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The Lounge / Re: The Funny/Stupid Pics Thread
« Last post by dpareja on Today at 03:34:09 pm »
Politics and Government / Re: Austria Seeks End to Internet Anonymity
« Last post by ironbite on Today at 01:21:01 pm »
Would love to see them try and enforce this on any other place other then Austria.

Yeah, this is pretty worrisome. Just gonna quote the SCOTUS decision in McIntyre v. Ohio Elections Commission:

(...) protections for anonymous speech are vital to democratic discourse. Allowing dissenters to shield their identities frees them to express critical minority views... Anonymity is a shield from the tyranny of the majority. ... It thus exemplifies the purpose behind the Bill of Rights and of the First Amendment in particular: to protect unpopular individuals from retaliation... at the hand of an intolerant society.
Border Patrol also claims these guys are stealing materials.

Ironbite-so really only ICE is ok with Trump's SS.

Well when you consider that ICE may well be engaging in literal slavery...

So... These guys are wandering around near the southern border of USA, wear badges that have been made to look like police badges and detain people at gunpoint. And since they aren't authorities and merely pretend to be, that's called kidnapping in the civilized world. In USA though it appears that the only ones who have an issue with it are Paypal and GoFundMe who have now shut down their donations for violating site rules.

Known as the United Constitutional Patriots (UCP), the militia has been patrolling a remote stretch of the New Mexico desert near the Mexico border for months with heavily armed members reportedly detaining dozens of migrants a day.

The group has used the thousands of dollars donated online to supply food, gasoline, propane, and a portable toilet at a camp in Sunland, New Mexico, but by Friday members of the militia learned they would no longer be able to use PayPal or GoFundMe to raise money.

"They killed us," Mark Cheney, who described himself as commander of United Constitutional Patriots, told BuzzFeed News in a phone interview. "I have to find some other way for people to donate."

Peter Simonson, executive director for the ACLU of New Mexico, said citizen arrests can only be made in the case of a felony. Illegal entry into the US is a misdemeanor, and not reason enough for a person to carry out a citizen's arrest.

Simonson said he grew concerned about the militia impersonating law enforcement officers after watching videos posted by the group.

"That's one crime that is a federal felony," Simonson told BuzzFeed News. "I also suspect the militias could be guilty of false imprisonment and maybe even kidnapping, and that's just the tip of the iceberg."

...But apparently the border patrol and police are fine with working with these criminals?
The Lounge / Re: The Funny/Stupid Pics Thread
« Last post by Chaos Undivided on April 20, 2019, 07:10:20 pm »
Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by ironbite on April 20, 2019, 06:23:17 pm »
I don't know why they bend over backwards to protect this asshole so much.

He knows, or at least has been told, where the skeletons are.  And the GOP has a lot of bad shit that'll probably cause anyone who still supports them run screaming into the hills.

Ironbite-it's got to be so bad that Turtle et al do not want getting out.
Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by dpareja on April 20, 2019, 06:14:32 pm »
Remember, when Sessions recused himself with regard to the Mueller probe, Trump said he no longer had an Attorney General.

He's convinced that the Department of Justice exists to protect him. Anyone who wants to keep their job in this administration knows they have to toady up to Trump, and anyone who doesn't--even if it means following flagrantly illegal orders for which they would be personally responsible, even if they'd already done any number of horrific things at his command, such as Kirstjen Nielsen--gets fired.

It's a matter of self-preservation.
Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by Chaos Undivided on April 20, 2019, 05:22:35 pm »
I'm not entirely sure myself. There are a lot of people who are hardcore Trump devotees (or at least act like it) for one reason or another, but unless he massively restructured the Justice Department and I wasn't aware of it, I don't get why they seem to be going all in to defend him.
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