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gas leak(?) at furry convention
« on: December 08, 2014, 01:41:59 am »
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-19-hospitalized-thousands-evacuated-in-gas-leak-at-rosemont-hotel-20141207-story.html

Well, assuming this turns out to be intentional this is pretty bad.
(Apologies if I fucked everything up here)
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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2014, 02:30:44 am »
Even if it was intentional the next question is whether it was done in an attempt to really harm the convention goers or simply to put an end to the convention. (And I suppose a false flag attack is also possible.)

I don't know enough about gasses or that location to know how dangerous this could have been if the gas hadn't been noticed sooner but I am glad there weren't any deaths, even the evacuation of a building can be dangerous as people have died in stampedes when trying to exit.

But seriously, was this some internet troll who wanted to take his "fursecution" to the next level? Some furry who wanted attention? Random lunatic? A lot of people rage over furries (Oh no, someone is doing a thing I don't like? This is literally worse than Hitlersatan.) but actually trying to kill people is a teeny tiny bit more extreme than bitching about them on a forum.
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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2014, 04:19:48 am »
I certainly hope we can get more details about the motive behind the gas leak. Whoever did it should serve jail time at the very least.

I just hope the poor people who were hospitalized have their insurance.
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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2014, 01:18:13 pm »
Hey, could the mods move this to society?

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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2014, 01:59:45 pm »
Hey, could the mods move this to society?

Looks like your wish was granted.

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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2014, 02:23:00 pm »
> gas leak(?) at furry convention

Thanks, lizard. Thanks for making me snort water out of my nose. It sounds pretty serious, but I still can't get over that thread title.
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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2014, 02:51:31 pm »
I think someone did it fur the fun of it.
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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2014, 03:14:12 pm »
I think someone did it fur the fun of it.
That is possible but when 19 people end up in hospital (and people could have died) just because you did something "for the lulz" it is time to rethink your choices.

Purely out of curiousity, do you guys think that the sentence should be worse if

a) This was a hate crime done by someone who really, REALLY hates furries or
b) This was done just for the lulz by someone who didn't aim to kill people but just to close the convention and troll furries?

Because commonly the punishment is greater for hate crimes, but if someone does something like this for FUN doesn't that make it clear that person is a danger to everyone around them?

(Note that this is just speculation on the subject and I have no idea on what the actual motive was this time.)
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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2014, 03:33:18 pm »
a) This was a hate crime done by someone who really, REALLY hates furries or
b) This was done just for the lulz by someone who didn't aim to kill people but just to close the convention and troll furries?

Because commonly the punishment is greater for hate crimes, but if someone does something like this for FUN doesn't that make it clear that person is a danger to everyone around them?

(Note that this is just speculation on the subject and I have no idea on what the actual motive was this time.)

It's conditional on a few other factors, but I would say the punishment should be harsher if it was a hate crime* rather than "trolling".

Reason: Someone who actively hates group X and wants them dead is an active danger against group-X-ers in any situation. Keeping them behind bars were they cannot try to kill people again is probably the only way to stop them.

Someone who thinks it's a fun joke to leak chlorine gas in a convention is an idiot, but has some hope of redemption. Presumably if shocked sufficiently harshly they can realise they were being an idiot, they should recalibrate their idea of "joke", and then go on and live their lives without recklessly endangering other people.

Like I said, conditional on other factors. Maybe the idiot is so much of an idiot they don't take this incident as a wake-up call. Maybe the furryphobe can learn their lesson and stop trying to kill people. But I find those to be less likely scenarios.


*not sure if the legal definition of hate crime fits crimes out of hatred of any group or only some specific ones. Here I meaning specifically a crime motivated by hatred of furries.
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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2014, 07:01:26 pm »
I think someone did it fur the fun of it.
That wasn't a particularly funny or clever pun.
If you're going to make insensitive jokes try to make them funny. 
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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2014, 07:16:53 pm »
You're not the first to get pissed at Viking for being an insensitive old man and you won't be the last.

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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2014, 07:40:13 pm »
Ironbite-my advice is to pull down your pants and slide on the ice.

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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2014, 07:44:48 pm »
BoT:
Why do people feel the need to harass others based on there interests anyway?
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Re: gas leak(?) at furry convention
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2014, 07:56:52 pm »
BoT:
Why do people feel the need to harass others based on there interests anyway?

Because some people are judgmental assholes.