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Re: Violence Against Men in Popular Culture
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2012, 08:12:49 pm »
If you're going to just reword everything...

Hey, you could have specified the context in the first place, then we wouldn't be here right now, quibbling over the details.

Either way, the point is established, I would be cautious about using that example.

I'm not the OP. >_>

"Either way, the point is established, [that being that] I would be cautious about using that example."

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The paper focused on domestic violence, so I am looking for examples of female-on-male violence where the people involves are involved in a romantic relationship. (Or, in the case of Wedding Crashers mentioned above, get into a romantic relationship.) Stan and Dorothy from Golden Girls is a good example. Wedding Crashers is another one. I don't follow anime, but from another comment, I get the impression many of the examples given would not work because the people involved are not romantically involved.

To go over my examples:

Yusuke & Kayko don't admit it, but they're basically dating, & they finally admit what everyone already knew at the end of the series.
Ed & Winry also get together at the end of the series, in fact Ed makes the first move.
Inuyasha & Kagome, I believe, get together at the end.
Dragonball Z, Chi-Chi & Goku are married, Hell, that might've been when the abuse started, I don't remember Dragonball too well.
Naruto & Sakura are not in a relationship, though not for Naruto's lack of trying.
Bleach is the exception of the things I listed. Despite what shippers might tell you, no romance is being implied yet.

The common thread here is that they get together at the end.

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Re: Violence Against Men in Popular Culture
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2012, 10:20:20 am »
Also, if we really want to narrow it down to people who are in a committed relationship then most anime examples do not fit.

InuYasha still counts.  The title character went on to marry Ms. "Sit"-Happy at the end of the last episode.

Unless you believe that directly physically striking the person is what counts.  Personally, I consider repeated use of a submission spell under conditions that:

- Cause the collapse of a small bridge, with the victim on it;

- Drive the victim's face into the ground;

- Frequently humiliates the victim in front of all your mutual friends and acquaintances

to be a form of abuse.
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Re: Violence Against Men in Popular Culture
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2012, 01:52:54 pm »
Honestly, what bugged me is that she'd use it over the tiniest of irritations. One of the movies* makes her look even worse, because she gives him the impression that she's going to give him something for literally saving her ass from Hell, when what she's really doing is putting him under another one of those spells. He didn't even do anything! And what's she do when he complains? "Sit!"

*=I know, I know, this is a case of Doomed By Canon. Still.

All the same, I still don't entirely get the argument. Is it "domestic abuse against men is seen as funny in popular media"?

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Re: Violence Against Men in Popular Culture
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2012, 03:11:02 pm »
All the same, I still don't entirely get the argument. Is it "domestic abuse against men is seen as funny in popular media"?

I would imagine that it's "domestic violence and emotional abuse against men is seen as acceptable in popular culture". Which it is.
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Re: Violence Against Men in Popular Culture
« Reply #34 on: February 17, 2012, 04:02:11 pm »
i also say go for the love hina example. truly one of the most abhorrent examples of domestic abuse ever put to animation.

also a pair of rumiko takahashi examples (she may be a good mangaka, but she seems to revel in the abuse of men by women.)

Uresei Yatsura- Alien princess lum, who possesses superhuman physical abilities, constantly abuses her declared "beloved" ataru with little provication, even going so far as electicuting him with high voltage electricity.

and an  example damn near if not more odious than love hina.
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Re: Violence Against Men in Popular Culture
« Reply #35 on: February 17, 2012, 09:06:22 pm »
In terms of anime, you could also look at MM! although that might not be an example as the guy getting beat on is a masochist and is begging for more the whole time, still something to look into.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/LightNovel/MM?from=Main.MM

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Re: Violence Against Men in Popular Culture
« Reply #36 on: February 17, 2012, 10:44:31 pm »
Also, if we really want to narrow it down to people who are in a committed relationship then most anime examples do not fit.

InuYasha still counts.  The title character went on to marry Ms. "Sit"-Happy at the end of the last episode.
er... I don't get what you're trying to say here. I was only saying it because it was said that they had to be living together somehow for it to be DV.

Thus, my Stan and Dorothy fits according to Erictheblue.

There's also King of Queens for verbal/physical. Roseanne for verbal/physical...
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