Christianity down 13% in England since 2001

[Atheissimo]

The 2011 census of England and Wales came out a couple of days ago, with statistics showing that the number of people listing themselves as 'Christian' fell by 4 million, from 72% to 59%. In another 10 years that number could be below 50%, if the trend continues. In Wales 1/3 people claimed 'no religion' on the census.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20672090

You''ll notice on the map that the most Christian areas are in the far north on the moors and in the Scottish borders where a sturdy cross and unbreakable faith are all that protect you from the sprites, trolls, hobgoblins and barrow wights that stalk that frost-haunted place.

[largeham]

This is a well known phenomenon. The main religious churches/groups/denominations/etc are experiencing decreasing followers in most first world/industrialised countries. While groups like Hillsong and so on are gaining members, they don't make up for the drop in their more mainstream counterparts.

[DogmasDemise]

Yes, this is great news.

Islam has also lost popularity in roughly equal proportion in the UK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_the_United_Kingdom

Wait on second thought, that can't be correct. It has actually increased from 3.07% of total population in 2001 to 4.6% in 2010.

And for that matter Hinduism has also risen.

Sorry guys, you're not necessarily becoming more secular.

[Material Defender]

1.6% Gain does not counteract a 13% drop. Have you had 1st grade math?

[ThunderWulf]

Yeah, I'm honestly not surprised by this.  You look at a lot of modernized countries where we have such easy access to information and most of them have the mainstream faiths losing popularity, especially with the youth crowd.

[DogmasDemise]

1.6% Gain does not counteract a 13% drop. Have you had 1st grade math?

Nice strawman.

My point is, it's not all segments of society that are becoming less religious, just the Christians.

[nickiknack]

And here we go again, I smell a thread derailment...

[ironbite]

There's thread derail and then there's what Dogmas trying to do.

Ironbite-I'll go start up the Wall factory again.

[nickiknack]

I forgot what Dogma does isn't thread derailment, it's more like trolling and trying to bait suckers.
Remember folks

[DogmasDemise]

No, you're trying to derail the thread, I just gave you the facts and the truth is, it's not that you disagree with those statistics, it's just that you can't stand them being mentioned by me and in general you can't stand someone writing about Islam without using special kid gloves to do it.

So in truth, you're the trolls.

[ironbite]

I respectfully disagree with whatever you're saying behind the "You are ignoring this user" and point you once more to this post

1.6% Gain does not counteract a 13% drop. Have you had 1st grade math?

Ironbite-mostly because I'm assuming it has something to do with you not understanding math.

[DogmasDemise]

I responded to that, and the fact that you "ignored" my posts doesn't excuse you from repeating the same strawman.

By the way, this is a legitimate concern for all of those out there who might be involved in some kind of activism (people like Richard Dawkins or whatever). If they want a less religious society, they need figure out why it is that their message isn't getting through to every segment of the population. It's not enough to just look at the drop in Christianity and think "YAY! We're winning!"

[Blood God Nipso]

1.6% Gain does not counteract a 13% drop. Have you had 1st grade math?

Nice strawman.

My point is, it's not all segments of society that are becoming less religious, just the Christians.

For fuck's sake guys, if you're going to argue with him, deal with the argument he makes. Namely, this one. Which looks to be a perfectly valid one, given the facts.

[ironbite]

What facts?  I see no facts.  All I see is an Islamaphobe bitching about shit.

Ironbite-please, enlighten me how a 1.6% gain makes the country so much more Muslim that there's people being killed in the street for not praying to Mecca at the designated times.

[Auri-El]

2001
Christian: 71.7%
Muslim: 3%
Hindu 1.1%
Sikh 0.6%
Jewish 0.5%
Other: 0.6%
None: 14%
total religious: 76.9%

2011
Christian: 59%
Muslim: 5%
Hindu: 1.5%
Sikh: 0.8%
Jewish 0.5%
Other: 0.8%
None: 25%
Total religious: 67.6%

Your argument is invalid.