fun.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Osama bin Bambi on February 27, 2013, 05:45:59 pm
Unskeptical skepticism always make me smile.  It is in essence no different from things that were (and I guess still are) being said about the current US president.  Professing a belief in christianity to aid your chances of election and actually being a christian are not the same thing. 

You'd be wise not to take the words of politicians at face value.

Although you quoted me, used proper sentence structure and grammar, you actually failed to address anything I said.  It was the Christian majority who voted Hitler into power.  It was the Christian majority who blamed the Jews because the Jews managed to stay affluent while many around them struggled in poverty, and it was the Christian majority who gleefully seized their properties, trashed their businesses and loaded them up on trains and sent them off to camps when they could no longer deport them.

EDIT:  I noticed that Katsuro also said the same thing.

Also note that the majority of the anti-Semitic canards the Nazis leveled against Jews in propaganda were not new ideas, but rather offshoots or repetitions of the same old anti-Semitic beliefs that had been echoing in Europe for hundreds and hundreds of years. They were also often inspired by or at least reinforced by Christianity. For example, many thought that the Jews killed Jesus and thus they were vilified as greedy and untrustworthy. Many Christian nations throughout their history expelled Jews from the country, limited where they were allowed to live, forced them to convert to Christianity, subjected them to pogroms, and barred them from certain jobs (with the general exception of money-lending, since the Catholic sin of "usury" was considered acceptable for Jews). The policies of Nazi Germany were simply a revival of that. It was in no way fueled by atheism.

EDIT: I started this earlier but only finished it now, and then Rabbit beat me to it, the bastard. :P
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 27, 2013, 06:46:56 pm
Unskeptical skepticism always make me smile.  It is in essence no different from things that were (and I guess still are) being said about the current US president.  Professing a belief in christianity to aid your chances of election and actually being a christian are not the same thing. 

You'd be wise not to take the words of politicians at face value.

Although you quoted me, used proper sentence structure and grammar, you actually failed to address anything I said.  It was the Christian majority who voted Hitler into power.  It was the Christian majority who blamed the Jews because the Jews managed to stay affluent while many around them struggled in poverty, and it was the Christian majority who gleefully seized their properties, trashed their businesses and loaded them up on trains and sent them off to camps when they could no longer deport them.

EDIT:  I noticed that Katsuro also said the same thing.
EDIT: I started this earlier but only finished it now, and then Rabbit beat me to it, the bastard. :P
*bows*
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Captain Jack Harkness on February 28, 2013, 12:50:05 am
The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

lol, atheist Jew here. Also, a lot of Nazis - in fact, I'd say most of them - were Christian.

The Nazi party was given practically unanimous power over Germany in 1933 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_federal_election,_March_1933).  Who voted him into power?  Atheists?  It's pretty interesting to read some of his speeches (http://www.somareview.com/mostfamouschristian.cfm).  I don't think a single atheist would elect someone who used that much Jesus speak.

Unskeptical skepticism always make me smile.  It is in essence no different from things that were (and I guess still are) being said about the current US president.  Professing a belief in christianity to aid your chances of election and actually being a christian are not the same thing. 

You'd be wise not to take the words of politicians at face value.

I would be inclined to agree with you, but you're invoking the "No True Scotsman" fallacy I think.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Meshakhad on February 28, 2013, 02:05:40 am
I figured out Hitler's religion long ago.

He worshiped himself.

His beliefs may have been drawn from other sources, but I do not believe that Hitler believed in any power higher than himself. I'd say the same about Saddam Hussein, the Kim dynasty, and possibly even Osama bin Laden.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Material Defender on February 28, 2013, 09:44:17 am
Unskeptical skepticism always make me smile.  It is in essence no different from things that were (and I guess still are) being said about the current US president.  Professing a belief in christianity to aid your chances of election and actually being a christian are not the same thing. 

You'd be wise not to take the words of politicians at face value.

Although you quoted me, used proper sentence structure and grammar, you actually failed to address anything I said.  It was the Christian majority who voted Hitler into power.  It was the Christian majority who blamed the Jews because the Jews managed to stay affluent while many around them struggled in poverty, and it was the Christian majority who gleefully seized their properties, trashed their businesses and loaded them up on trains and sent them off to camps when they could no longer deport them.

EDIT:  I noticed that Katsuro also said the same thing.

The Nazi party never had a majority in anything. They got 33% of the vote in the general election, then filled the German (Whatever the Republic uses) with armed stormtroopers as their members, put their platform forwards to dissolve the [thing], and intimidated them into doing what they wanted. It looks like a majority because it was proportionate representation and they had the largest proportion at the time for an individual party.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rime on February 28, 2013, 11:00:15 am
I guess my point isn't all that valid, but there are plenty of others who made excellent points. :)
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Material Defender on February 28, 2013, 11:25:54 am
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.

I mean seriously, out of people to call atheist... at least get it right? Try Stalin or something. Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 28, 2013, 11:33:04 am
I mean seriously, out of people to call atheist... at least get it right? Try Stalin or something. Jesus Christ.

I seriously doubt he was an atheist. ;)
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Material Defender on February 28, 2013, 11:40:53 am
I mean seriously, out of people to call atheist... at least get it right? Try Stalin or something. Jesus Christ.

I seriously doubt he was an atheist. ;)

As far as I can tell, he was an anti-theist the way he brought his hammer down on the Orthodox churches in the Soviet Union. Though he supposedly respected/feared his mom enough to spare the Georgian Orthodox Church since she was highly religious. Though that could be said he was part of that Church, but his exact religion was something I never found in studying him.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rime on February 28, 2013, 11:51:55 am
Material Defender, I wasn't actually trying to single out Hitler, but the majority people who voted the Nazi Party into power were Christian, and it wasn't the stormtroopers who vandalized shops and accused their owners who were suspected of having Hebrew relatives.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Material Defender on February 28, 2013, 11:54:25 am
Material Defender, I wasn't actually trying to single out Hitler, but the majority people who voted the Nazi Party into power were Christian, and it wasn't the stormtroopers who vandalized shops and accused their owners who were suspected of having Hebrew relatives.

Oh, I know that.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 28, 2013, 01:24:34 pm
I mean seriously, out of people to call atheist... at least get it right? Try Stalin or something. Jesus Christ.

I seriously doubt he was an atheist. ;)

As far as I can tell, he was an anti-theist the way he brought his hammer down on the Orthodox churches in the Soviet Union. Though he supposedly respected/feared his mom enough to spare the Georgian Orthodox Church since she was highly religious. Though that could be said he was part of that Church, but his exact religion was something I never found in studying him.
He also formed alliances with Churches when it suited him, but that's all. I think he did have a very religious upbringing, so maybe that's something he hated growing up. Plus the Russian Orthodox Church was linked with the Tsarist government, so there were probably political reasons too.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 28, 2013, 01:29:12 pm
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.
Rudolf Hess was part of the Thule Society--an anti-Semitic occultist group. I doubt Hitler dabbled in the occult. Interestingly, there was only one member of the Nazi high command who was excommunicated by the Catholic Church: Joseph Goebbels, for marrying a Protestant. I mean, gotta draw the line somewhere.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: R. U. Sirius on February 28, 2013, 02:11:56 pm
I mean seriously, out of people to call atheist... at least get it right? Try Stalin or something. Jesus Christ.

I seriously doubt he was an atheist. ;)

As far as I can tell, he was an anti-theist the way he brought his hammer down on the Orthodox churches in the Soviet Union. Though he supposedly respected/feared his mom enough to spare the Georgian Orthodox Church since she was highly religious. Though that could be said he was part of that Church, but his exact religion was something I never found in studying him.

I was referring to Jesus.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: SpaceProg on February 28, 2013, 02:14:07 pm
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.
Rudolf Hess was part of the Thule Society--an anti-Semitic occultist group. I doubt Hitler dabbled in the occult. Interestingly, there was only one member of the Nazi high command who was excommunicated by the Catholic Church: Joseph Goebbels, for marrying a Protestant. I mean, gotta draw the line somewhere.
I think Himmler was a bit on the occult side too, if I remember correctly.  Hitler just let them believe what they wanted as long as they didn't bother him with their weirdness.  If I remember correctly, anyway.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 28, 2013, 02:28:36 pm
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.
Rudolf Hess was part of the Thule Society--an anti-Semitic occultist group. I doubt Hitler dabbled in the occult. Interestingly, there was only one member of the Nazi high command who was excommunicated by the Catholic Church: Joseph Goebbels, for marrying a Protestant. I mean, gotta draw the line somewhere.
I think Himmler was a bit on the occult side too, if I remember correctly.  Hitler just let them believe what they wanted as long as they didn't bother him with their weirdness.  If I remember correctly, anyway.
You're probably right about Himmler too. Actually I had the feeling something slipped my mind when I typed that.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Material Defender on February 28, 2013, 04:36:15 pm
I mean seriously, out of people to call atheist... at least get it right? Try Stalin or something. Jesus Christ.

I seriously doubt he was an atheist. ;)

As far as I can tell, he was an anti-theist the way he brought his hammer down on the Orthodox churches in the Soviet Union. Though he supposedly respected/feared his mom enough to spare the Georgian Orthodox Church since she was highly religious. Though that could be said he was part of that Church, but his exact religion was something I never found in studying him.

I was referring to Jesus.

Oh lol.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on February 28, 2013, 05:29:26 pm
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.
Rudolf Hess was part of the Thule Society--an anti-Semitic occultist group. I doubt Hitler dabbled in the occult. Interestingly, there was only one member of the Nazi high command who was excommunicated by the Catholic Church: Joseph Goebbels, for marrying a Protestant. I mean, gotta draw the line somewhere.
I think Himmler was a bit on the occult side too, if I remember correctly.  Hitler just let them believe what they wanted as long as they didn't bother him with their weirdness.  If I remember correctly, anyway.
You're probably right about Himmler too. Actually I had the feeling something slipped my mind when I typed that.

Himmler had some strange ideas about a sort of new-religion he saw which revolved around a mish-mash of King Arthur, Wagnerian opera, Hitler's ideas about the Aryan Race and a few other weird ideas.  One of the castles that was under his command was to house the bodies of the first 12 SS members to be killed in combat.  He claimed that it was a 'soldier's religion', which is ironic when you consider he never once heard a shot fired in anger.

It speaks volumes that even Hitler thought these ideas were batshit insane.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Auggziliary on February 28, 2013, 09:23:47 pm
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.
Rudolf Hess was part of the Thule Society--an anti-Semitic occultist group. I doubt Hitler dabbled in the occult. Interestingly, there was only one member of the Nazi high command who was excommunicated by the Catholic Church: Joseph Goebbels, for marrying a Protestant. I mean, gotta draw the line somewhere.
I think Himmler was a bit on the occult side too, if I remember correctly.  Hitler just let them believe what they wanted as long as they didn't bother him with their weirdness.  If I remember correctly, anyway.
You're probably right about Himmler too. Actually I had the feeling something slipped my mind when I typed that.

Himmler had some strange ideas about a sort of new-religion he saw which revolved around a mish-mash of King Arthur, Wagnerian opera, Hitler's ideas about the Aryan Race and a few other weird ideas.  One of the castles that was under his command was to house the bodies of the first 12 SS members to be killed in combat.  He claimed that it was a 'soldier's religion', which is ironic when you consider he never once heard a shot fired in anger.

It speaks volumes that even Hitler thought these ideas were batshit insane.

So they are super good? Hitler was super bad after all...
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on February 28, 2013, 09:53:47 pm
Yup! Though all told, Hitler was either Occultist or Christian. Since his cronies had some occult tendencies. Atheist? Nah.
Rudolf Hess was part of the Thule Society--an anti-Semitic occultist group. I doubt Hitler dabbled in the occult. Interestingly, there was only one member of the Nazi high command who was excommunicated by the Catholic Church: Joseph Goebbels, for marrying a Protestant. I mean, gotta draw the line somewhere.
I think Himmler was a bit on the occult side too, if I remember correctly.  Hitler just let them believe what they wanted as long as they didn't bother him with their weirdness.  If I remember correctly, anyway.
You're probably right about Himmler too. Actually I had the feeling something slipped my mind when I typed that.

Himmler had some strange ideas about a sort of new-religion he saw which revolved around a mish-mash of King Arthur, Wagnerian opera, Hitler's ideas about the Aryan Race and a few other weird ideas.  One of the castles that was under his command was to house the bodies of the first 12 SS members to be killed in combat.  He claimed that it was a 'soldier's religion', which is ironic when you consider he never once heard a shot fired in anger.

It speaks volumes that even Hitler thought these ideas were batshit insane.

So they are super good? Hitler was super bad after all...
Yeah but if you read Mein Kampf he just comes off like a total whiner. He's Emo, that's what he is.

(http://eric261.tripod.com/mst3kserenity/emo_hitler.jpg)
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Scotsgit on March 01, 2013, 11:40:42 am
The odd thing was, he would insult the upper classes, particularly the landed gentry and they fucking loved him for it.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: mellenORL on March 04, 2013, 09:17:30 am
Hitler was obsessed with astrology, IIRC.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: rookie on March 04, 2013, 02:56:43 pm
Because sadly I have nothing better to do. I sat down and read this thread from page 1 to 13 right now. We went from talking about the history of the CofE to Hitler. Ladies and gentlemen, we have become the H channel.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Askold on March 04, 2013, 03:21:06 pm
The Hentai channel?

Oh, wait you mean the History channel...

Huge difference.

Welp, since we might as well get started:

(http://9thcivic.com/gallery/albums/post/history_channel_alien_guy_meme_generator_aliens_98f63b.jpg)

Evidence for or against God?


I mean, that movie is such a classic and someone could make the argument that all those people involved were born with the purpose of collaborating on this amazing movie. And Sigourney Weaver, one of the greatest actors ever to grace Hollywood with her presence... And she sure has precence. When she walks into the scene with her long, beautiful legs... Mmmmm... Those legs that seem to go on forever...


Wait, where was I going with this argument?

Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: JohnE on March 04, 2013, 04:04:36 pm
Clearly "god" is a race of 9 foot tall ripped albinos that want us dead. Duh.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Rabbit of Caerbannog on March 05, 2013, 11:24:38 am
Because sadly I have nothing better to do. I sat down and read this thread from page 1 to 13 right now. We went from talking about the history of the CofE to Hitler. Ladies and gentlemen, we have become the H channel.
(http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/mother-of-god-meme.jpg)

EDIT: And what the FUCK does any of this have to do with self-censorship?!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Askold on March 05, 2013, 11:58:54 am
Clearly "god" is a race of 9 foot tall ripped albinos that want us dead. Duh.

That would explain a lot. That is why God in the old testament is so angry. They want us dead, so they made up all those laws and commandments and wanted to make us wipe out ourselves. It also explains why bible has so many inconsistencies, "God" is a whole species of homicidal aliens so they were bound to have some mixups.

Jesus was probably the only decent fellow in the species. Maybe he was so short that the others bullied him so he came to earth to try to help us and maybe make us a bit nicer.

Then we nailed him into a tree.

In fact it could be that albino alien Jesus is the reason why people keep portraying him as a white guy.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: R. U. Sirius on March 05, 2013, 12:22:06 pm
I've actually seen a poster advertising a Jehovah's Witness service that showed Jesus as an albino. White skin and hair, pink eyes, the works.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: JohnE on March 05, 2013, 01:24:48 pm
Clearly "god" is a race of 9 foot tall ripped albinos that want us dead. Duh.

That would explain a lot. That is why God in the old testament is so angry. They want us dead, so they made up all those laws and commandments and wanted to make us wipe out ourselves. It also explains why bible has so many inconsistencies, "God" is a whole species of homicidal aliens so they were bound to have some mixups.

Jesus was probably the only decent fellow in the species. Maybe he was so short that the others bullied him so he came to earth to try to help us and maybe make us a bit nicer.

Then we nailed him into a tree.

In fact it could be that albino alien Jesus is the reason why people keep portraying him as a white guy.
That's actually hinted at in Prometheus. It was about 2,000 years ago that the Engineers decided they didn't like us anymore. Maybe because Jesus was a human-Engineer hybrid sent to teach us not to be such pricks, and we killed him.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Askold on March 05, 2013, 03:28:08 pm
Clearly "god" is a race of 9 foot tall ripped albinos that want us dead. Duh.

That would explain a lot. That is why God in the old testament is so angry. They want us dead, so they made up all those laws and commandments and wanted to make us wipe out ourselves. It also explains why bible has so many inconsistencies, "God" is a whole species of homicidal aliens so they were bound to have some mixups.

Jesus was probably the only decent fellow in the species. Maybe he was so short that the others bullied him so he came to earth to try to help us and maybe make us a bit nicer.

Then we nailed him into a tree.

In fact it could be that albino alien Jesus is the reason why people keep portraying him as a white guy.
That's actually hinted at in Prometheus. It was about 2,000 years ago that the Engineers decided they didn't like us anymore. Maybe because Jesus was a human-Engineer hybrid sent to teach us not to be such pricks, and we killed him.

My God! It all fits!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Stormwarden on March 06, 2013, 03:01:03 am
askold: So, who wants to be high priest of the Cult of the Albino Swissmen?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Askold on March 06, 2013, 03:19:44 am
askold: So, who wants to be high priest of the Cult of the Albino Swissmen?

Didn't we just agree that they are going to kill us all? Why on earth would you want to worship them?

I mean it's not like they are Cthulhu or Nyarlahotep or something.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: R. U. Sirius on March 06, 2013, 08:57:48 am
askold: So, who wants to be high priest of the Cult of the Albino Swissmen?

Didn't we just agree that they are going to kill us all? Why on earth would you want to worship them?

I mean it's not like they are Cthulhu or Nyarlahotep or something.

But they MIGHT be! It never hurts to try! If nothing else, we'll all be conveniently gathered in a single place, so they can kill us first and let us avoid watching the suffering of our loved ones!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: rookie on March 06, 2013, 09:52:46 am

Didn't we just agree that they are going to kill us all? Why on earth would you want to worship them?

I mean it's not like they are Cthulhu or Nyarlahotep or something.

Because if they are indeed the supreme deities of this universe, you'll be glad you're worshiping them. If you're not worshiping them, and they turn out to be supreme deities, they'll send you to Matawan, New Jersey for eternity. You don't want to live in New Jersey for eternity.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: m52nickerson on March 06, 2013, 08:33:10 pm
Religious people and so-called "true-believers" residing in secular countries are always very vocal and very keen to destroy the foundations of that society, I have noticed.

Despite the liberties granted to them magnanimously by secular society, they nevertheless refuse to reciprocate this kindness and instead seek laws and conventions designed to limit the rights of non-believers to live the way they choose.

Religion produces nothing but demands everything, a comparatively TINY minority of fundamentalist think it right that the majority of people in a secular nation conform entirely to an fundamentalist way of doing things, all the while refusing to acknowledge that all of the freedoms they enjoy and abuse stem from the laws and people they hate so much.

An fundamentalist society is an authoritarian horror and a police state, and yet this is what the true-believer movement would have us emulate.  This MUST NOT be allowed to happen.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Stormwarden on March 06, 2013, 08:44:44 pm
Same reason you worship Cthulhu: so you'll be the first to be eaten, and thus not have to suffer long from being in their presence.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: R. U. Sirius on March 06, 2013, 08:45:15 pm
Same reason you worship Cthulhu: so you'll be the first to be eaten, and thus not have to suffer long from being in their presence.

Exactly what I said! Thank you!
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: kiwimac on March 22, 2013, 05:23:51 pm
or maybe the fact that they were Christian isn't important at all
It's only important in that part of Nazi reasoning was based on Christian anti-Semitism, and that AE's argument was that they were atheists.

Well let's put it to the test, shall we?

Contention 1: Islam is just Atheism in a funny costume.  The inherent hatred of Christ is alive in both groups.
Contention 2: The Holocaust was in large part due to the Atheist hatred of Jews and Christians

If these are both true, the Atheist community would be steadfast in its support of Palestine and highly critical of western support of Israel.

Funny, that's exactly what we see, eh?


This is known as a crock of Dung.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: RinellaWasHere on March 22, 2013, 06:47:27 pm
Religious people and so-called "true-believers" residing in secular countries are always very vocal and very keen to destroy the foundations of that society, I have noticed.

Ahem?
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: R. U. Sirius on March 22, 2013, 07:11:10 pm
It's a deliberate turnaround of AE's argument about atheists to expose its absurdity, Rinella, not an actual dig.
Title: Re: The Atheist should self censor.
Post by: Paimun on April 22, 2013, 08:31:44 pm
Despite the liberties granted to them magnanimously by Christian society


http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/04/peruvian-father-accused-of-setting-son-on-fire-because-he-is-gay-hiv/ (http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2013/04/peruvian-father-accused-of-setting-son-on-fire-because-he-is-gay-hiv/)


Thanks for the "liberties"!


Jackass